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    Originally Posted by hlimw18 View Post
    What do you expect? You're lifting for strength, not size/aesthetics. Why would you expect to look big and aesthetic when you don't lift for that? Works for some people if they have the genetics, but if you want to look good, you have to train differently. Like Kai said, do you want to be a weightlifter or a bodybuilder?
    ur argument is invalid. lifting for strength is the easiest and fastest way to get shredded. assuming u just dont go full on fat bulk mode


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    To be fair like 1/2 the kids who play highschool football can do that so it is not a huge indicator of shreddedness
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    Originally Posted by UberAlles View Post
    ur argument is invalid. lifting for strength is the easiest and fastest way to get shredded. assuming u just dont go full on fat bulk mode


    Did you miss the part where I said that certain people will look ripped from powerlifting because of their genetics, and that each person responds differently? Posting pictures of ripped olympic lifters only proves that you're not too bright.
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    Originally Posted by hlimw18 View Post
    Did you miss the part where I said that certain people will look ripped from powerlifting because of their genetics, and that each person responds differently? Posting pictures of ripped olympic lifters only proves that you're not too bright.
    lmao you're a retard

    pretty much every old school bodybuilder competed in powerlifting. ur honestly retarded if u think theres any difference between bbying and powerlifting

    the stronger u are the more jacked u are. thats a fact





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    Originally Posted by hlimw18 View Post
    Did you miss the part where I said that certain people will look ripped from powerlifting because of their genetics, and that each person responds differently? Posting pictures of ripped olympic lifters only proves that you're not too bright.
    Okay, so any evidence to the contrary is automatically invalid, because your point of view is correct independent of evidence?

    Posting olympic lifters who are on enough gear to fill a bathtub obviously isnt a fair point to make either if were being objective.

    The reality is that strength and size are inseperable when it comes to bodybuilding/powerlifting.

    You occassionally will run into someone with stupid deadlift leverages that doesnt look like they lift yet can put 500+ lbs, but their squat and bench are going to be more than garbage to make up for it.
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    1000 pounds.... damn this you brah?


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    Do this bro:
    Keep working on getting stronger on your big lifts: squats, deads, bench and OHP. Incorporate assistance work as well maybe 2-3 exercises per body part. Getting strong is the foundation for true mass if you're a natural. Just don't pig out and get fat.

    You will hardly ever see a guy who is seriously strong yet doesn't look like they lift. Only doing bodybuilding routines will stagnate your progress.
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    Originally Posted by TheCanDan View Post
    Idk how to post pics on mobile.



    Thx brahs, it just sucks being called scrawny by people when you've been lifting hard for 6 months and are making incredible strength gains. Will feel like a loser if i quit 5x5 before i hit 2/3/4 because i'm so close.



    I think i might though.
    Wtf brah. Of course you don't look like you lift after 6 months. 1000 total is very impressive for just 6 months of lifting, but if you really did that, you are just naturally strong and undortunately for you that doesn't directly equate to size and aesthetics.
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    Originally Posted by UberAlles View Post
    lmao you're a retard

    pretty much every old school bodybuilder competed in powerlifting. ur honestly retarded if u think theres any difference between bbying and powerlifting

    the stronger u are the more jacked u are. thats a fact





    Please post more pictures of people on tech and tell me about how it's their strength making them big.
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    braaah

    edit: lol icf 5x5, try jim wendlers 5/3/1 pal
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    maybe lift for size instead of strength? derp
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    are you me brah?

    similar stats
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    Originally Posted by LegosInMyEgos View Post
    Okay, so any evidence to the contrary is automatically invalid, because your point of view is correct independent of evidence?

    Posting olympic lifters who are on enough gear to fill a bathtub obviously isnt a fair point to make either if were being objective.

    The reality is that strength and size are inseperable when it comes to bodybuilding/powerlifting.

    You occassionally will run into someone with stupid deadlift leverages that doesnt look like they lift yet can put 500+ lbs, but their squat and bench are going to be more than garbage to make up for it.
    When did I EVER say that "any evidence to the contrary is automatically invalid" I didn't. I said that the evidence posted by UberAlles was invalid. I also never said that you can't get big/aesthetic from powerlifting. I've posted multiple times that each person has different genetics, and that for some, lifting for strength will get them big and that for some, bodybuilding lifts will get them big. I don't see why this is so hard for people to understand. OP is clearly not one of the people that gets big from lifting for strength, so he should lift for size if that's what he wants.
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    Originally Posted by TheCanDan View Post
    I honestly care more about strength that being shredded, but at least want it to look like i lift. Judging by the responses i might switch to PPL.


    Anybody have a good PPL? I def want one with DLs.
    switch to 5/3/1. Strength on the big 3 but with a good amount of hypertrophy
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    Originally Posted by StrongNameDM View Post
    I am doing the same thing as you. Training for strength and getting close to 1000lb total. Then i am going to transition to hypertrophy based routines. Here are two that i liked:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=150375983
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=149807833
    They dont have deadlifts but you can add them in but dont go too hard on them.

    Whats your arm size cold flexed btw? Thats a good indicator of if you look like you lift, if you are not just a curl bro.


    90% of the world? More like 90% of people that go to gym regularly.
    Arm is 14.5 cold flexed. Ill check out those routines.
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    I'm at 8 or 900, but I train in the 8-12 rep range, I'm fat mode right now but pretty sure I look like I lift
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    No idea how some people can train for purely size and always do reps in the 8-12 rep range.

    Boring as fuk.

    Then again I don't look like I lift either OP
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