I developed a bad back injury 4 months ago (Slipped disc), and I'm going therapy, having treatments...etc
I can't workout AT ALL right now, I lost massive amount of weight, and looking forward to gain some back through diet and without working out until I finish my treatment and getting back to the gym again.
So is it possible to do so by eating on a 200 calories surplus? or does it require muscle contraction etc? keep in mind I can't even do home exercises for now whatsoever.
Would love to build back a solid base until I can lift again in a month or 2.
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03-07-2014, 08:08 AM #1
Can I build muscle mass through diet WITHOUT working out?
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03-07-2014, 08:12 AM #2
Lots of people notice leaning out and adding some muscle mass when eating a very high fat diet. I just got an IR sauna and was reading that it boosts growth hormone significantly for a few hours after using it. Apparently injured athletes use saunas to help maintain their muscle mass when they can't work out. Might be worth trying if you have access to a sauna.
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03-07-2014, 08:15 AM #3
I'm not sure if you won't be able to build any, literally speaking, but it will be primarily fat I'm pretty sure.
Muscle mass is not a priority for your body, it would rather store adipose tissue as energy reserves. As well, if you consider the concept of hypertrophy, I don't see how the muscles would grow without the consistent addition of stress on them.
I may be wrong, I'm just thinking logically, so someone please correct me if I am.
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03-07-2014, 08:15 AM #4
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03-07-2014, 08:16 AM #9No brain, no gain.
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03-07-2014, 08:21 AM #11
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Increased weight correlates with increased lean body mass and increased adiposity, though not at a 1:1 ratio of course.
In fact, many obese people, especially morbidly obese folks, who never lift a weight will carry more lean body mass, height adjusted, than lean folks who have been lifting weight properly for many years.
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03-07-2014, 08:23 AM #12
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03-07-2014, 08:52 AM #13
Appreciate the quick and detailed responses guys.
When I got injured, I was depressed, and in those 4 months I lost nearly ALL my gains, so I can't maintain as some of you suggested.
I think I might be able to workout again in 2 months, but I'm down to 160 pounds now, I want to be at least 170, and I don't want all those 10 pounds to be fat of course, otherwise it's not worth it.
From my understanding through your comments I won't be able to, it's just the normal increase of muscle/fat of a normal person..right?
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03-07-2014, 11:15 AM #14
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03-07-2014, 08:06 PM #16
I appreciate the responses you guys have given me.
I will just have to hit my TDEE for now, and hopefully get back to the gym ASAP.
Thanks again.“One of the greatest experiences in life is achieving personal goals that others said would be, ‘impossible to attain.’ Be proud of your success and share your story with others.” -Robert Cheeke
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03-08-2014, 04:16 AM #17
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Last edited by Celtic8Laoch; 03-08-2014 at 05:09 AM.
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03-08-2014, 04:41 AM #18
Can't you just sit on your butt and do biceps ? Or leg extention, or arms extention with weights while lying down ? or light machine bench press while lying down on it ? or triceps kick back with light weight, swimming maybe with proper technique to help your back ? What do you mean you cannot train at all. This is redicules. So you can only walk around and that's it ? Then DIE !
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03-08-2014, 05:21 AM #22
The answer is yes, eating in a surplus is anabolic in it self, however any lean mass gained would be so insignificant you wouldn't even notice, especially considering you'd be packing on far more adipose tissue then anything.
Take for example, someone who is "skinny fat", this is the result of a small surplus over a prolonged time without any actual physical training."The reason why we struggle with insecurity is because we compare our behind the scenes with everyone else's highlight reel."
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03-10-2014, 10:20 AM #25
I can't do ANY strengthening exercises for the time being no, my back, left butt cheek are utterly spasmed because when I got injuried I stopped working out all of a sudden from lifting really heavy to nothing (or could be for a different reason my doctor said), so until I get better I don't want my body to be worse..
lol..I disagree for so many reasons
Thanks, I actually agree with you..I don't think there's a way out of it now except to lose weight and start all over again when the pain is over
Thanks for your input NG, hope all is well“One of the greatest experiences in life is achieving personal goals that others said would be, ‘impossible to attain.’ Be proud of your success and share your story with others.” -Robert Cheeke
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Also op its easier to retain muscle in maintenance or a slight surplus than eating in a deficit so keep that in mind also.
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03-10-2014, 01:22 PM #30
my current problem isn't about retaining muscle, it's about MAKING muscle.
When I got injured, I got depressed, stopped eating properly (due to lack of appetite as well) so I lost nearly everything I made..so I wanted to gain some back for when I get back to the gym“One of the greatest experiences in life is achieving personal goals that others said would be, ‘impossible to attain.’ Be proud of your success and share your story with others.” -Robert Cheeke
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