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    Unhappy always low on calories

    Hey everyone, ive started counting macros i dont have a specific diet but i eat to reach my goals as much as i can im taking 3 protein shakes (2 as meal replacement) and eating 4 meals per day.

    I should eat around 2800 calories but i am eating between 2000 and 2400, fat states are normal carbs always the half amount should be 400 eating 200, but protein should be 140g im eating sometimes around 170g so my question is i can i still gain muscles while hitting my protein target even not eating enough calories ???
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    Very unlikely. Get a jar of PB and eat lots
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    Yeah buddy. I did an extended PSMF and let me tell you, without the right supplements, you will lose muscle. Calories provide energy, for your workouts, yes, but also for your cells to use all that protein. Without enough calories, the protein will act as fuel (catabolic). I know it's tough. If you eat meat, eat a little more of it. Maybe look into higher-calorie shakes. It seems like you are trying to add 500 calories-- that's like one large meal. Try "second breakfast" or stay up late until you're hungry again.
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    Why are you having trouble not getting the cals in tho? U don't like food bru?
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    Originally Posted by Alcastive View Post
    Hey everyone, ive started counting macros i dont have a specific diet but i eat to reach my goals as much as i can im taking 3 protein shakes (2 as meal replacement) and eating 4 meals per day.

    I should eat around 2800 calories but i am eating between 2000 and 2400, fat states are normal carbs always the half amount should be 400 eating 200, but protein should be 140g im eating sometimes around 170g so my question is i can i still gain muscles while hitting my protein target even not eating enough calories ???
    If you workout everyday it's way to low imo. But you could eat more proteins or add some more into the shakes. And add muscle on a low cal diet wont work, you might get ripped but your not gaining muscles.
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    Premium ice cream...After dinner maybe...easily 550 cals
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    Originally Posted by Alcastive View Post
    can i still gain muscles while hitting my protein target even not eating enough calories ???
    Doubtful, and if you do, it will be very little. While lean mass accretion does require adequate protein, it also needs a surplus of energy to generate new tissue. If it were entirely depending on protein intake, everyone would be consuming 50%+ protein and never bulk.

    Of course there are exceptions to every rule (like rookie gains), but it doesn't look like you'll be able to take advantage of those.

    The answer is to eat more-- Food is your friend, and there are plenty of high energy sources out there than can fix your problem.
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    Why are you replacing meals with shakes?

    Start eating proper food and you'll hit your cals no problem.
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    I lol at people who can't find high calorie foods.
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    Originally Posted by VmissileX View Post
    I lol at people who can't find high calorie foods.
    my favorite underrated calorie-dense-and-delicious food: potato skins. who can get full on loaded potato skins and still come in under maintenance?
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    Thank you all, i workout 5 days a week 3 days 1 on off 2 days on, heavyweight i take also pre and creatine 5g daily) i replace shakes with meals because i dont have time to eat during my job (only 1 meal).

    I will try to add 2 tbsp of pb and skim milk banana and some nuts to my shake, and maybe eat some sweet potatos, i was afraid a bit to eat more fat, and i realized many lebanese food that are rich in carbs have high fats too.

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    Dietary fat does not automatically translate to body fat.

    As long as your calories are in check, your performance is optimised and all other nutritional needs are met you can eat as much fat as you want.
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    Why would you be drinking skim milk if you are struggling to get calories in?
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    Originally Posted by tara19 View Post
    Why would you be drinking skim milk if you are struggling to get calories in?
    :S????
    It has more protein, and tastes better cold.
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    Originally Posted by VmissileX View Post
    I lol at people who can't find high calorie foods.
    this. bulking should be easy, especially if you enjoy food. peanut butter, ice cream, bread... are all calorie dense foods that taste awesome and will help you reach your goals. nuts too, heck, just eat a cup or two of mixed nuts a day and you will easily reach your goals
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    Eat more quality fat. Enjoy some cocnut butter, avocado, almond butter...increasing good fat will add quality calories to your daily regimen. The good fats found in these foods are essential for energy production, metabolism, hormone production, healthy digestion. The list goes on.
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