I wanna cock slap every baby boomer than says "Kids have it so easy these days"

[Kodiak26]

I agree with the job, crap pay and lack of wife material these days. Not only was a good paying job much easier to get back then, but the cost of living was much much lower.

[Hesher]

Today's generation feels a sense of entitlement. That's why they suck. They expect to go get a history degree and make 100k as a museum tour guide. Meanwhile the generation before did what they could to pay the bills. Not to proud to do manual labor and pay the bills. Get a trade. Get a job. And quit phucking whining. Boo hoo. You aren't guaranteed anything in life.

Yup.

[AussieJuNior]

Bill Gates recently spoke about how bleak the future is for our generation.

He foresees massive unemployment and social unrest unless gov't makes major changes in how they deal with corporations.

The French model is not the way forward basically.

We need to go full on corporatist.

won't change because corps essentially run gov (srs)

[thatGuyyy]

So moron, I'm not a baby boomer. Tail end of Generation X.

The difference is I'm not a whiney bitch. I guess that's why over the past 10 years I've managed to increase my take home comp by 278%. That's an 11% CAGR. That also includes the fact that from 2007 onwards, I've consistently worked in places where they were laying off people left and right. I've survived 5-10 rounds of layoffs (you lose track after awhile), and I've watched people less whiney than be showed the door on plenty of occasions.

The point is this: people who were baby boomers came of age right as the economic boom of the 60s was ending. They then got to experience the stagflation of the 70s, gas shortages, etc. The mid 80s were good, and the early 90s were bad. The mid 90s were great until the dot com bust. The housing boom appeared great to people at the time, but really and truly fukked over just as many people as it benefitted.

If you can appreciate the actual timeline, you'd know that the baby boomers are basically at their prime earning years...and many of them lost a chitload on their houses, and had their retirement portfolios tank with the market -- the calm ones stayed in, but many locked in their losses by bailing out. Frankly, a lot of them aren't going to be able to retire for quite some time, and for this most recent downturn to occur at the worst possible time in their career trajectory sucks for them. And those are the ones who have jobs. Age discrimination is illegal and it's totally real. If you're in your 50 or 60s now and you're unemployed, you're fukked 8 ways from sunday.

Now contrast that with people my age - Gen X. The real estate boom happened at a crappy time for us, so we got the shaft there....but the return to normalcy in housing prices, and they are quite affordable now as long as you're not trying to live in an upscale area, will ultimately work out well, especially coupled with current interest rates that we can lock in for the next 30 years.

Gen Y? Well, they're positioned very well. Most weren't in a position to buy a house by the peak of the market, and so now they can enter at a more reasonable cost.

Kids getting out of college right now? Can't get a job, but it's REALLY early in their careers. Plenty of time to recover before the next economic bubble hits.

As for education, I don't bother keeping track of Canadian schools - no point. When you've attended a school that admits maybe 10% of applicants and you have a Master's from a program that is ranked #1 in its field in the US, let me know.

Don't really care to refute your points since it isn't worth the effort. But keep offering your narrow minded justifications, its mildly entertaining

[Hesher]

i agree with the job, crap pay and lack of wife material these days. Not only was a good paying job much easier to get back then, but the cost of living was much much lower.

Not for everything...









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[thatGuyyy]

negged for saying degree is new high school diploma. look up the statistics you uneducated kunt

ANY respectable white collar prefession requires atleast a bachelors. Statistics don't mean chit since they include all the baby boomers that got lucrative jobs without degrees. As time goes on the majority of people will have degrees or some form of post secondary education. Good luck finding any job above minimum wage with just a hs diploma you dumbphuck

[Hesher]

Don't really care to refute your points since it isn't worth the effort. But keep offering your narrow minded justifications, its mildly entertaining

You mean because you can't find any statistics to support your position, and you're just going to throw a pity party for yourself while the rest of us are out there getting it done.

BTW - if you want to blame anybody for the current economic situation, you could probably include mortgage brokers and realtors. The sheer amount of fraud that they have engaged in is absolutely stunning...and I'm talking about outright fraud, coaching borrowers on how to commit fraud, etc.

[B4DM0N]

not to mention every fukking job u apply to requires 10 year of experience and they expect that from u when you're 21 years old

[thatGuyyy]

You mean because you can't find any statistics to support your position, and you're just going to throw a pity party for yourself while the rest of us are out there getting it done.

BTW - if you want to blame anybody for the current economic situation, you could probably include mortgage brokers and realtors. The sheer amount of fraud that they have engaged in is absolutely stunning...and I'm talking about outright fraud, coaching borrowers on how to commit fraud, etc.

