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    Ghetto nutrition for a broke mother****er.

    I am doing wendler 5/3/1 and I am loving it. I am doing the 4 days a week programming and the days in-between are dedicated to an hour stretching, HIIT jump rope and ab work.

    I am at a very slight calorie defecit and due to only have a 2 hour job while i find a job after leaving my last I am kinda broke.

    I figured a way to eat for around 2 pound a day on average, hit my calorie goal and get 1 gram of protein per lb of LEAN body mass.

    Here is my everyday diet all week and all year for the foreseeable future.

    I go shopping once in awhile and I buy 6 tubs of peanut butter, the 350 gram ones, they are 60 pence each, so thats 3.60

    Then I but jan, I but about 5 500 gram jars for 90 pence each, so thats 4 pounds 50

    I drink a 2.27 litre bottle of 1 percent fat mile a day, they are a pound each.

    I but kale, cook it, ziplock it and then eat about 60 grams a day which gives me pretty much every vitamin I need. I buy about 2 half and half loaves a week for about 1 pound each.

    Here is my current diet



    Breakfast is a huge ass latte with the 1 percent milk, a pbj sandwich

    lunch is kale and a obj sandwich with a pint of milk


    Dinner is the last obj sandwich with the rest of the milk and an espresso

    Here are the macros:

    53% carb
    22% protein
    25% fat

    63g fat - 22 saturated rest split between mono/poly
    297g carbs - 20g fiber - 174 g sugars mainly from the jam and milk
    protein - 123g
    100% vit A vit C vit K - 734% calcium

    How does this sound for someone not looking to get shredded but just strong and thick.
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    Originally Posted by DiggersNick21 View Post
    I am doing wendler 5/3/1 and I am loving it. I am doing the 4 days a week programming and the days in-between are dedicated to an hour stretching, HIIT jump rope and ab work.

    I am at a very slight calorie defecit and due to only have a 2 hour job while i find a job after leaving my last I am kinda broke.

    I figured a way to eat for around 2 pound a day on average, hit my calorie goal and get 1 gram of protein per lb of LEAN body mass.

    Here is my everyday diet all week and all year for the foreseeable future.

    I go shopping once in awhile and I buy 6 tubs of peanut butter, the 350 gram ones, they are 60 pence each, so thats 3.60

    Then I but jan, I but about 5 500 gram jars for 90 pence each, so thats 4 pounds 50

    I drink a 2.27 litre bottle of 1 percent fat mile a day, they are a pound each.

    I but kale, cook it, ziplock it and then eat about 60 grams a day which gives me pretty much every vitamin I need. I buy about 2 half and half loaves a week for about 1 pound each.

    Here is my current diet



    Breakfast is a huge ass latte with the 1 percent milk, a pbj sandwich

    lunch is kale and a obj sandwich with a pint of milk


    Dinner is the last obj sandwich with the rest of the milk and an espresso

    Here are the macros:

    53% carb
    22% protein
    25% fat

    63g fat - 22 saturated rest split between mono/poly
    297g carbs - 20g fiber - 174 g sugars mainly from the jam and milk
    protein - 123g
    100% vit A vit C vit K - 734% calcium

