Are carbs bad for you?

[zennyDMT]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJIJ0gyCoRY. This doctor says too many carbs are bad for you and we should all have 50-60g of carbs per day and the rest should be all fat and some protein? What do you guys think?

[AlwaysTryin]

No.

[Ichooseyou]

That amount would make you feel lethargic all day

[USAPatriotsBrah]

Well rat poison is a carb sooo....



Not srs, protein and fats are also carbs, dr dumbazz is wrong

[ELLSKIES]

protein and fats are also carbs, dr dumbazz is wrong

Huh?

[WonderPug]

Relatively high carbohydrate intake is contraindicated with certain disorders, especially those associated with dysregulated glucose metabolism.

For those so afflicted, a low carbohydrate diet, particularly a properly formulated ketogenic diet, can have therapeutic value.

For everyone else, it's largely a function of personal preference.

[BazingaO]

Everything in excess is bad for you.

But consumption of carbs, in a control manner, is not harmful. As WonderPug it's just a personnal preference.

Some will be tired, lethargic while on a low carb diet, other won't.

Just make what's convenient for you and your lifestyle.

[FitnessSage]

I haven't watched this guys video but I've read his book. I think he is saying that quality of grains has decreased over the last years and we shouldn't consume them, but he's not against vegetables etc. But I guess he generally is against carbs. What he says might work for some people, it depends on your body. Some people feel good when eating mostly fats, some with mostly carbs etc, you have to discover which macro set makes your body function most effectively. But it's not really that you shouldn't eat carbs at all or that you should minimize them.

[racedoc]

Relatively high carbohydrate intake is contraindicated with certain disorders, especially those associated with dysregulated glucose metabolism.

For those so afflicted, a low carbohydrate diet, particularly a properly formulated ketogenic diet, can have therapeutic value.

For everyone else, it's largely a function of personal preference.

^^ This, exactly. Plus that "empowered neurologist" physician in the video link is selling a book ostensibly on how horrible grain is, so his views should be taken in that light.

[naturalguy]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJIJ0gyCoRY. This doctor says too many carbs are bad for you and we should all have 50-60g of carbs per day and the rest should be all fat and some protein? What do you guys think?

He is talking about grains in particular.

Most people will not perform optimally on that low of a carb intake, keep in mind we are on a bodybuilding forum. There is no need to arbitrarily cut out an entire macro group.

[LordWolF]

Does he even lift? buahahahahaahahahahaa

[SuffolkPunch]

Not everyone is inslulin resistance. Some of us were and have overcome it by exercising, becoming leaner and possibly by becoming keto adapted. Once your headache is gone, you can stop taking the asprin however.

grainz 4 gainz

[WonderPug]

Not everyone is inslulin resistance. Some of us were and have overcome it by exercising, becoming leaner and possibly by becoming keto adapted. Once your headache is gone, you can stop taking the asprin however.

Depending on the underlying pathology, remission of symptoms may not indicate a cure and thus, for some, dietary restrictions must be maintained for remission to continue.

For example, this is often noted in T2DM that responds favorably to a properly formulated ketogenic diet.

[SuffolkPunch]

Depending on the underlying pathology, remission of symptoms may not indicate a cure and thus, for some, dietary restrictions must be maintained for remission to continue.

For example, this is often noted in T2DM that responds favorably to a properly formulated ketogenic diet.

So I guess you'd need to monitor blood sugar to see where you were really at..?

Speaking for myself, my own problems with reactive hypoglycemia were relatively minor and don't resurface except in unusual circumstances: e.g. being in an excessive calorie defecit - and then drinking alcohol on an empty stomach - pretty dumb I know. But I am pretty happy with a moderate carb intake now. But it would be interesting to know if I could improve matters further with another spell of Keto.

[WonderPug]

So I guess you'd need to monitor blood sugar to see where you were really at..?

Basically one would have to monitor for relapse.

