Malaysian Airlines flight is missing (BREAKING)

[deerdiary]

So, heres the latest and greatest... The plane was re-routed to the West according to the Maylasians: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/search-wide...r.html#ueTgVxu

This was after they lost com, and very much so disproves the theory that there was a massive depressurization of the cabin leading to the passengers/crew asphyxiating. (and essentially the plane flying until out of fuel)

Fukin WTF? Story keeps getting stranger and stranger. Mind = obliterated.

[Herr13]

TWA 800 was not hit by a missile...the fuel air mixture ignited. Numerous third parties interviewed the witnesses and what they described was not a missile.

"More than 150 credible witnesses - including several scientists and
business executives - have told the FBI and military experts they saw a
missile destroy TWA 800. 'Some of these people are extremely, extremely
credible,' a top federal official said. 'When we asked what they saw and
where they saw it, the witnesses out east pointed to the west, and the
people to the west pointed to the east'."
- The New York Post, September 22, 1996.


"We know what we saw. We weren't drunk. I looked up and my immediate
response was, I never saw an alert flare like that. It was projecting upward
with a stream of smoke behind. I don't think our accounts will be reflected
in the final version [of the FBI report]. I have a hard time believing that
the FBI believes its conclusions. I don't believe that the truth is ever
going to come out."
- Jim Naples, Flight 800 eye-witness; November 24, 1997, The New York
Observer, (p.16

we've had class discussions about it. the students all thought the official story was bs and the teachers believe it was shot down.

[Bobman84]

I'm sick of people bringing up that air france crash from a few years ago. That was TOTALLY different, the plane sent distress signals, they knew it crashed into the ocean, they just had to find it. Even that didn't take long, in a far more wide open and dangerous part of the ocean.

AF447 and this will be the 2 largest events in the last 5+ years of aviation safety though & both involved modern aircraft (competing models) from well respected carriers carrying passengers from various countries.

Both have/had an incredible search effort/response from many countries.

However, yes this is becoming one of the most mysterious aviation events of our time. I'm positive we will have something by the end of the week, it's so bizarre and tfw everyone around the world is constantly refreshing their phone/browser for updates.

[chlaxman]

I'm sick of people bringing up that air france crash from a few years ago. That was TOTALLY different, the plane sent distress signals, they knew it crashed into the ocean, they just had to find it. Even that didn't take long, in a far more wide open and dangerous part of the ocean.

The thing about this plane is it just disappeared... no warning, no distress signals, with all the technology on these planes is incredible, it's just gone

The ACARS sent some data but there was no distress call. They didn't know it had been lost until it didn't show up on Senegalese control.

And it still took 5 days to find the wreckage.

[absntraps69]

this is why I will only fly with american pilots

[bmx045]

this is why I will only fly with american pilots

GOAT pilot for sure

[Bobman84]

we've had class discussions about it. the students all thought the official story was bs and the teachers believe it was shot down.

I'm in Australia and was 12 when it happened & remember it well as it was huge news down here too. Images of the floating pieces and the bay on fire were surreal.

I don't think anyone can say with 100% certainty what happened, but centre fuel tanks have exploded before in similar circumstances and the effort to rebuild the wreckage was unbelievable. They use it for training NTSB staff now I believe & the investigation was one of the most intensive from the agency.

[mattadams87]

I strongly beleive the plane was hijacked and shot down by a fighter. Its understandable why they would do this and also understandable why they would cover it up. I have already seen a few videos soon after the crash were smaller craft can been seen on radar closely tailing the 777 just before its dissappearance.

[basement iron]

"More than 150 credible witnesses - including several scientists and
business executives - have told the FBI and military experts they saw a
missile destroy TWA 800. 'Some of these people are extremely, extremely
credible,' a top federal official said. 'When we asked what they saw and
where they saw it, the witnesses out east pointed to the west, and the
people to the west pointed to the east'."
- The New York Post, September 22, 1996.


