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    it highly depends on what institution, and what field these degrees are. if you think a tier 3 JD is on the same planet as a top 25 STEM PhD

    ...son...

    The average IQ of an MD is 120. The average IQ of a JD is 113. The average IQ of a college professor in non-STEM is 115. The average IQ of a STEM professor is 140. So there's your answer, buckaroos.

    We tended to look down our noses at the MD students because they learn their material by rote, while we learn our material by critical thinking and using our brain from time to time.
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    Physics PhD is GOAT. Doctors are money grubbing, spiritless *******s who have no passion in life other than making money.
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    Originally Posted by AnotherScorpion View Post
    how about MBA and CPA?
    CPA > MBA

    unless MBA is top 10
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    MD>DDS>JD>PhD

    PhD in sociology etc., lol pls go.
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    Originally Posted by BrocepCurls View Post
    MD>DDS>PhD>JD(wtf is a JD)

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    JD = Lawyer .. alpha job but on avg earns less than your avg DDS.
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    Originally Posted by QuarterRepCurls View Post
    Ph.D if engineering or physics/chem > MD > DDs > JD
    I have a Chem PhD but would likely respect the qualifications of MD's and DDS's more than my own
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    Originally Posted by Rayzor84 View Post
    Dental school isn't all that difficult to get into.

    Proving a thesis can be time consuming and take alot of time though. Again if its a science phd. I cant be bothered to give a chit if someone tells me they have a phd in something useless.
    Ah it's probably because I was thinking of canadian dental schools. Most Canadian dental schools require at least 3.9+ GPA before they give you a chance for an interview.
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    MD (from American and Canadian schools only)
    DDS
    JD from Yale, Harvard, other top 5, maybe top 10 schools.
    PhD STEM
    Phd non STEM
    JD

    I knew somebody with an MD, DDS, AND a Phd. I think he had an MPH also.
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    Originally Posted by benrhyno1989 View Post
    I have a Chem PhD but would likely respect the qualifications of MD's and DDS's more than my own
    phd @ 25. Good job dave man. If grad school wasnt so expensive, i would have gone back a long time ago. How much money did you spend on your post undergrad career?


    Originally Posted by sturmgewehr88 View Post

    I knew somebody with an MD, DDS, AND a Phd.
    wtf. did he go to school in US? thats impressive.
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    THe majority of PhDs are in useless crap. OP edit your post and split PhD into STEM PhD and PhD, srs.
    Theoretical physics PhD takes shyts on literature, or some other basketweaving PhD.

    Actually just put STEM PhD, cause regular PhDs are worth nothing and will always be last anyway.
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    Originally Posted by athrun340 View Post
    phd @ 25. Good job dave man. If grad school wasnt so expensive, i would have gone back a long time ago. How much money did you spend on your post undergrad career?
    Iuno about the UK, but in the US you get paid to do ur PhD. I get 18k pre-tax right now while in my program.
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    Originally Posted by paradux View Post
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    PhD here. MD obviously has more prestige.

    Edit: type of PhD also matters
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    Originally Posted by sturmgewehr88 View Post
    MD (from American and Canadian schools only)
    DDS
    JD from Yale, Harvard, other top 5, maybe top 10 schools.
    PhD STEM
    Phd non STEM
    JD

    I knew somebody with an MD, DDS, AND a Phd. I think he had an MPH also.
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    Originally Posted by FreeRadicals View Post
    MD>DDS>JD>PhD

    PhD in sociology etc., lol pls go.
    "biology" isn't really a field. ecology is naturally not going to be as hard as molecular or genetics or dev bio, and biochem and bioinformatics can get pretty insane.
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    Originally Posted by stevedarsh View Post
    it highly depends on what institution, and what field these degrees are. if you think a tier 3 JD is on the same planet as a top 25 STEM PhD

    ...son...

    The average IQ of an MD is 120. The average IQ of a JD is 113. The average IQ of a college professor in non-STEM is 115. The average IQ of a STEM professor is 140. So there's your answer, buckaroos.

    We tended to look down our noses at the MD students because they learn their material by rote, while we learn our material by critical thinking and using our brain from time to time.
    Yeah, but the majority of people, they don't know what any of the programs are like. So they just go with money=prestige. MD, you just have to learn what they tell you to learn. Just need a brain and hard work. Same with the other ones. PhD, you have to learn and then perform and create. Only people who are doing these will understand, the majority will always think that MD and JD are highest because of pay.
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    Originally Posted by athrun340 View Post
    phd @ 25. Good job dave man. If grad school wasnt so expensive, i would have gone back a long time ago. How much money did you spend on your post undergrad career?
    Nothing at all, I got paid like £13.5k/yr, had no tuition fees (got a scholarship for getting a 1st class undergrad degree). Kind of like a chitty paid job for 3 years that gives you a nice title at the end


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    Iuno about the UK, but in the US you get paid to do ur PhD. I get 18k pre-tax right now while in my program.
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    Just looked up the facts of DDS admissions; jesus I am out of touch.

