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    Will dropping starchy carbs help break a plateau?

    I've been at the same weight for a month or so. I've played around with the calories but it seems I can't get rid of the lower belly fat. I've had great results carb cycling but I hit a wall. Im wondering if I should drop the white rice that I have on workout days. I have about 1 cup uncooked sticky white rice (the sushi kind). Has anyone gotten better results by dropping simple carbs?
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    5'10" 150lbs

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    Cutting...

    hm hm.

    How does removing the starchy carbs play into it? What makes it different than just reducing calories through regular carbs or maybe protein/fat if you've hit your minimums
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    Cutting starchy carbs to break a plateau? Define "played around with calories"? A plateau when it comes to fat loss(if it's a true plateau...meaning 2-3 weeks with absolutely no fat loss) is basically because your body has become efficient enough at the current caloric intake to where you are no longer creating a caloric deficit...be it from starchy carbs, protein, or whatever! You have two choices..simply reduce calories or increase cardio. You have to make the caloric deficit deeper. Depending on how high your calories currently are, you could cut the calories. If you're currently not eating much already, got ahead and keep the food and increase the cardio. Extend your current sessions, or add an additional session or two. Roll with that for a week and make outcome based decisions. If that doesn't work, cut a little more, or add a little more cardio. But as the above poster said..you're 5'10 and 150 pounds....why...are...you..cutting...?
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    ^^ nuff said.

    150 lbs at 5'10 and cutting...
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    Originally Posted by and1_balla52 View Post
    Cutting starchy carbs to break a plateau? Define "played around with calories"? A plateau when it comes to fat loss(if it's a true plateau...meaning 2-3 weeks with absolutely no fat loss) is basically because your body has become efficient enough at the current caloric intake to where you are no longer creating a caloric deficit...be it from starchy carbs, protein, or whatever! You have two choices..simply reduce calories or increase cardio. You have to make the caloric deficit deeper. Depending on how high your calories currently are, you could cut the calories. If you're currently not eating much already, got ahead and keep the food and increase the cardio. Extend your current sessions, or add an additional session or two. Roll with that for a week and make outcome based decisions. If that doesn't work, cut a little more, or add a little more cardio. But as the above poster said..you're 5'10 and 150 pounds....why...are...you..cutting...?
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    Ok ill cut the calories or throw in some cardio. Yes i'm 5'10 and 150 but i'm skinny-fat. I've bulked in the past only to get fatter. I've lost about 15 lbs and would like to get into single digit BF before I start lean bulking. My strength has also been steadily increasing.

    Also, I don' believe all carbs are the same. Ever since I dropped my post workout high carb shake to "replenish glycogen", I made great progress in fat loss, keeping calories the same as before. Either that or I have a high insulin sensitivity.
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    Im cutting close to 300 g carbs a day and have no problems dropping.
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    Originally Posted by Hardgainer2000 View Post
    Ok ill cut the calories or throw in some cardio. Yes i'm 5'10 and 150 but i'm skinny-fat. I've bulked in the past only to get fatter. I've lost about 15 lbs and would like to get into single digit BF before I start lean bulking. My strength has also been steadily increasing.

    Also, I don' believe all carbs are the same. Ever since I dropped my post workout high carb shake to "replenish glycogen", I made great progress in fat loss, keeping calories the same as before. Either that or I have a high insulin sensitivity.
    Lol at this selective advice taking.
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    Originally Posted by Chango99 View Post
    Lol at this selective advice taking.
    I suppose he got the answer he was seeking. Guess it was more of a validation thing and no much advice seeking.
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    Originally Posted by Hardgainer2000 View Post
    Ok ill cut the calories or throw in some cardio. Yes i'm 5'10 and 150 but i'm skinny-fat. I've bulked in the past only to get fatter. I've lost about 15 lbs and would like to get into single digit BF before I start lean bulking. My strength has also been steadily increasing.

    Also, I don' believe all carbs are the same. Ever since I dropped my post workout high carb shake to "replenish glycogen", I made great progress in fat loss, keeping calories the same as before. Either that or I have a high insulin sensitivity.
    It's because you don't really have any real muscle mass to begin with. I would go on a slow bulk and do a novice program like Starting Strength.
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    Originally Posted by Hardgainer2000 View Post
    Ok ill cut the calories or throw in some cardio. Yes i'm 5'10 and 150 but i'm skinny-fat. I've bulked in the past only to get fatter. I've lost about 15 lbs and would like to get into single digit BF before I start lean bulking. My strength has also been steadily increasing.

    Also, I don' believe all carbs are the same. Ever since I dropped my post workout high carb shake to "replenish glycogen", I made great progress in fat loss, keeping calories the same as before. Either that or I have a high insulin sensitivity.

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    If you bulk intelligently and not like a complete moron, you should be able to keep fat gains to a minimum. I would definitely be bulking if I were you. If you gain muscle, you're basically going to lose fat, in the long run anyways...I'm not saying they can happen at the same time because they cant, in most cases anyways. But lets say you were to add a few pounds of muscle, which is metabolically active tissue, your BMR will increase, therefor youd be burning more calories at rest, thus losing fat a little easier in the long run. Do yourself a favor and put on some size, you will recomp your body, and you'll probably like your body a lot more. The above picture is creepy...you want to look like that? You want to look like an Abercrombie and B^^^h model?
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    Originally Posted by and1_balla52 View Post
    If you bulk intelligently and not like a complete moron, you should be able to keep fat gains to a minimum. I would definitely be bulking if I were you. If you gain muscle, you're basically going to lose fat, in the long run anyways...I'm not saying they can happen at the same time because they cant, in most cases anyways. But lets say you were to add a few pounds of muscle, which is metabolically active tissue, your BMR will increase, therefor youd be burning more calories at rest, thus losing fat a little easier in the long run. Do yourself a favor and put on some size, you will recomp your body, and you'll probably like your body a lot more. The above picture is creepy...you want to look like that? You want to look like an Abercrombie and B^^^h model?
    SOME people CAN gain muscle and lose fat at the same time, and I think OP may be one of those people. Eat at a very slight caloric surplus (about 10% over TDEE) and lift hard as hell. I think you would be happy with the results.
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    You need to eat at a surplus... and lift hard... as adding more muscle to your frame will fill out the extra skin you speak of. Also.. when you play with carb intake, you also play with water intake, so just because the scale moves, it doesn't mean it's bodyfat loss.
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