"We know what we saw. We weren't drunk. I looked up and my immediate
response was, I never saw an alert flare like that. It was projecting upward
with a stream of smoke behind. I don't think our accounts will be reflected
in the final version [of the FBI report]. I have a hard time believing that
the FBI believes its conclusions. I don't believe that the truth is ever
going to come out."
- Jim Naples, Flight 800 eye-witness; November 24, 1997, The New York
Observer, (p.16

we've had class discussions about it. the students all thought the official story was bs and the teachers believe it were shot down.

Eyewitness testimony is unreliable, it's one one of the lowest forms of evidence. Mostly due to the fact that people are in general poor observers.

Take the supposed missile launch that thousands of people in California thought they saw a few years ago one evening which was all over the news for a week. That turned out to be a passenger plane heading towards the coast with its contrail lit up by the setting sun. This gave the illusion of a missile/rocket going straight up. I'm sure there were lots of credible witness in that group too.

There is no such thing as a professional observer. People make poor observations all the time, and they do it in masses too.

[bmx045]

what rustled my jimmies about the 447 crash was that the plane was at 100% thrust at the moment it hit the ground, and was only going ~100 knots forward. they literally dropped like a brick with the nose pointed up

[chlaxman]

"More than 150 credible witnesses - including several scientists and
business executives - have told the FBI and military experts they saw a
missile destroy TWA 800. 'Some of these people are extremely, extremely
credible,' a top federal official said. 'When we asked what they saw and
where they saw it, the witnesses out east pointed to the west, and the
people to the west pointed to the east'."
- The New York Post, September 22, 1996.


"We know what we saw. We weren't drunk. I looked up and my immediate
response was, I never saw an alert flare like that. It was projecting upward
with a stream of smoke behind. I don't think our accounts will be reflected
in the final version [of the FBI report]. I have a hard time believing that
the FBI believes its conclusions. I don't believe that the truth is ever
going to come out."
- Jim Naples, Flight 800 eye-witness; November 24, 1997, The New York
Observer, (p.16

we've had class discussions about it. the students all thought the official story was bs and the teachers believe it was shot down.

There was an upward trajectory because the plane was ascending...

No one is saying those people are lying, just that what they witnessed was not consistent with a missile and was consistent with the fuel ignition. No radar contacts intersected with the airplane.

[bremer45]

Lol at all the conspiracy theorists coming out. Clearing the plane lost communication and tried to back track to airport to emergency land. Plane must have gone way off track. I presume the pilots navigation failed and plane crashed way of course somewhere.

[chlaxman]

what rustled my jimmies about the 447 crash was that the plane was at 100% thrust at the moment it hit the ground, and was only going ~100 knots forward. they literally dropped like a brick with the nose pointed up

Even worse, its not the first time that's happened.

"Hey guys we're falling at 10 000 feet per minute with nose up 15�+ and full throttle...wonder what could be happening..."

[Volta55]

god damnit i want to watch that movie now so alpha

[G0S9G]

Assuming the sensor functions yes, that means absolutely nothing if the cockpit has depressurized and the pilots sensor has failed and/or they misdiagnose the problem like that Helios Airlines flight did a decade ago. Pilots with hypoxia aren't sending out any mayday.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

That flight^ had time for a mayday but then disregarded engineer assistance and passed out because the idiots misdiagnosed a pressure warning and not one of them bothered to mask up. It's not too hard to imagine numerous similar situations involving a power failure or pressure circuit malfunction which ends the same but without the distress call.

Not talking about the example you gave, but from how I understand it, if there is a small ish hole in the plane that causes a depressurization there is a chance that everyone is unconscious before the gages reach the threshold for the masks to drop.

So they lost comm...but didn't know how to operate a basic compass??

Well, something was obviously wrong with the plane so likely they rerouted to try and get back to land and find a landing spot. However, with no comms and it being dark it's quite plausible they got lost.

Fukin WTF? Story keeps getting stranger and stranger. Mind = obliterated.

Yeah man it's definitely interesting... Just when I thought that I had read the correct answer to this mystery, this gets released. It seemed at the time that a slow asphyixiation and damage to the coms was the likely answer and that the plane flew until out of fuel.

Gonna be interesting to see how this ends up.

