Malaysian Airlines flight is missing (Part 2) (MH370)

[elgregorio]

People are triying to kill US people because your government keeps fuking up their countries and supporting dictators in their area and sht. The US government pretty much keeps them oppressed in every single way, economical, poltiical, socially, etc...

Thats why they are trying to fuk up the US, they are specifically trying to fuk the regular citizen up because most of the time he believes that the US government is doing the right thing and also because you guys refuse to remove those shady politicians from power (people that are runing their life).

Easy to understand why you are targets of terrorism, srs. Same reason why Spain got their trains fuked

So these crap holes were prosperous and peaceful before US intervention then?

[RobotDeathSquad]

chits crazy you think there was supposed to be another plane in on it or coincidence? This whole ordeal hurts my brain

No, the pilot may have practiced at home tailing other jets silently. The other jet would be completely unaware that MH370 was tailing it because the transponder was off. The simulator just makes this even more believable.

[Antonio519]

Did you miscers find it yet

[Tzaddiq]

Did you miscers find it yet

No but we found many, many coconuts.

[digitalchi]

inb4 the plane mysterious show back up on radar and all passengers and flights crews have no recollection of what happened

[dudemanbro2479]

No, the pilot may have practiced at home tailing other jets silently. The other jet would be completely unaware that MH370 was tailing it because the transponder was off. The simulator just makes this even more believable.

imagine if that chit happend? We would be even more so completley baffled by this. How close would 2 planes have to be to appear as one on a radar?

[TejS]

How many times will this irrelevant chit get posted? Phuck sakes, give it a rest.

[gatorkunt]

I have a feeling this whole thing will be given up on and forgotten soon. It will turn into one of those unsolved mysteries you see on TV every once in a while

Yep.

Brb Unsolved mysteries episode on daytime TV.

Heres a hint, it's at the bottom of the ocean.

imagine if that chit happend? We would be even more so completley baffled by this. How close would 2 planes have to be to appear as one on a radar?

Depends on the RADAR but pretty close. It didn't shadow another plane.

If...IF it did the pilot would need to use his nav/weather avoidance radar which would leave a nice trail of breadcrumbs for our satellites to follow. Wether or not it "shadowed" another plane I doubt the pilot was smart enough to turn off HIS radar besides him not being on a designated flight path or in communication with ATC he would need to rely on it even more.

Don't confuse the onboard beacons/transponders with actual RADARs.

[deerdiary]

On the MH370 piggybacking on another plane's radar signature:

SIA68 was scheduled to depart at 16:40 UTC (12:40 SGT). The planes were supposed to leave the airport within a minute of each other. However, SIA68 was delayed by 20 minutes. So it possibly wouldn't have been exactly where 370 would have expected when it veered off course to join it.

However, it landed almost on time, making up for the lost time early in the flight when it was zipping along at 511kts.

But when could MH-370 have joined it? The latest[1] seems to say that it was spotted off the Malaysian coast at 2:15am SGT, 18:15 UTC. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/world/...e-up-to-speed/

Here is where SIA 68 was at that time, although it had departed 20 minutes late. (Blue line- red was as planned.)

Here is the flight track of MH-370 at that time. Chasing down SIA-68.

HERE is an overlay of the two images. It is absolutely clear as day it was pursuing SIA-68, and probably met up with it shortly before the Andaman islands.

I think it's absolutely certain now what happened. It's the only thing that explains that erratic and frantic flight path back across Malaysia. The only thing.

MORE: Here is the relevant flight path of SIA-68, at 6:43AM Malasian Time, 22:43 UTC.

Here is the "northern arc." Where 370 last pinged at 8:11AM Malaysian Time, 00:11 UTC, or about an hour and a half later.
Once again, here is an overlay of the two- (scale was hard to get just right but you get the picture.) Obviously MH-370 veered off through Pakistan at some point.



