There is always an agenda.
The numbers are far too high regardless but they typically don't distinguish between a combat veteran and a veteran. It doesn't make one any worse than the other though. I'm willing to bet the majority had issues prior to their military service, they do what they can to keep those people out but it's not that easy unless they have a documented history of mental illness.
I knew 5 people that I worked with on a daily basis kill themselves on active duty. Not one had a combat deployment. Countless others attempted suicide while on active duty(combat and non combat experience). My buddy just called me the other day to tell me the wife of our good friend shot herself (dual military) she had been out for 2 years. Gorgeous girl no reason to kill herself but evidently she had some past family issues, I guarantee she is one of those statistics.
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03-29-2014, 06:35 PM #35
the suicidal stuff? nah hes never had FB or any social media. he has a smaller group of friends that he just normally talks to. im no psychological expert or anything but just from observation it seems like hes just having a rough time transitioning from being in the army for a while to getting a normal job, but I think he'll be alright
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03-29-2014, 06:42 PM #39
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My grandpa was in the Vietnam war and he never recovered, He died about 8 years ago sleeping in a bush. He drank everyday until he passed out, Couldnt live a normal life. The stories i heard from him were heartbreaking.
Whenever you see a homeless guy on the street with a sign that says "Vietnam Vet", Give him a dollar because that guy has been through hell and back 10x over.I like the tuna here.
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03-29-2014, 07:09 PM #46
I had a patient who had PTSD from loading nuclear weapons in the 60's. He never saw combat. None of his armed bombs were used. But he knew the intensity of what he was doing. Had their been a nuclear war, the world would have died in a nuclear winter and he would be one of the few people that actually did it. Physically, hands on did it. That fuqqed him up.
A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.
Muhammad Ali
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03-29-2014, 07:12 PM #47
1-800-273-8255 - Veterans Crisis Line
This is an epidemic--and there is help.
http://veteranscrisisline.net/
If you need help, call that number or visit the site to text or chat online!ʙ ᴜ ᴄ ᴋ ᴇ ʏ ᴇ ✭ ɴ ᴀ ᴛ ɪ ᴏ ɴ
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03-29-2014, 08:23 PM #56anonymousGuest
What happens over there thats so bad? Serious question, not trying to be offensive, I just wanna legitimately know what makes these guys wanna kill themselves? I can't help but think a lot are guys who had nothing else in life going for them so they joined the military and once that was over they kind of lost their meaning in life, though I'm sure there are other cases as well.
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03-29-2014, 08:29 PM #57
Also interested in this. I'm sure it has to deal with the constant threat of death. Watching their friends die, hearing about others dead/wounded.
Think what it would feel like to come home and know that you are permanently fuked in the head and some of your best friends are dead and maimed and it was all for nothing.
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03-29-2014, 08:36 PM #59
Grandpa was 82nd airborne here in the states. PTSD big time
Other grandpa was tail gunner in air force. No PTSD that I noticed.
Uncle was marine sniper, he won't even eat meat any more. Scared for life got so many DUIs he is banned from driving for life. PTSD up the azz. Survived in enemy territory for over a month. Just him n his spotter eating raw rats. His spotter died he made it. Think that has a lot to do with it.
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03-29-2014, 08:38 PM #60
23 Million Veterans with 1824 dead
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313M americans with approx. 37,560 suicides a year
12609:1 v. 8333:1
If you think the veterans are having a plight, check out the average american.
This isn't to make light of veteran suicides, its just to put into perspective.
And of course, if you look at people deployed into dangerous zones, etc. I am sure it will yield some interesting results.Reps to LEO and military brahs on sight.
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