[Midgetkiller]

I hope we had some good people on that plane, first contact with aliens... You only get to make one first impression brahs.

[P3nguin]

Earlier on Tuesday, Malaysia's Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the Malaysia Airlines plane was last detected by military radar at 2:40 A.M. on Saturday, near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying at a height of about 9,000 metres, he was quoted as saying.

If the reports from the military are verified, it would mean the plane was able to maintain a cruising altitude and flew for about 500 km with its transponder and other tracking systems apparently switched off.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.579123

Weird as fuk, looks like it may have had some major failure then had a slow decent?

[bmx045]

Not talking about the example you gave, but from how I understand it, if there is a small ish hole in the plane that causes a depressurization there is a chance that everyone is unconscious before the gages reach the threshold for the masks to drop.



Well, something was obviously wrong with the plane so likely they rerouted to try and get back to land and find a landing spot. However, with no comms and it being dark it's quite plausible they got lost.



Yeah man it's definitely interesting... Just when I thought that I had read the correct answer to this mystery, this gets released. It seemed at the time that a slow asphyixiation and damage to the coms was the likely answer and that the plane flew until out of fuel.

Gonna be interesting to see how this ends up.

even with rapid decompression you still have many seconds to be coherent enough to grab the oxygen masks. a slower decompression will give you even more time. the threshold is set when the pressure gets below life sustaining/significant deoxygenation of the blood, it would be fully potato to set the threshold to drop the masks after the baro pressure is lower than life sustaining. lol.


I can confirm, I perform high altitude simulation exercises in the hospital where I'm able to simulate oxygen content at thousands of feet above sea level.

[CroForce]

Fact that phones are still ringing blows my mindd.

[brumbleman]

Eyewitness testimony is unreliable, it's one one of the lowest forms of evidence. Mostly due to the fact that people are in general poor observers.

Take the supposed missile launch that thousands of people in California thought they saw a few years ago one evening which was all over the news for a week. That turned out to be a passenger plane heading towards the coast with its contrail lit up by the setting sun. This gave the illusion of a missile/rocket going straight up. I'm sure there were lots of credible witness in that group too.

There is no such thing as a professional observer. People make poor observations all the time, and they do it in masses too.

There was an upward trajectory because the plane was ascending...

No one is saying those people are lying, just that what they witnessed was not consistent with a missile and was consistent with the fuel ignition. No radar contacts intersected with the airplane.

imdb.com/title/tt3040528/



Its worth the watch if things of this nature (conspiracies) rustle thy jim-jams.

[N0rds]

Fact that phones are still ringing blows my mindd.

Source.

[deezd]

I hope we had some good people on that plane, first contact with aliens... You only get to make one first impression brahs.

finally someone with common sense

[Anthony.b]

As for the phones, if they have call forwarding on, it will still "ring". Same thing happened with the France flight.

[Fruity Snacks]

Fact that phones are still ringing blows my mindd.

any source on this?

[bmx045]

any source on this?

www.google.com

[StUck686]

any source on this?

like every website

[chlro]

any source on this?

news.yahoo.com/phones-mh370-passengers-ringing-online-accounts-active-claim-094630904.html#fFHsnxG

[RipedRX]

Aliens abducted the airplane into another dimension! SOUNDS CRAZY?? Well...... it sounds crazy that an airplane vanished into thin air, no trace of it... go figure

[Trequartista]

i am almost convinced of highjacking now

the plane would not turn around if they lost communication as they would not be able to communicate with the air traffic controller that they came from, so that would be a useless thing to do

then we have the observer who saw it flying low and then the second observer who saw it flying low 15 minutes later, tells me it was trying to avoid radar and not dropping out of the sky

[pmoney14]

i am almost convinced of highjacking now

the plane would not turn around if they lost communication as they would not be able to communicate with the air traffic controller that they came from, so that would be a useless thing to do

then we have the observer who saw it flying low and then the second observer who saw it flying low 15 minutes later, tells me it was trying to avoid radar and not dropping out of the sky

and it got shut down to avoid 9/11 part 2