    How does this sound for someone not looking to get shredded but just strong and thick.
    It is extremely difficult to gain strength on a caloric deficit of any kind. Especially if you are natural.
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    Originally Posted by bcop View Post
    It is extremely difficult to gain strength on a caloric deficit of any kind. Especially if you are natural.
    I am a fat **** so getting even fatter is not an option.
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    Originally Posted by DiggersNick21 View Post
    I am a fat **** so getting even fatter is not an option.
    What is your real height and weight?
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    I would swap to whole milk. That's an easy way to up your cals without having to spend any extra money.
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    Originally Posted by bcop View Post
    What is your real height and weight?
    5,9 - 195-198 lbs around 32-35 percent body fat. I injured myself grappling and spent a year getting fat as ****ing buddha. I have the mcrib sandwich regret.
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    Originally Posted by BigJon55 View Post
    I would swap to whole milk. That's an easy way to up your cals without having to spend any extra money.
    I thought about it but if I did i could only have one pbj sandwich instead of 3, which seems to be against god and not a happy thought.
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    Originally Posted by bcop View Post
    What is your real height and weight?
    op is 3.048 meters and about 80 kg
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    taco bell, eat some tacos while they're ringing you up and after your done throw the wrapper back at the drive thru window or throw all your crap out the window on your way home.... is that ghetto enough...and won't hurt your pocket too bad
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    Originally Posted by magic15 View Post
    taco bell, eat some tacos while they're ringing you up and after your done throw the wrapper back at the drive thru window or throw all your crap out the window on your way home.... is that ghetto enough...and won't hurt your pocket too bad
    Your advice was ****y but your abs are sexy. So thanks bud, appreciate the help.
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    Because you don't want to be a skinny *******. I'll give you advice
    1. Get whole milk, same price. 8oz of 1%= 4oz of 2% nutrient wise.
    2. When ****s on sale, buy tons of it. Especially milk and peanut butter
    3. Eat plain peanut butter and drink milk if you want to skip the sandwich, jelly and bread have almost 0 nutritional value
    4. If you're doing 5/3/1 correctly you can eat at your 'maintenance level' and still lose weight due to the fact that when you build more muscle your maintenance will increase.
    5. For ab work, make sure you're not doing pointless crap like crunches and other various ab exercises that destroy your back. Look on youtube "Ab exercises good for lower back"
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    As a beginner and at 2250 cals a day you will be able to gain muscle and lose fat for a while, it will at least get you out of the 30% fat zone. I am impressed with your frugality.

    Also your name will give the dyslexic a laugh, if it's intentional transposition then grats i suppose.

    And +1 for whole milk.
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    Originally Posted by DiggersNick21 View Post
    I thought about it but if I did i could only have one pbj sandwich instead of 3, which seems to be against god and not a happy thought.
    Says who? The PBJ police? You can eat whatever you want. Do you want to get bigger or not?
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    Originally Posted by BigJon55 View Post
    Says who? The PBJ police? You can eat whatever you want. Do you want to get bigger or not?
    Define bigger. I am pretty gutted at the state of my body, I've got these freddie kruger stretch marks from way over my belly button and all the way down near my dick. I just can't imagine getting bigger being good at all. I want to get leaner and still slowly build strength and muscle over the course of years. At 35ish percent body fat I would imagine that it is still possible to build muscle while being at a 100 calorie defecit?
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    Originally Posted by DiggersNick21 View Post
    Define bigger. I am pretty gutted at the state of my body, I've got these freddie kruger stretch marks from way over my belly button and all the way down near my dick. I just can't imagine getting bigger being good at all. I want to get leaner and still slowly build strength and muscle over the course of years. At 35ish percent body fat I would imagine that it is still possible to build muscle while being at a 100 calorie defecit?
    Gain strength/muscle

    or

    Lose weight/BF

    Pick one, you can't have both. Sure, you can make some small strength gains while cutting, but I find that this is oftentimes due to technique and conditioning in general.

    Up the protein levels, drop carbs, up fats. 500 calorie Deficit a day while lifting heavy.

    For cheap foods, I suggest the following:
    Rice
    Oatmeal
    Tillapia
    Ground meat
    Ground chicken
    chicken breasts on sale
    Turkey on sale
    Potatoes
    Peanut Butter
    Frozen veggies
    almond milk (bit pricey...)
    Sirloin (when it's on sale)

    At such a high BF%, just worry about dropping fat first. You will gain some strength along the way, but you won't suddenly get huge/insanely strong.
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    If you're that unhappy with how you look and are poor at the moment just cut.


    I'm sure that's not going to be the popular answer but it makes sense to me.
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    Originally Posted by kgts View Post
    Gain strength/muscle

    or

    Lose weight/BF

    Pick one, you can't have both. Sure, you can make some small strength gains while cutting, but I find that this is oftentimes due to technique and conditioning in general.

    Up the protein levels, drop carbs, up fats. 500 calorie Deficit a day while lifting heavy.