Speaking for myself, my own problems with reactive hypoglycemia were relatively minor and don't resurface except in unusual circumstances: e.g. being in an excessive calorie defecit - and then drinking alcohol on an empty stomach - pretty dumb I know. But I am pretty happy with a moderate carb intake now. But it would be interesting to know if I could improve matters further with another spell of Keto.

The earlier the intervention, the more likely complete remission without the need for any specialized diet interventions.

That said, it would be interesting to see if you can achieve a better level of "recovery" with a prolonged trial of a ketogenic diet.

[VmissileX]

Relatively high carbohydrate intake is contraindicated with certain disorders, especially those associated with dysregulated glucose metabolism.

For those so afflicted, a low carbohydrate diet, particularly a properly formulated ketogenic diet, can have therapeutic value.

For everyone else, it's largely a function of personal preference.

^^^Exactly this


To add though, some people enjoy/preferhigh amounts of carbs in their diet due to physical activity (marathon runners) since it is the cheapest food source of energy tbf.


Although, it has been discussed and reviewed..carbs are non-essential...


I perform better on a lower cho intake (less lethargic)

[naturalguy]

Although, it has been discussed and reviewed..carbs are non-essential...

Lifting weights and having a lot of muscle and low bodyfat are not essential either. This is a bodybuilding forum and people here are usually talking about what is optimal, not essential. This is not a survival forum lol

[VmissileX]

Lifting weights and having a lot of muscle and low bodyfat are not essential either. This is a bodybuilding forum and people here are usually talking about what is optimal, not essential. This is not a survival forum lol

Non-essential =/= not necessary.

this is where grammar gets annoying...

[WonderPug]

Lifting weights and having a lot of muscle and low bodyfat are not essential either. This is a bodybuilding forum and people here are usually talking about what is optimal, not essential. This is not a survival forum lol

Interesting perspective.

Can you please list all the supplements that professional bodybuilders take, as many of those must be "optimal" in the bodybuilding world.

[shikoku]

no carbs no energy OP

[WonderPug]

no carbs no energy OP

FYI: Many people report increased energy when habitually consuming a properly formulated ketogenic diet, while also reported acute lethargy when consuming more than trace amounts of carbohydrates.

[LordWolF]

wh00t wrong post

[kenonator]

^^^Exactly this


To add though, some people enjoy/preferhigh amounts of carbs in their diet due to physical activity (marathon runners) since it is the cheapest food source of energy tbf.


Although, it has been discussed and reviewed..carbs are non-essential...


I perform better on a lower cho intake (less lethargic)

There are marathon and ultramarathon runners who eat purely keto.

[VmissileX]

There are marathon and ultramarathon runners who eat purely keto.

Sure.


I can imagine how expensive their grocery bill is tho...


carbs are cheap.


but then gain...they probably make 2000x more than me so i can see them able to justify the costs.

[PBateman2]

The doctor is dumb and misinformed.

I love carbs and carbs love me.

[HealingHands8]

Lifting weights and having a lot of muscle and low bodyfat are not essential either. This is a bodybuilding forum and people here are usually talking about what is optimal, not essential. This is not a survival forum lol

Both of those are essential for bodybuilding. Carbs still aren't. You get the picture.

[ironwill2008]

Ah, yes; dat ol' debbil, Glycemic Index. So totally relevant.

[DAaaMan64]

Relatively high carbohydrate intake is contraindicated with certain disorders, especially those associated with dysregulated glucose metabolism.

This sounds like a category of disorders. Can you provide some examples, so that I may read more?

[WonderPug]

Both of those are essential for bodybuilding. Carbs still aren't. You get the picture.

He never seems to learn, despite numerious posters trying to teach him at least the basics about nutrition.

[VmissileX]

Ah, yes; dat ol' debbil, Glycemic Index. So totally relevant.

If you add olive oil or any fats to anything on carbs the gi is mirculously low as fuk:
http://www.gnolls.org/1029/fat-and-g...carbohydrates/