More like I come here to blow off steam, not to argue with pseudo-intelligent old phucks like yourself

[thatGuyyy]

not to mention every fukking job u apply to requires 10 year of experience and they expect that from u when you're 21 years old

lol this is such a piss-off

brb every entry level position requires a minimum of 5yrs experience

u fukkin wot m8?

[yudodistome]

Not for everything...









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Lol wtf is this chit means nothin onviously a computer is gonna be 10,000 when its first coming out because it probably took them a chit ton of time to make and so many resources. nowadays when everything is mass produced and it takes like 30 minutes to machine manufacture an ultrabook 10x as powerful as any computer back then obviously its gonna be a fuk ton cheaper..by this standard the newer generation is almost always guranteed to be easier to live in regardless of the economic situation because ****s always more expensive when it first comes out

[Noodler]

A majority of the people I know that dont have degrees make more money than the ones with bach degrees. Just sayin

[SquallFF8]

Today's generation feels a sense of entitlement. That's why they suck. They expect to go get a history degree and make 100k as a museum tour guide. Meanwhile the generation before did what they could to pay the bills. Not to proud to do manual labor and pay the bills. Get a trade. Get a job. And quit phucking whining. Boo hoo. You aren't guaranteed anything in life.

Really missed the point of the thread brah.

Strong disputes by the guys in their mid-late 30's ITT telling the guys in their 20's why they're wrong. Okay.jpg Must have nice been living in that job market pre-ressession.

[alphadodger]

Today's generation feels a sense of entitlement. That's why they suck. They expect to go get a history degree and make 100k as a museum tour guide. Meanwhile the generation before did what they could to pay the bills. Not to proud to do manual labor and pay the bills. Get a trade. Get a job. And quit phucking whining. Boo hoo. You aren't guaranteed anything in life.

This.

Most of the "males" of this generation waste more time on their ****gy social media accounts (********/twitter/instagram) than spending time reading books, learning new skills, working with their hands, and going outside and networking. Every single one of these *******s prides himself on his e-fame and thinks he is going to make it big as a entrepreneur or youtube millionaire. They get by in life depending on mommy and daddy's finances never becoming independent or learning the value of a dollar. Instead of buckling down and putting in the work to be successful they make threads like these and whine to everyone about "how hard it is" to be young in today's society. And these *******s wonder how come they can't find work after college when they expect 100k/year jobs to be handed to them once they finish getting their non-STEM degree.

If you have time to misc/********/twitter etc then you have time to learn new skills that can help you become a better prospect for hire in your work field. In today's internet information age here is no excuse for not being able to diversify your personal skillset (FREE online courses from Stanford university, itunes U, codeacademy and many other examples) in areas that you have interest in or are passionate about. *******s nowadays are just entitled and lazy.

[Ultraviolence]

Today's generation feels a sense of entitlement. That's why they suck. They expect to go get a history degree and make 100k as a museum tour guide. Meanwhile the generation before did what they could to pay the bills. Not to proud to do manual labor and pay the bills. Get a trade. Get a job. And quit phucking whining. Boo hoo. You aren't guaranteed anything in life.

Easy as **** to say this at age 34 lmao. You can bet your ass I'll be saying the same thing to the next generation when I'm your age.

[Tabris]

So you're fine with living in a shoe box alone your whole life?

Never said that, did I? I just highlighted a pro and a con of the current generation compared to that of a baby boomer. Do you even English?

[musD]

than says.......










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[HolyCowBatman]

if those *******s spent less time on faceshat and less money on dumbphones they would be better off than 20 years ago kids

so yeah, i pretty much agree with the statement.

inb4 negs

[MiscN00b]

brb not paying 18%+ interest on a mortgage. A FUKKING MORTGAGE



brb lower unemployment rate than the early 80s





Look, it isn't rosy right now, but it's been a lot fukking worse, so man up.

urine idiot. inflation was super high when i/r's were at 18%, so the REAL interest rate was much lower

[Issobolic28]

Here are my 2 cents:

If you're unemployed and spending time browsing threads and/or posting on the Misc when you should be job searching, how serious are you about your job search?

[Issobolic28]

Really missed the point of the thread brah.

Strong disputes by the guys in their mid-late 30's ITT telling the guys in their 20's why they're wrong. Okay.jpg Must have nice been living in that job market pre-ressession.

Maybe so; but I bet most people who claim they're "working hard" to look for a job are multitasking with either ********, Misc, etc....

[Tete]

also what do baby boomers need? Sell them that. Have them pay you back for your "troubles"

"But I want a JOB in my chosen field" then that's why you'll never find monetary success

[DatPass]

Brb getting ahead in life due to social benefits and then dismantling the system to save money and phucking my children over...


fkn boomers man.



brb earning 80k a year and home ownership will still take me decades unless i want to live in the sticks (where i couldnt earn that much anyway)

brb barely liveable rathole goes for 400k because Chinese investors are buying ANYTHING

brb Primeminister pays for a study into the BENEFITS of Chinese property investors, because he's a kunt.