    Did not realize how hard it was to get in (relatively); they must place a premium on my school's "leftovers" or something. Plenty of kids w/ low or sub 3.0 GPAs got into a decent dental school in my year.
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    US schooling only, starting with highest: Dual MD/PhD "the true doctors", PhD from a top tier in STEM, MD medicine, JD from top 14, MBA from top 20, PhD in non STEM from top tier, DO medicine, PhD in low tier STEM/nonSTEM, DDS and other professional degrees, > > MBA from low tier > > > > > JD from low tier.

    *Caveat (apply to all above): a degree from a higher ranked school ie Harvard supersedes a similarly top tier but lower ranked school like Northwestern in that same degree. Also, I'd place a DDS from UPenn in a similar reputation as law in t14, otherwise I don't really give much academic prestige to DDS/PharmD/DpT, etc regardless of salary. Didn't care to list Masters in other fields, but you can infer from the list above. Basically, your terminal degree should be from an Ivy or similar prestige.

    I rank PhDs somewhat high because they are the real "doctors", actually having done research, publication, defense of thesis, etc. You don't call a lawyer a doctor even though he has a juris doctorate. Dual MDs/PhD holders sh*t on everybody.

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    most difficult? or best pay? or both?

    MD wins in all categories obviously.

    pay: MD > DDS > Phd stem > JD > Phd non stem
    difficulty: MD > Phd stem > DDS > JD > Phd non stem
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    Originally Posted by Blax0r View Post
    Just looked up the facts of DDS admissions; jesus I am out of touch.

    Did not realize how hard it was to get in (relatively); they must place a premium on my school's "leftovers" or something. Plenty of kids w/ low or sub 3.0 GPAs got into a decent dental school in my year.
    UK dental admissions criteria (grades, extracurriculars, interview) are identical to medicine. We even take the same aptitude test (UKCAT, equivalent as your MCAT) as the medics do, and people often say dental school is harder
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    Originally Posted by inq View Post
    Dual MD/PhD "the true doctors", PhD from a top tier in STEM, JD from top 14, MBA from top 20, PhD in non STEM from top tier, DO medicine, PhD in low tier STEM/nonSTEM, DDS and other professional degrees, > > MBA from low tier > > > > > JD from low tier.

    *Caveat (apply to all above): a degree from a higher ranked school ie Harvard supersedes a similarly top tier but lower ranked school like Northwestern in that same degree. Also, I'd place a DDS from UPenn in a similar reputation as law in t14, otherwise I don't really give much acafemix prestige to DDS/PharmD/DpT, etc.

    I rank PhDs somewhat high because they are the real "doctors", actually having done research, publication, defense of thesis, etc. You don't call a lawyer a doctor even though he has a juris doctorate. Dual MDs/PhD holders sh*t on everybody.
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    Way too much variation within the degrees outside of MD to rank them. PhD (PhD in Russian History or PhD in Nuclear Physics?), or JD (Some slimeball pitching **** on public access or the district attorney?).
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    Originally Posted by Blax0r View Post
    Just looked up the facts of DDS admissions; jesus I am out of touch.

    Did not realize how hard it was to get in (relatively); they must place a premium on my school's "leftovers" or something. Plenty of kids w/ low or sub 3.0 GPAs got into a decent dental school in my year.
    I don't know how hard it is to get into dental school in the states. But in Canada, you need higher GPA than average med applicants to get into dental school lol.
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    Originally Posted by Hockeyaus33 View Post
    Fun fact! There are 24 different ways you could rank these!
    4 factorial, cute
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    because it's common for top PIs.. MD&PhD,

    then MD, PhD, JD, DDS..
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    Originally Posted by stevedarsh View Post
    MD/PhDs are crazy people.
    this. dated one...never again.

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    UK dental admissions criteria (grades, extracurriculars, interview) are identical to medicine. We even take the same aptitude test (UKCAT, equivalent as your MCAT) as the medics do, and people often say dental school is harder
    This x2. Our curriculum is actually more time consuming and difficult, even here in the states. Reality is, they get their practice in AFTER they get their degrees. We get grades, whereas most MD programs are P/F since their board exams determine the specialty MDs will enter. Same material is taught to DMD ad MD students first year. Brb National Boards
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