    For cheap foods, I suggest the following:
    Rice
    Oatmeal
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    Ground meat
    Ground chicken
    chicken breasts on sale
    Turkey on sale
    Potatoes
    Peanut Butter
    Frozen veggies
    almond milk (bit pricey...)
    Sirloin (when it's on sale)

    At such a high BF%, just worry about dropping fat first. You will gain some strength along the way, but you won't suddenly get huge/insanely strong.
    Great list!!. Depending on where you live tilapia may not be all that cheap. Cod, haddock, Pollock are similar and sometimes cheaper. Pork is cheap and fatty also.
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    ...how could I forget rice. Rice is ridiculously cheap as well as eggs if you can get them on sale

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    Originally Posted by jonnymac81 View Post
    Great list!!. Depending on where you live tilapia may not be all that cheap. Cod, haddock, Pollock are similar and sometimes cheaper. Pork is cheap and fatty also.
    Completely forgot about pork. If you are a costco member, pick up some pork chops there. THICK and cheap. Also their microwaveable bacon. Tastes good and has pretty good macros, just cook out some of the fat.

    Check your local grocery store's fish section for salmon sales. It's normally like $12 a pound at mine, but it drops to $5 on sale. Grilled salmon makes a killer meal.


    You can eggs to the list as well, I just don't like them.

    In all honesty, burgers pack some hardcore macros for cheap. They also taste great which doesn't hurt
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    At the start of my previous wendler cycle I got 50kg on the bench for 9 reps and last night I got it for 15 reps then did 3 sets of 10 with it.

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    Bulk chicken is cheap. Rice is cheap. Stop being lazy and get some real food.
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    Originally Posted by HamburgerTrain View Post
    Bulk chicken is cheap. Rice is cheap. Stop being lazy and get some real food.
    ^This. If you want to lose weight just eat at a slight deficit, lift 3-4 days a week and do cardio 3-4 days a week.
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    Bulk Protein (Chicken/Ground Beef/Turkey/etc..) + Potatoes + Cheap spices + Onion/Corn/etc.. then throw it in a big skillet and voila poverty meals for days. Cheap condiments will last a while and give you some variety. Basically making a hash with it. I made that and whole wheat pasta a lot in college when I was on that poverty meal plan.
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    I don't want to start a new thread so I will ask in this one, how do people feel about olympic shoes? I have a pair because my mobility sucks ass. I do high bar tag squats in them. is it better to use chucks and work on mobility or is it better to use olympic shoes adjust work on mobility on the side?
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    I'd recommend adding some cheap fish or chicken in there fit a little more protein, IDK about non-US prices on these though.

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    Originally Posted by DiggersNick21 View Post
    I don't want to start a new thread so I will ask in this one, how do people feel about olympic shoes? I have a pair because my mobility sucks ass. I do high bar tag squats in them. is it better to use chucks and work on mobility or is it better to use olympic shoes adjust work on mobility on the side?
    opinions vary. Pretty much all the strongest raw squatters in the world wear a heeled shoe, so take that for what it's worth. I like mine, and I don't know anyone personally who has gotten a heeled shoe and then went back to chucks. But I have heard of a few online, so I guess it happens.

    TBH, the main competition lifts really don't take that much flexibility. While I think it's good to work on and to keep yourself somewhat limber, you don't have to go crazy about it.
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    Being broke sucks, but you can suck less by using these cheap methods of nutrition:

    Chicken thighs, the chit of the chicken, often sold in bulk because only one person buys them, and that's you! The bodybuilder swagging on a budget.

    Whole milk, upping the protein slightly, getting a lawt of fayet in that diet, this becomes your fave beverage next to a protein shake and good ol H20.

    Water, yes. Just yes.

    Bulk protein from walmart or sam's club, I bought a 5 lb bag of whey protein from sam's club for $28, the quality of the protein is next to ass cheap but for you protein is protein, leave the HQ stuff to those deep pocket bodybuilders.

    Other hints I use:

    Become that guy that flocks to sales at GNC or bodybuilding.com(I go to both, tbh GNC has sales that BB.com doesn't so the gold membership card is worth it for me), load up if it's really cheap and if it doesn't put you in the red.

    Clothing: I know this is off-topic form your question but you'll be suprised how much this has an effect on your budget. Switch to the goodwill, salvation army, etc. for the entirety of your clothing purchases if any.

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    gotta sale shop,my wife and I both lift and try to eat halfway healthy,she is usually good at finding sales on chicken,paid.99/lb for chicken breast,20lbs of chicken for less than 20buck's is hard to beat,thigh's are always cheap but so damn greasy you will get tired of that sh!t fast...you can sometimes get tuna really cheap,but that gets old fast too...potatoes are a good choice also...
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