[Anondragon2012]

Some of the main problems
1. Baby boomers are not retiring. They are holding to their jobs. Generation X is definitely not retiring.
There is this sense in the job market that Generation Y is not worth hiring. Older experienced guys are better valued. So is their work mentality which is less "renegade".

2. Alot of Generation Y have Bachelor' degrees, even masters. Gen X & Baby boomers did not NEARLY have as many degree educated people.
Basically this means that when Gen Y enter market, there's another 1000 candidate with same or better degree for position. Hence why you have generation Y still doing unpaid internship or **** work or even no work.

Back in the day of my parents...If you looked good, hit the street and networked like a ninja...You could literally get yourself a banking or high level business job with sheer will. Today this is possible but like 0.00001% of the hiring.
Now you have to jump through 10000 hoops to get a good job. And worst of all, all gen Y candidates are jumping thru those hoops so you have too.

Its a very difficult environment...And I say this as a Gen Y business graduate with 3.9 GPA Finance degree from very good school.

On the social level...I will say something controversial but I think Technology has more ****ed the job market and the mentalities than helped.
We are a generation addicted to internet. This has a bad impact on how we behave, I myself am trying to limit my internet to couple hours per day max.
But even at work the Internet is available. So it messes everything up.

Good luck all...Persevere! The thing is never to give up and be happy no matter ur situation!

[Se7en19]

brb unemployment
brb economy sucks
brb degree is the new hs diploma
brb competitive now more than ever
brb can barely afford a house even with a 20yr mortgage
brb no wife material left
brb social media/feminism has ruined women


Yea we have it so fukkin easy

Preach it brother

[Prednisone666]

the internet is seriously the worst.

brb why pour lots of effort into delayed gratification when you can get instant, complacent, effortless distraction on demand

[crabBrah]

Baby boomers actually say this? I thought it was quite obvious that they ****ed everything up and now the current generations have to pay for it.

Brb buy a house in the 1970s, paint it and sell it for twice the price.

[EdwardTheGreat]

I haven't read this whole thread, but I think I agree with OP.

Having to live in this world with internet, emails, no jobs, no security, etc really sucks for young people coming up. You are being forced to be super aggressive at an early age to ensure financial success in life. This attitude translates through to all aspects of your lives and will affect your relationships, your tolerances, your health...

No nostalgia, but I remember growing up as a kid, and even into late teen years without having any of the concerns the modern kid has and I imagine the way I grew up was healthier overall. More time for fun / fukkin around, parents were around more and had much more involvement and influence in my life and happiness, not locking the doors at night, leaving your car windows down in the summer at the mall parking lot, being way, way more physically active just because that was normal, girls were more down to earth...could g on and on.

Having access to technological advancements is like having the distance you have to swim to safety significantly shortened...but if there are 200 times more sharks in the water now, it doesn't help much. Feels for you younger guys

[PepperedAngus]

Earth wasnt so gay back then.

You cant fault people for remembering the good old days.

Now get off my lawn.

[Hesher]

Some of the main problems
1. Baby boomers are not retiring. They are holding to their jobs. Generation X is definitely not retiring.
There is this sense in the job market that Generation Y is not worth hiring. Older experienced guys are better valued. So is their work mentality which is less "renegade".

The bitching in this thread has illustrated the bolded part quite nicely. When I get a resume across my desk, I'd rather go with someone who isn't going to be an entitled brat.

2. Alot of Generation Y have Bachelor' degrees, even masters. Gen X & Baby boomers did not NEARLY have as many degree educated people.
Basically this means that when Gen Y enter market, there's another 1000 candidate with same or better degree for position. Hence why you have generation Y still doing unpaid internship or **** work or even no work.

The average quality of college students has also gone down. You can see this in the fact that they had to recenter the SAT test in the mid 90s.

Back in the day of my parents...If you looked good, hit the street and networked like a ninja...You could literally get yourself a banking or high level business job with sheer will. Today this is possible but like 0.00001% of the hiring.

Unless you were a minority of the wrong type, or went to the wrong school. A lot of the top wall street firms were very particular with regards to pedigree. Salomon was one of the first to actually move away from that.

On the social level...I will say something controversial but I think Technology has more ****ed the job market and the mentalities than helped.
We are a generation addicted to internet. This has a bad impact on how we behave, I myself am trying to limit my internet to couple hours per day max.
But even at work the Internet is available. So it messes everything up.

Exactly. I see people here watching streaming video on their monitors and phones. At least try to be subtle about the whole thing. Seesh.