So if it wasn't clear- in the last overlay, the red arc is where 370 was at 8:11am. The lower blue line is where SIA-68 was at 6:43am, about an hour and a half earlier. The distance between them is approximately 728 nautical miles. That takes about an hour and a half flying at 450 knots. Another piece that at least supports this.

gjdm.

[taddpole]

That plane is in Pakistan in terrorist hands srs. Tier one operators need to go there now and get it back.

If this is the case US intelligence already knows and it would happen before the plane could be used.

[Tzaddiq]

inb4 the plane mysterious show back up on radar and all passengers and flights crews have no recollection of what happened

and for no particular reason all their colons feel mysteriously... uncomfortable.

[Trequartista]

didnt a Chinese group claim responsibility for it like the day after? and the authorities dismissed it as not being credible

given the satellite arc and potential flight path, shouldnt they probably go back and double check to make sure it wasnt credible

[RobotDeathSquad]

imagine if that chit happend? We would be even more so completley baffled by this. How close would 2 planes have to be to appear as one on a radar?

Several hundred meters. Wouldn't be too hard if it was simply higher than the front one. If people think this is hard, just think of mid-air refueling and if that's possible, than this is cake easy.

[turkey_server]

didnt a Chinese group claim responsibility for it like the day after? and the authorities dismissed it as not being credible

given the satellite arc and potential flight path, shouldnt they probably go back and double check to make sure it wasnt credible

The group that claimed it is a group that fights with knives because they can't even afford guns. Pretty sure they can't hijack a plane brah.

[gatorkunt]

Several hundred meters. Wouldn't be too hard if it was simply higher than the front one. If people think this is hard, just think of mid-air refueling and if that's possible, than this is cake easy.

Yep it's that easy….





Not ****ing srs

[YourCousinVinny]

I have a feeling this whole thing will be given up on and forgotten soon. It will turn into one of those unsolved mysteries you see on TV every once in a while

On 'Mayday'

[DurhamXI]

Does anyone else get the feeling that the passengers are dead but the pilot and/or the hijackers may very well be alive?

[1quick1]

Does anyone else get the feeling that the passengers are dead but the pilot and/or the hijackers may very well be alive?

I think if anyone is alive they all are besides maybe a few that resisted or made examples of. 230 hostages and a 777 will demand a lot of attention.

[Agent Lazy 78]

[DurhamXI]

I think if anyone is alive they all are besides maybe a few that resisted or made examples of. 230 hostages and a 777 will demand a lot of attention.

True, they have value as being kept as hostages. But, the confusing thing is, why has no one come forward? Usually, terrorists use these events as pressure group tactics (because terrorist organisations are pressure groups) to increase exposure to their cause, its the most effective way of getting their cause known to the wider world. To totally disappear like what is happening right now is nonsensical.

Alternatively, I would not think they have much reason to steal a plane either? Would purpose does this have? It is very unusual to just want to make a plane disappear like that. Terrorists/lone terrorists usually want exposure...

[BuckNakedinBama]

Yes a terrorist group would want exposure, but you've got to think they're enjoying making the world look blind and foolish this whole time. The longer it goes on the bigger the terrorist rouse that was pulled off.

[VANZFINEST]

Just had a scary thought, the plane flew behind another plane, thus avoiding being detected on radar. Then they landed the plane in Allah Akbarland. And now they are studying it and reverse engineering it to find weak points and flaws. Then once they decide to unleash their terror, MULTIPLE planes in MULTIPLE countrys are targeted and used as a weapon for terror...Atleast thats what I would do if I was a terrorist and thinking about the big picture. Go big or go home...just sayin..


How come no one is reporting on the plane going up 45k feet really??? Knowing this, in all likelihood the passengers are more than likely dead...Its just too much trouble for whoever is doing this to keep so many people quiet, feed, watch over. Just seems like the right thing to do if your thinking like a terrorist...Just eliminates A LOT of variables and ways your plan could fall through. Combine that with the pressure of evading and not being detected by military and radar, taking out the passengers would be #1.

