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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Anabolic Innovations 3Z is another one I've used that really really knocked me out. Ever tried it?
    3Z never did much for me. HGHPro of theirs was pretty good for me personally iirc.

    I'm always looking for good sleep aids so I'll give this a go.
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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Better sleep can lead to more optimal GH release which can lead to more optimal recovery which can lead to more optimal gains.
    That's what you want to believe.
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    Originally Posted by Madevilz View Post
    That's what you want to believe.
    I didn't say that it's guaranteed but better sleep could help in those departments.

    Are you really going to argue that recovery is not better if one gets better and deeper sleep? Seriously? What is there to believe or not believe here?
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    Chlorophytum Borivilanium (safed Musli) and Mucuna pruriens (velvet bean) Standarized to L-Dopa have showed to give better Sleep quality in men and women

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22778558


    Controlled Labs Blue GrowtH do contain those ingredients and other to help with good sleep Like Sloop Mentioned
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    What exactly in the formula is what makes you "grow"? Yeah, sleep is an important "health factor" and Ok we could say "growth factor", for someone with sleep problems it may be useful undoubtedly, but otherwise it would be a waste. I certainly, would not buy it. I have no problems with sleep and "growth" ...
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    Originally Posted by BULLED View Post
    What exactly in the formula is what makes you "grow"? Yeah, sleep is an important "health factor" and Ok we could say "growth factor", for someone with sleep problems it would be useful undoubtedly, but otherwise it would be a waste.
    It's definitely an individual cost-benefit decision whether this product will be worth it to you.

    That being said, L-Dopa has a wide array of benefits. Interested to see the price point on this.
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    That amount and extract of l-dopa should sit well with me. Might give it a shot. I used a product that had 800mg of 99% l- dopa and I had headaches for days.
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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    I didn't say that it's guaranteed but better sleep could help in those departments.

    Are you really going to argue that recovery is not better if one gets better and deeper sleep? Seriously? What is there to believe or not believe here?
    Will it improve sleep's quality that much to the point that it will actually affect recovery?
    I really doubt it. If you really want better sleep, im pretty sure there is some cheap ass sleepd aid supp out there that works. Natty GH and test supplements are such ripoffs, it'll give you the benefits you want to believe.
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    I would most likely dose this in the morning on an empty stomach.


    I've better results dosing L-Dopa in the morning vs dosing at night. For sleep I would rather just dose GABA + Valerian Root.
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    Originally Posted by Madevilz View Post
    Will it improve sleep's quality that much to the point that it will actually affect recovery?
    I really doubt it. If you really want better sleep, im pretty sure there is some cheap ass sleepd aid supp out there that works. Natty GH and test supplements are such ripoffs, it'll give you the benefits you want to believe.
    Here's the thing, I was not endorsing nor damning the product. Someone commented about how does the product help with GH if all it seemingly does is to promote deep sleep.

    So, maybe just take a deep breath and a step back there eh?
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    Hmm. Interesting.



    Should note that is per pill not per serving
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    Originally Posted by kissdadookie View Post
    Here's the thing, I was not endorsing nor damning the product. Someone commented about how does the product help with GH if all it seemingly does is to promote deep sleep.

    So, maybe just take a deep breath and a step back there eh?
    no deep breath needed brah, I was simply commenting on your comment about someone else's comment.
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    Originally Posted by Madevilz View Post
    no deep breath needed brah, I was simply commenting on your comment about someone else's comment.
    Lulz. Implying that I was making product claims here, alas, it's all good :P
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    Originally Posted by Madevilz View Post
    let's hug
    That's not a roll of dimes in dookie's pocket..
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    Originally Posted by sloop View Post
    That's not a roll of dimes in dookie's pocket..
    will u hug me then?
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    Originally Posted by Madevilz View Post
    let's hug
    Already did brah. Surprised you didn't notice :P
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    Looks solid. Wish the theanine dose was higher, but other than that I like it a lot. Products such as these aren't my first choice, but they certainly do help overall sleep and well-being in my experience.
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    Not usually huge on products like this, but as someone who uses ZMA consistently at say 20 bucks a month, i'd gladly spend 10 bucks more to pick this up. But, that's because i have a terrible sleep schedule and anything that can give me deeper sleep when i'm just going to bed at 4-5am... it's well worth the money. Better sleep for me does pay dividends in my daily energy, recovery, and training.
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    That "other ingredient" prop blend. Smh...
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    That "other ingredient" prop blend. Smh...
    SNS always trying to fool the consumer with their prop blends.
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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    Not usually huge on products like this, but as someone who uses ZMA consistently at say 20 bucks a month, i'd gladly spend 10 bucks more to pick this up. But, that's because i have a terrible sleep schedule and anything that can give me deeper sleep when i'm just going to bed at 4-5am... it's well worth the money. Better sleep for me does pay dividends in my daily energy, recovery, and training.
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    I've ran a number of sleep/gh products, my fav is animal pm.

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    Anabolic Innovations 3Z is another one I've used that really really knocked me out. Ever tried it?
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