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    Exclamation If a PLANE is on a TREADMILL will it TAKE OFF? (Large plane, large treadmill) [Pics]

    If a large plane, like a 747, is on a larger treadmill that fits it on the tracks/belt, and the treadmill is off so it just spins as you force it back, will it be able to take off?


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    It will not take off if the plane has no forward movement.

    inb4 Mythbusters prooved it.
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    Yes, because no power is going to the wheels. The jets are pushing off the surrounding air not the ground. It will take off like normal


    Edit let's me see it I can explain it for the potato brains on the misc

    The plane is powered by thrust from the jets/propellers that act on the AIR not the ground. The treadmill can be running at 100000000mph but the wheels will be freely spinning. The treadmill acts on the wheels but not on the plane. So if you increase thrust the plane will still began to move forward (then create LIFT) even if the treadmill increases speed proportionally. The tires will be moving faster as result but this won't effect the plane taking off (providing the treadmill is runway length)


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    yes, assuming the treadmill is the length of a runway. If not, the plane will just move forward until it runs out of treadmill, and then come off and crash or w/e.

    If you say no, and your conclusion is based on the fact that the plane will remain stationary, you are wrong. end of story. The plane will not remain stationary. The plane is not providing power through the wheels, but through the jet engines pushing the air. lol @ retards ITT acting like anyone that says yes is wrong.
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    It does take off.
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    No... it won't generate any lift, only the wheels would be moving.
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    no.
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    I personally think it would absolutely take off. I'm not physics brah though really. And LOL @ "if mythbusters said it wont, it wont!!!" like they are some sort of gods, did they literally try to take off a large plane on an even larger TREADMILL (BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN A TREADMILL THAT BIG IF YOU ASK ME) lol their science can easily be flawed they are goons on an entertainment fake tv show
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    No, how could a plane that's not moving take off?
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    seeing as how the jets make the forward movement, the airplane would just push off the treadmill and crash and burn. then op would be a monster responsible for killing everyone on board for a misc thread.
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    If the jets are causing enough thrust then yes. You can't just turn the "treadmill" on. They did something similar to this on aircraft carriers in WWII using b-24s
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    It will try to take off, fail to stabilize, crash.
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    Originally Posted by hlimw18 View Post
    No, how could a plane that's not moving take off?
    It would be moving though, exactly as fast as it needs to as if it were on a runway, wheels spin, treadmill spins, as fast as the wheels spin. matches it just like if you walk with force on a turned off treadmill to stretch or whatever
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    this thread is made and debated at least once a week on the misc

    the plane will not take off bc there is no air flow under the wings to lift it up...
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    at least one person in this thread, will genuinely think it could take off.

    this fact saddens me

    Originally Posted by mxer92 View Post
    Yes it could. Assuming the treadmill is moving fast enough, the airplane would have a enough air going over and under the wings to generate lift and would be able to take off.
    what the fuk are yuo even talking about.

    the treadmill isn't moving. its stationary. the belt is moving.

    what is this 'air' going over and under the wings you speak of? the plane's wheels are moving. not the plane.
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    The Malaysian's actually said they were gonna try this recently, haven't heard back from them yet though, so we'll see
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    only the wheels would move and it would generate no lift which is what actually allows the plane to fly doesnt matter how fast it goes, planes arent rockets
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    It would take off. The wheels are not producing the power.
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    Originally Posted by LaCosaNostra90 View Post
    It would take off. The wheels are not producing the power.
    Right? the thrust from the jet engines are.
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    you need to trim it to fly it will only spin the wheels, but where is wind factor
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    ONLY if the treadmill is runway length.
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    Originally Posted by NATTYPB View Post
    this thread is made and debated at least once a week on the misc

    the plane will not take off bc there is no air flow under the wings to lift it up...

    You are a fuking retard. The planes thrust will create forward movement regardless of the treadmill bellow it. That will on turn make lift (something half you ******* miscers don't understand)
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    planes don't actually need to be moving to fly. they just need to be on to get the engines running. if the plane was on the runway, its engines would be running but it wouldn't be moving, and that's enough to allow flight.
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    Originally Posted by TurkeyChili View Post
    Right? the thrust from the jet engines are.


    the plane would be stationary, nothing would happen

    Originally Posted by GerbilFarmer View Post
    You are a fuking retard. The planes thrust will create forward movement regardless of the treadmill bellow it. That will on turn make lift (something half you ******* miscers don't understand)
    how will it create any forward movement you fuking retard?
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    No. Planes generate life by air going over/under their wings. If it's on a treadmill the ground is moving in relation to the stationary plane and air, not vice versa (which is required for lift).
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    If the treadmill is long enough for the plane to reach takeoff speed then it will take off.

    How this question continues to come up is perplexing. Airplanes don't take off using their wheels. The wheels are free spinning via bearings. Hence why airplanes can land and take off on bodies of water even if there is a current. The thrust of the engines propels the plane by acting on the air, not the ground. Assuming we don't get into the fact that the bearings could potentially melt via friction of spinning at very high speeds, a treadmill would be incapable of stopping the plane from traveling down the runway and taking off.

    Here's a simplified analogy. If you were on a skateboard on a treadmill and holding a rope tied to the wall you wouldn't move no matter how fast the treadmill was going. Now if you use that rope to pull yourself forward you would move forward. Same concept. The air plane uses the air to move forward. There is no relation to the ground.
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