[1quick1]

True, they have value as being kept as hostages. But, the confusing thing is, why has no one come forward? Usually, terrorists use these events as pressure group tactics (because terrorist organisations are pressure groups) to increase exposure to their cause, its the most effective way of getting their cause known to the wider world. To totally disappear like what is happening right now is nonsensical.

Alternatively, I would not think they have much reason to steal a plane either? Would purpose does this have? It is very unusual to just want to make a plane disappear like that. Terrorists/lone terrorists usually want exposure...

I agree 100% with everything you're saying.

What scares me is if it is on the ground somewhere and they haven't come forward, what's the game plan? A 777 in the possession of terrorist with countries that may be turning a blind eye or even assisting them is what scares me. We clearly already learned they can't cover shiit on radar.

[RobotDeathSquad]

Just had a scary thought, the plane flew behind another plane, thus avoiding being detected on radar. Then they landed the plane in Allah Akbarland. And now they are studying it and reverse engineering it to find weak points and flaws. Then once they decide to unleash their terror, MULTIPLE planes in MULTIPLE countrys are targeted and used as a weapon for terror...Atleast thats what I would do if I was a terrorist and thinking about the big picture. Go big or go home...just sayin..

entirely possible

[longfellowdeeds]

days go by just leads me to believe now it is indeed in the ocean

was watching the news and they said if it was still on land, they would have had needed 1 mile to land it, a foreign body of govt to help hide it, make sure no one was able to track it once on land, make sure no one sees it flying right before landing (the whole world is looking for it)

its very unlikely for it to be anywhere else dont u guys think? I think it will be found sometime in the future

but then again some people are saying there should be debris floating around if it had crashed in the ocean

[1quick1]

Just had a scary thought, the plane flew behind another plane, thus avoiding being detected on radar. Then they landed the plane in Allah Akbarland. And now they are studying it and reverse engineering it to find weak points and flaws. Then once they decide to unleash their terror, MULTIPLE planes in MULTIPLE countrys are targeted and used as a weapon for terror...Atleast thats what I would do if I was a terrorist and thinking about the big picture. Go big or go home...just sayin..

I think this is a valid concern but I believe they have wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy easiers ways to learn a planes weakness by simply buying a ticket. Plus most of the information they are looking for is readily available on the web. Not saying it's not the case but it would be a hell of a lot of trouble just to learn your way around the inside of a plan. Actually now that I type that I got to thinking they could use it as a training ground for cockpit assaults and breaches. That's pretty scary.

[RobotDeathSquad]

Terrorists today aren't the hijackers from the 80s that want to use passengers as leverage... they want to inflict death and pain in the name of religion. The death toll is more important. Some men just want to watch the world burn and will use religion as a tool.

[1quick1]

Terrorists today aren't the hijackers from the 80s that want to use passengers as leverage... they want to inflict death and pain in the name of religion. The death toll is more important. Some men just want to watch the world burn and will use religion as a tool.

While likely true, the terrorists don't really win (for their 'cause' if the world never hears of it). Long are the days where we will entertain bowing to their demands or I'd like to believe. While this is going to sound like the biggest hyprocrytical comment I have ever said and I don't believe in this at all but it's almost one of those things if the governments just handled it on the underground it wouldn't be nearly as much a moral victory. Again /nohypocrite

[jeffl1980]

Haven t you guys seen the show "Lost".....its pretty clear what happened guys

[InOrOut]

If it crashed, wouldn't they have found floating bodies or some sort of clothes/bags ? I also, agree to the theory that the pilot killed the passengers & crew by flying at high altitude, as otherwise, I would believe the passengers would have sent text messages or even phoned the help line. Now, they clearly didn't have that opportunity. Because if they sent a text message, it would've been delivered on the way plane went down or moved locations. However, what I don't understand then is that, when the plane went back to normal altitude (or landed), the phones of passengers should of had signal. Unless the pilot collected each and every phone while flying and switched it off which doesn't seem likely, unless there were more people involved.