Malaysian Airlines flight is missing (BREAKING)

[skinnytobulk]

The ocean is vast and deep. SAR is a big part of my job. If it happens in the ocean I am more surprised when we do find something.

Air france 447 took over a year to find the plane in the bottom of the ocean, and then took some time to locate the black boxes, then a few more years to determine cause, so this will take awhile to find answers.

[southernwinds34]

08:21 GMT - Cameraman punched - For some the grief is too much.
Neil Connor in Beijing reports seeing a man who appeared to be in his sixties entering a room, wiping tears from his eyes with a handkerchief, and punching a cameraman in the face when he tried to film him as he walked by.
At the same time a security shouted "Don't you all have families."

Disgusts me on so many levels I wish those camerman were shot

[OnedayHEHE]

This is actually not an accurate representation of what happened though. If the plane hadn't broken apart at altitude, there would have been plenty of time for making radio calls, letting ATC know what's going on, what your plan is, etc. Even under worst conditions, planes will have a glide ratio that will allow a minimum of one hour flight under zero engine power (rule of thumb: clearly depends upon several unknown factors). If you are all sitting around with time to look at each other than most likely you'll simply be making a ditch landing on water and egressing. Still scary, especially to people that aren't trained I'm sure, but landing a plane on water isn't too bad.

Yes well in my mind I imagined it that the plane was going down with no wings....gl landing mate

[Carbonfibre]

crazy how they have no clue where it is.

Air France 447 was middle of pacific much more difficult then 200-250km off coast of Vietnam.

[ClaudeGiroux]

how long do you guys figure it will take before it is found? will they within 24 hrs?

[Muskle]

If it was a terrorist's doing how the fuark would they pull it off? hold 200+ people at knife point?

[Ace Thedics]

If it was a terrorist's doing how the fuark would they pull it off? hold 200+ people at knife point?

Pull carry-on out of compartment while at appropriate altitude and press a button perhaps. Wouldn't need to hold anyone hostage.

[ClaudeGiroux]

cant imagine how much of a sh*t storm it would be if this was deemed a terrorist attack.. i don't think it is anyway

[MastaBeta]

Damn. No distress call. It must have happened fast. Hopefully they'll find the plane soon. That cameraman deserved to be punched in the face.

[cromofo]

still nothing?

[iRepZimbabwe]

Not sheriff srs




Yeah there hasn't been a legit plane crash with fatalities since 9/11 I'm pretty sure.

not sure if trolling or potato

[629]

how long do you guys figure it will take before it is found? will they within 24 hrs?

They've found oil slicks on the water so they have probably narrowed their search area. Still though if it's at the bottom of the ocean what can they really do.

[Mulyark]

View of fuel slicks seen from Vietnamese air force plane on Saturday in the search area for a missing
Malaysia Airlines jetliner carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew members.






Message from control tower

[Muskle]

They've found oil slicks on the water so they have probably narrowed their search area. Still though if it's at the bottom of the ocean what can they really do.

Don't they have submarines capable to scavenge the bottom of the ocean floor where the oil slicks were at?

[gettingstacked]

crazy how they have no clue where it is.

Air France 447 was middle of pacific much more difficult then 200-250km off coast of Vietnam.

Atlantic Ocean Brah

[JBjunior]

Don't they have submarines capable to scavenge the bottom of the ocean floor where the oil slicks were at?

Depth is probably around 6-8000 feet. Military subs normally safely operate at 6-800 feet. Are there small subs that can go to that depth, sure, there is at least one. Is someone willing to spend the money to find a plane that there is no hope of salvaging? Probably not.

[Carbonfibre]

Atlantic Ocean Brah

water depth in said region shallow where plane is lost.

brah.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/NGAViewer/93010.shtml

[cromofo]

Depth is probably around 6-8000 feet. Military subs normally safely operate at 6-800 feet. Are there small subs that can go to that depth, sure, there is at least one. Is someone willing to spend the money to find a plane that there is no hope of salvaging? Probably not.

don't they have sonars or some **** like that?

[vvvaaa]

Depth is probably around 6-8000 feet. Military subs normally safely operate at 6-800 feet. Are there small subs that can go to that depth, sure, there is at least one. Is someone willing to spend the money to find a plane that there is no hope of salvaging? Probably not.

They don't have a choice, if there is a chance to find and recover it they will search for a very long time

[JBjunior]

water depth in said region shallow where plane is lost.

brah.

http://www.charts.noaa.gov/NGAViewer/93010.shtml

Soundings are in meters, so for the most part it is 90-200 feet with some areas around 600-800 feet. Far more shallow than I thought, it depends on where they went down.

[JBjunior]

don't they have sonars or some **** like that?

There is equipment they use to sound the depths. Finding an anomaly like that on the bottom of the ocean, even with having a "small" search area will be very difficult.

[hydraides]

They are required to find the black boxes....ocean depth wont be that much atoll

They will find it soon enough but weird no floating wreckage

[JBjunior]

They don't have a choice, if there is a chance to find and recover it they will search for a very long time

You are right, they will search for a very long time. Hopefully the oil slick is accurate and gives them an idea of where to search and the water depth is shallow. It all depends on resources, the French were willing to expend many resources to locate the wreckage, hopefully Malaysia will do the same.

