Only Macronutirent turns into muscle?

[Dan8890]

Hey good day BB community I have a question , only macronutirnet turns into muscle as the ittle say? Im in a Lean bulk (Eating 15% Surplus of my TDEE) and I have been drinking some of my daily calories to hit my calorie intake ( Hitting my minimum macro/micro per dday ) before obously and just consuming around 300-400 calories from alchohol, but as I have learned alchohol are empty calories, it dosent contain any fat/protein/carb macronutrient so where does these calories come from? Cant these calories be the same like drinking a calorie dense smoothie or dirnk and get the same body composition results? I have already read the Martin Berkha alchohol article but This dosent come there, so can someone please answer me? In case it dosent is like hitting the rest of daily calories with alchohol is the same like being in a mainteince phase? No muscle gain? Thanks

[Former300lber]

What?

[knowledgeEpower]

This is hard to read, but alcohol is a macronutrient. It is 7 calories per gram. Then in most alcoholic drinks there are fillers which are mostly in the form of carbs.

[x-ray vision]

but as I have learned alchohol are empty calories, it dosent contain any fat/protein/carb macronutrient so where does these calories come from?

Alcohol is not empty calories. An alcoholic beverage can be considered empty calories but not the alcohol itself. Empty calories applies to food that supplies food energy but little or no other nutrition. Alcohol supplies food energy like the other macronutrients that you mentioned. It's the amount of useable energy a food contains that determines how many calories it contains.

[Dan8890]

What?

Why :/ sorry

This is hard to read, but alcohol is a macronutrient. It is 7 calories per gram. Then in most alcoholic drinks there are fillers which are mostly in the form of carbs.

Alcohol is not empty calories. An alcoholic beverage can be considered empty calories but not the alcohol itself. Empty calories applies to food that supplies food energy but little or no other nutrition. Alcohol supplies food energy like the other macronutrients that you mentioned. It's the amount of useable energy a food contains that determines how many calories it contains.

Oh I see , I thought that because when I tacked alchohol into calorieking.com it said no carbs/fat/protein just alchohol "Alcohol 13.9g" so muscle can be build from alchol carbs!? I drink about 400m+-l = 850+-calories <Based in Calorieking.com> Every weekend

[Dan8890]

What?

Why :/ sorry

This is hard to read, but alcohol is a macronutrient. It is 7 calories per gram. Then in most alcoholic drinks there are fillers which are mostly in the form of carbs.

Alcohol is not empty calories. An alcoholic beverage can be considered empty calories but not the alcohol itself. Empty calories applies to food that supplies food energy but little or no other nutrition. Alcohol supplies food energy like the other macronutrients that you mentioned. It's the amount of useable energy a food contains that determines how many calories it contains.

Oh I see , I thought that because when I tacked alchohol into calorieking.com it said no carbs/fat/protein just alchohol "Alcohol 13.9g" so muscle can be build from alchol carbs!? Obously with a proper nutrition tracking macros/micros daily and a good lifting routine (ICF5x5) I drink about 400m+-l = 850+-calories <Based in Calorieking.com> Every weekend

[Dan8890]

What?

Why :/ sorry

This is hard to read, but alcohol is a macronutrient. It is 7 calories per gram. Then in most alcoholic drinks there are fillers which are mostly in the form of carbs.

Alcohol is not empty calories. An alcoholic beverage can be considered empty calories but not the alcohol itself. Empty calories applies to food that supplies food energy but little or no other nutrition. Alcohol supplies food energy like the other macronutrients that you mentioned. It's the amount of useable energy a food contains that determines how many calories it contains.

Oh I see , I thought that because when I tacked alchohol into calorieking.com it said no carbs/fat/protein just alchohol "Alcohol 13.9g" so muscle can be build from alchol carbs!? Obously with a proper nutrition tracking macros/micros daily and a good lifting routine (ICF5x5) I drink about 400m+-l = 850+-calories <Based in Calorieking.com> Every weekend

[Dan8890]

Bump any explanation plz ?

[ironwill2008]

You should probably wait until you're sober to post your questions, OP.

[ELLSKIES]

You should probably wait until you're sober to post your questions, OP.

Gahahahahahaha!

[Dan8890]

You should probably wait until you're sober to post your questions, OP.

Haha nice one in short words : can calorie surplus from alcohol turn into muscle with no second effects on body composition?(not saying health)

Btw; could someone share the nutritional information of brandy or rum to calculate my macros ?

[ironwill2008]

Haha nice one in short words : can calorie surplus from alcohol turn into muscle with no second effects on body composition?(not saying health)

Btw; could someone share the nutritional information of brandy or rum to calculate my macros ?

No.


and No.

[Dan8890]

No.


and No.

WHy Not?

Why Not?

Why could you explain me?

Why pro people on forum have to be so mean with noobs that just have a question and want to learn something -.-?

[AlwaysTryin]

WHy Not?

Why Not?

Why could you explain me?

Why pro people on forum have to be so mean with noobs that just have a question and want to learn something -.-?

English isn't your first language is it?

[Dan8890]

English isn't your first language is it?

no its not and but even if its not i think you understand my question bro :/ its really hard for me speask english

[buddhastalin]

WHy Not?

Why Not?

