Finally ended a nasty 6 game skid
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03-13-2015, 05:59 PM #6511
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03-13-2015, 06:02 PM #6512
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03-13-2015, 06:51 PM #6513
My thoughts exactly after playing him.. initially. If your solo lanes do well he's perfectly fine. He has a ton of potential, but I don't see it working out too well in soloq games (esp. lower elo) where you can't leave your adc w.o them dying (or crying), I can see him being awesome in competitive play though.
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03-13-2015, 09:51 PM #6514
I think he is going to be strong in both, particularly in a bot lane pre-made and at higher ELO. Already had some Bards roaming with the enemy jungler and botlane, putting that portal from wraiths to mid and tower diving me. Not to mention he has some broken aspects to his ulti like the fact it completely resets Baron. It was 1/4 from death, enemy bard ultis it and it resets back to full HP again causing us to lose baron and the team fight. Works on dragon too. He gives immense objective control with just that ultimate alone.
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03-13-2015, 10:30 PM #6515
Yeah, I just yolo'd it and played him in a soloq, it was Bard Ez vs Jinx Leona (which I figured would be rough). I landed 2 really good stuns @ lvl 2 when Leona initiated and they got chunked super hard which relieved a lot of pressure for us. His ult is insane though, I mainly used it to get picks, or split a team fight in half, last fight was a 2v5 followed by the other 3. I've heard it resets Baron/Drag, but I ulted drag/the jungler once and drag came out with the same health.
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03-13-2015, 11:22 PM #6516
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03-14-2015, 06:21 AM #6517
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03-14-2015, 06:23 AM #6518
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03-14-2015, 07:47 AM #6519
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03-14-2015, 09:26 AM #6520
TSM vs YFW g2 @ 12:30. best out-play of the tournament. holy smokes
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edit: this entire game 2 is why i don't get why people say wildturtle isn't top3 adc's in NA. He's a beast when he needs to be. Always. s3 worlds, every playoff, big tournaments. alwaysLast edited by bartosh; 03-14-2015 at 09:45 AM.
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03-14-2015, 10:37 AM #6521
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03-14-2015, 11:17 AM #6522
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03-14-2015, 12:33 PM #6523
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03-14-2015, 12:58 PM #6524
Fukin lol at GE Tigers struggling against the last place LPL team using subs. What is this tournament, full of surprises.
He was falling off hard at the end of S4 and seemed to only play well on Tristana. But he's getting a lot better now.
Edit. GE on verge of losing BO3, holy ch*t. Biggest upset of all time.Last edited by ho_124; 03-14-2015 at 01:40 PM.
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03-14-2015, 01:49 PM #6525
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03-14-2015, 01:52 PM #6526
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03-14-2015, 01:55 PM #6527
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03-14-2015, 02:02 PM #6528
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03-14-2015, 02:06 PM #6529
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03-14-2015, 02:30 PM #6530
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03-14-2015, 02:44 PM #6531
It's pretty simple really. Sneaky has been on the best NA team the previous 2 years, and is ALWAYS constant. You pretty much never see sneaky make a major mistake or do poorly. Then there is the god himself double lift. Now there is Piglett. Piglet is probably the #1 ADC NA. But lack of communication with xspecial, plus xspecial going trash mode, and the team just under performing in general makes it seem like he isn't as good. TBH he could probably replace a handful of LCS top and mid laners.
Wildturtle is fuking amazing, don't get me wrong. But he isn't as consistent, he had a rough time switching ADCs with the meta after Cait/Draven went out of flavour. He has unreal game knowledge though, played with him a few times and it is easy to tell his knowledge alone surpasses most of NA LCS.
I know I've said this a few times recently but check out this coach's youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/lastshadow9/videos
Dude may look like a *******, but he lived in korea for the past 4 years in Korean team houses. Was pro in other games. Has coached two EU LCS teams and is now Gravity's coach. One of the EU players liked the coach so much that he tried to quit his and come to NA to follow him but the players contract couldn't be broken so easily.
Yeah, it's kind of given though. Koreans take the game way more seriously, and take it more as a living. I.e. if they go pro or become big then they can delay their army conscription.
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03-14-2015, 03:17 PM #6532
Sneaky had a 2-3 month spree where he performed as by far the best ADC in NA. he's fallen off since then just like the rest of C9. they've been slowly improving but i don't think any of them are top players in their position anymore. balls once was the best top NA. He's getting tossed left and right recently. meteos had one great game last week. hai never came back to form since his collapsed lung sadly. lemon has shown he isn't towards the top of supports imo.
agreed on dlift. although he goes yolo too often (those Valkyries against their TSM game were just stupid iirc). He also benefits from the best support in NA (turtle also has that advantage).
Piglett is an ******** addict, who got kicked from his team for underperforming for ages. He just grinded games away all day/night and apparently refused to listen to his coaches while his skill deteriorated. I'm saying this knowing that he once was the best ADC in the world, let alone korea. I've watched 10 or so hours of his stream, alongside of all his LCS games. Although there is plenty of miscommunication with his team, Piglett is nowhere near where he once was. He can't even cs properly anymore from watching his stream
current NA lcs adc rankings imo
Doublelift
Wildturtle
Sneaky
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03-14-2015, 03:25 PM #6533
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03-14-2015, 03:51 PM #6534
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03-14-2015, 04:14 PM #6535
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03-14-2015, 06:22 PM #6536
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03-14-2015, 07:45 PM #6537
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03-14-2015, 07:47 PM #6538
Holy moly was this game a struggle http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegen...38865/44312127
Malph was down 2 kills in lane, and their Naut sat bot which gave them the lane, and snowballed them into mid-game. Malz is annoying as hell, puts his dot on anyone and they got chunked.
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03-14-2015, 08:01 PM #6539
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03-14-2015, 08:52 PM #6540
Sneaky hasn't fallen off much. As I said he is very consistent. In this split he had what, maybe 2 bad games? C9 as a whole is lacking hard, sneaky seems to be the only player on the team that is still what they use to be. Also need to mention a big part that holds him back is lemonnation being reall lackluster this split.
I agree though, wildturtle is easily a top ADC in NA. I was just explaining why people wouldn't consider him in the top 3. Wild turtle would be my #1 pick every time.
I don't follow all the scandals and sht that happen to these pro players, but piglets play on TL is clearly hindered by the team. There was a vid on team liquid where the coach was telling IWD to play a certain way with piglet and IWD refused to the coach. Piglets not a saint either with his urgot and vayne backlash. Regardless it is clear that the team doesn't like playing with piglet, and piglet doesn't enjoy playing with them. It even has shown over years that it doesn't matter what ADC is on TL. Look at Cop, fuking sucked on Curse, now on Gravity and performs wayyyy better. The team itself is just meh. I know this isn't sports, but you see this all the time in it. A player going to a team, not being what they expected, then not to long after getting picked up on another team and just going nuts. It's just my speculation, but I can see this happening with piglet.
CS in solo queue is a joke, it is all relative. It's not like the LCS where they play insanely safe and farm like cray or play 2v1s. If you look at his lolking anytime he plays something that isn't supp or jungle he is constantly way ahead of his opponent cs.
You can look at wildturtl's recent games and see similar numbers for cs. Some games will have 140cs, other games will have 300.
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