[ClaudeGiroux]

Don't they have submarines capable to scavenge the bottom of the ocean floor where the oil slicks were at?

sounds way too expensive

[Roflcopterbro]

Even if MH370 landed/crashed in to the ocean surely there would be wreckage???

[Mulyark]

Conspiracy theories spiral around MH370’s disappearance
By LEE SHI-IAN | March 08, 2014

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/m...ce=twitterfeed

Was one of the passengers aboard the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 travelling with a stolen passport? Malaysian authorities have refused to confirm nor deny this report, which has spread like wildfire on the Internet. On godlikeproductions.com, it was posted that 37-year-old Luigi Maraldi who was supposedly aboard MH370, is actually in Thailand. Maraldi contacted his relatives in Italy to inform them that he was safe and sound and currently in Thailand. Apparently, Maraldi had informed Italian authorities in August last year that he had lost his passport.

Maraldi is one of the names which appeared on the passenger manifest for flight MH370, which has been missing since 1.30am.

Deputy Transport Minister Datuk Abdul Aziz Kaprawi was asked about the possibility of terrorism as the cause for MH370's disappearance.

A foreign reporter asked Aziz whether MH370 had been lost due to foul play.

"We cannot reveal too many details about our security," Aziz said. "We have reviewed the closed-circuit television video footage pertaining to passengers and their baggages."

"So far, we are satisfied with everything," he said. However, Aziz said, authorities were not ruling out any possibilities at this juncture. He said search and rescue operations were still ongoing and would continue around the clock.

The Royal Malaysia Air Force is conducting night searching as their aircraft are equipped with night vision facilities. The search area has been widened to include both the east and west coast of Malaysia. "Both the Malaysian and Vietnamese SAR forces are conducting searches in their respective coastal waters." Aziz said authorities were quite sure that MH370 had disappeared at sea.

Regarding the 20km oil slick spotted between Malaysia and Vietnam, Aziz said they had asked Vietnamese authorities about it. "But the Vietnamese authorities have yet to get back to us," he said. Unless there are further developments regarding MH370, the next press briefing will be tomorrow at 9am.

Malaysia Airlines said that the plane had 227 passengers aboard, including two infants, and an all-Malaysian crew of 12. The passengers included 154 citizens from China or Taiwan, 38 Malaysians, seven Indonesians, six Australians, five Indians, four French and three Americans, as well as two citizens each from New Zealand, Ukraine and Canada and one each from Russia, Italy, the Netherlands and Austria. The airline said that it was notifying the next-of-kin of the passengers and crew.

Hundreds of family members gathered in rooms set aside for them at a Beijing hotel, and at least two medical personnel went in to monitor them, reported The New York Times. Boeing said in a statement that it was assembling a team of technical experts to advise the national authorities investigating the disappearance of the aircraft.

Malaysia Airlines said that the plane took off at 12.41am Malaysia time, and that the plane disappeared from air traffic control radar in Subang, a suburb of Kuala Lumpur, at 2.40am. That timeline seemed to suggest that the plane stayed in the air for two hours – long enough to fly not only across the Gulf of Thailand but also far north across Vietnam. But Lindahl of Flightradar 24 said that the last radar contact had been at 1.19am, less than 40 minutes after the flight began.

A Malaysia Airlines spokesman said on Saturday evening that the last conversation between the flight crew and air traffic control in Malaysia had been around 1.30am, but he reiterated that the plane had not disappeared from air traffic control systems in Subang until 2.40am. – March 8, 2014.


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Both the Austrian and Italian passport holders had stolen passports. Both passports were stolen in Thailand. They will be the focus of any terrorism investigation. If the plane continued on 70 minutes after last contact, as tracked by air traffic control, then that suggests it went down off Vietnam.

[Market_Pantry]

Even if MH370 landed/crashed in to the ocean surely there would be wreckage???

its very hard to see at night... even during the day with any sort of waves.

[jumbl]

Even if MH370 landed/crashed in to the ocean surely there would be wreckage???

depends. with the air france flight that went missing, all that indicated a crash was a seat plus some oil....it took another year to find the recording equipment

[Smykowski]

I see within a sea of false emotions and lack of logic others see the turth. Search your feelings and see if you really care about those people. Or is it your imagining someone you KNOW and actually CARE about in that situation. Or maybe youre even thinking of yourself. Our society just expects us to react a certain way when something happens.

Like when my mother died I knew I was supposed to cry so I did. Not because I actually felt emotion, but because it was something everyone else would expect me to do in that situation.

[everglide123]

inb4 conspiracy theorists claim the 2 people flying with the stolen passports were actually CIA/Government people, who blew up the plane.
First of all, if there was a cover-up, they wouldn't use stolen passports of people still alive, they could very easily just create a person 'xin chang' and avoid this problem.

Either:

1. The two people flying with the stolen passports were in the wrong plane at the wrong time, had nothing to do with it going down, it's NOT RARE that people fly with stolen/fake passports. For visa/immigration/drug smuggling/wanted reasons, people fly with stolen passports.

2. The two people flying with the stolen passports were terrorists, and blew up the plane. Which can explain why all communication was lost, pilots instantly died.