Why could you explain me?

Why pro people on forum have to be so mean with noobs that just have a question and want to learn something -.-?

you can be in a caloric surplus and gain muscle while at the same time including alcohol in your diet. muscle, along with fat, is gained from lifting and eating at a surplus. i.e., if you have a beer a day and you're in a caloric surplus and you've gained muscle, it is not solely the beer that made this possible, it is because you're at an overall surplus of calories. results would depend on ratios.

[Dan8890]

you can be in a caloric surplus and gain muscle while at the same time including alcohol in your diet. muscle, along with fat, is gained from lifting and eating at a surplus. i.e., if you have a beer a day and you're in a caloric surplus and you've gained muscle, it is not solely the beer that made this possible, it is because you're at an overall surplus of calories. results would depend on ratios.

Hey bro I really aprecciate your reply thanks! so I can make my surplus with some alcohol on weekends I mean for example my 15% surplus is 2800 cals ( I consume 2400 cals over the day and the rest of the 400 cals from alcohol ? that way I can make the same gains in muscle/fat? even if calories come from alcohol or from oats for example?

[BeakerTower]

It's not the last calories the ones that count for making muscle. All you eat along the day counts, in fact you can think of it weekly.
If your maintenance is at 2400 and you eat 2800, the last 400 calories that you eat are NOT the ones that will make your gains. It can be anything you eat during the day, or even what you eat in the next day.

Alcohol can not make muscles, as fat and carbs can't, only protein makes muscles (physically). But the process is more complex and you need the other macros for you body to function correctly, like have normal hormones.
The body make priorities of what to do in that moment based on the overall balances. Saying that, when you drink alcohol a lot of process in the body will stop until the alcohol is eliminated from you body, the body sees alcohol as a poison so it make it priority #1 to filter it. One of the function that stop is building muscles.

So alcohol can help you to reach you total calories, but will also stop your muscles from grow until it's eliminated (I'm not sure if a bad timing of alcohol could ruin your gains or not). Of course if you abuse it, you know what will happen.

[liftingbright]

Protein is the only macronutrient that is actually broken down to build muscle when synthesised with other components on a molecular level.

[Dat1Ecto]

trolls!

[Dan8890]

It's not the last calories the ones that count for making muscle. All you eat along the day counts, in fact you can think of it weekly.
If your maintenance is at 2400 and you eat 2800, the last 400 calories that you eat are NOT the ones that will make your gains. It can be anything you eat during the day, or even what you eat in the next day.

Alcohol can not make muscles, as fat and carbs can't, only protein makes muscles (physically). But the process is more complex and you need the other macros for you body to function correctly, like have normal hormones.
The body make priorities of what to do in that moment based on the overall balances. Saying that, when you drink alcohol a lot of process in the body will stop until the alcohol is eliminated from you body, the body sees alcohol as a poison so it make it priority #1 to filter it. One of the function that stop is building muscles.

So alcohol can help you to reach you total calories, but will also stop your muscles from grow until it's eliminated (I'm not sure if a bad timing of alcohol could ruin your gains or not). Of course if you abuse it, you know what will happen.

Protein is the only macronutrient that is actually broken down to build muscle when synthesised with other components on a molecular level.

As I have read you need a "CALORIC SURPLUS" To male muscle, and you can get this surplus hitting your daily macro/micro nutrients and get the rest of calories from a mix of macros that you preffer most of them of whole foods. But now im more confused than I was at first because according to "Martin Berkhan Alcohol Article" He said :

"The negative effects of alcohol on testosterone and recovery has been grossly exaggerated by the fitness mainstream. Excluding very high acute alcohol consumption, or prolonged and daily consumption, the effect is non-significant and unlikely to affect muscle gains or training adaptations negatively.

* The effect of alcohol on muscle protein synthesis is unknown in normal human subjects. It is not unlikely to assume that a negative effect exists, but it is very unlikely that it is of such a profound magnitude that some people would have you believe."

So Im just asking that if I get that : get the rest of calories from a mix of macros that you preffer" From alcohol on weekends (300-400cals) If I get the surplus of whole foods the other days of the week, I will not have gains or ruin them as you said before?

[DisturbedNatty]

So you drink 300-400 cals of alcohol a day then? That is heavy alcohol consumption and probably going to be hindering your progress. I drink a couple times a week(2-4 heavy beers) and If I definitely notice my recovery and strength starting to slip when I have more than maybe a six pack a week.

[Dan8890]

So you drink 300-400 cals of alcohol a day then? That is heavy alcohol consumption and probably going to be hindering your progress. I drink a couple times a week(2-4 heavy beers) and If I definitely notice my recovery and strength starting to slip when I have more than maybe a six pack a week.

Not every day just sat-sunday but im talking in body compossition effects no in health or performance :P (Thanks for your SERIOUS reply)

[cumminslifter]

yall rollin in this bread

[Dan8890]

yall rollin in this bread

No bread question just alcohol? :/ I really didnt understand what you meant

[AlwaysTryin]

No bread question just alcohol? :/ I really didnt understand what you meant

That you're a troll

[Dan8890]

That you're a troll

Why the heel im a troll for asking a simple doubt thats is worrying me -.-?

[health4life24]

yall rollin in this bread