Sonnen: Due to ramifications of ban of 'substance', 'I may have to stop the sport'

[itsRyan]

Following the recent ban on a certain 'substance' by the Nevada State Athletic Commission, and subsequently the UFC, known 'substance' user Chael Sonnen spoke about the ramifications of the announcement on Wednesday's episode of UFC Tonight, as well as Vitor Belfort's decision to drop out of a middleweight title fight at UFC 173.

"There's a lot of moving parts. I don't have all the answers," Sonnen said. "The bottom line is a certain substance is out. Now, as it relates to Vitor, I think this was a very genuine and sincere thing for him. Here's the problem that I have: a fighter that said seven days ago, ‘I need a certain substance or I can't do this,' and then all of a sudden goes, ‘Well, I'll just stop the substance.' I find that very disingenuous.

"I am potentially in that same field. If this retires guys, then it retires guys. The rules are the rules, and the rules need to be followed. Personally, sorry to be long winded about this, but I'm going through this myself, where I've had to stop a certain substance with the hope that we can find a new way to gain the results of upping a certain hormone to stay at a healthy level. If it doesn't work, I may have to stop the sport. And it's as simple as that."

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/3/5/...ve-to-stop-the

[Boffothe]

"Without my medicine, my body has begun to undergo a strange phenomenon called 'aging'. This condition might require me to retire as I push 40 years old. "

[itsRyan]

"Without taking my medicine, body has begun to undergo a strange phenomenon called 'aging'. This condition might require me to retire as I push 40 years old. "

You can't say the t word and are gonna get the thread deleted, dummy.

[matpal]

Some guys can cash in on the genetic lottery. Others are stuck where they are. Ironically, this does the exact opposite of what is intended by "creating a level playing field".

[Boffothe]

You can't say the t word and are gonna get the thread deleted, dummy.

You're right, but don't quote it then ya silly! ^_^

[itsRyan]

Some guys can cash in on the genetic lottery. Others are stuck where they are. Ironically, this does the exact opposite of what is intended by "creating a level playing field".

I never thought of it like that. Good point. If they wanted everything to be level everyone would be on a certain substance and keep everyone at the same level to make it equal.

Good post.

[ftwrestler]

any time a committee does something it ****s up the thing it was trying to do

proof: every committee ever.

look i get that people think it is cheating, or it is unsafe, but (delete my comment if i go too far), but it is unsafe for them NOT to do it. Im sure injury rate will go up (which is a huge thing people complain about). recovery time goes waaaaaaay up. It allow fighters to maintain fighting shape and be ready to fight more often (another thing people hate). it is just safer all around it to be allowed.

[RussianGerman]

This guy is so annoying. Here he is again, rearing his ugly head as he stands shouting on his political soapbox.

Guy needs to just stfu. Very things to analytical with him...he's such a nerd.

[John L]

Sounds fair to me. He can still use his banned substance, he just can't compete on it. I've been sick of this guy for a long time anyway so good riddance.

[Clense]

Sonnen will fight three more big fights outside Vegas and call it quits

[Petorius12]

with all the sonnen nutthugging that goes on here i really didnt think anyone would post this news lol

vitor/overeem/bigfoot do it and people bring out the pitchforks, criticizing every aspect of their careers, but not chael. not sweet innocent chael. hes funny, so we totally dont mind if he may have used PEDS a lil bit

[jamez123]

I've been sick of this guy for a long time anyway so good riddance.

so much this.

[chroneos]

Better not pull out of the fight with wand...

[scooterbrah]

Better not pull out of the fight with wand...

this has been my concern. they pulled vitor from his fight but didnt pull chael yet. iirc chaels fight is only a week later than vitors was.

[scooterbrah]

lol is your nick inspired by that UG guy who got his ass verbally handed to him by hendo ?

lol no. long story short, when i decided to join here i asked some brahs on my main forum to pick a name for me and they picked this. just so happened that this weird african american guy on that forum was talking about his scooter at the time. its dumb but it is what it is

[Workout4ever]

when it's your time to go due to aging.....you should go.

[itsRyan]

Thanks guys for saying those special three letter words. The thread will be deleted soon.

[AirJordanB]

lmfao chael.. up front and honest? not attempting to cover up? Maybe you magically forgot all the events that happened after he pissed hot after the first silva fight? Fuggin hilarious how short memories are.

No, I remember how ridiculously high his levels were. My point was more that Chael is acknowledging the issues and admitting his need for the treatment while Vitor not only said he would drop the treatment for a title shot, but he's just going to fight clean now with no issue. He basically admitted that he didn't need it. Are they both cheaters? No doubt, but Chael brings a bit of transparency while Vitor was clearly cheating the system the entire time

Thanks guys for saying those special three letter words. The thread will be deleted soon.

And this. Read the sticky, guys.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=160435621

[Workout4ever]

What if he naturally has dangerously low testosterone levels and it has nothing to do with him getting close to the 'older' years of his career?

I don't think it's fair for a guy like Chael, who's never been popped for steroids, to be disallowed TRT usage when he might legitimately need it for the sake of a normal quality of life.

well then that's his genetics/bad luck

is it fair? no, but what is fair?

is it fair jon jones has a reach advantage over everyone? no

[Rain50]

lmfao chael.. up front and honest? not attempting to cover up? Maybe you magically forgot all the events that happened after he pissed hot after the first silva fight? Fuggin hilarious how short memories are.

Guess his "I'll DIE IF I DONT HAVE TRT" honesty has changed to now.. "maybe I won't die lets see how it goes"

What's more hilarious is your lack of knowledge on that situation.

well then that's his genetics/bad luck

is it fair? no, but what is fair?

is it fair jon jones has a reach advantage over everyone? no

you just went 100% potato

[John L]

What if he naturally has dangerously low ************ levels and it has nothing to do with him getting close to the 'older' years of his career?

I don't think it's fair for a guy like Chael, who's never been popped for ********, to be disallowed *** usage when he might legitimately need it for the sake of a normal quality of life.

Dr. Benjamin: Was Chael Sonnen a big time collegiate wrestler? Yes he was. I'm going to opine and say to you, there's no way in the world you get to the level of collegiate wrestling that Chael Sonnen was at, with hypogonadism. Let me explain to you why. Hypogonadism means that the testes did not produce enough ************ for one to normally mature. He wasn't on *** as a teenager. He became this big, muscled up monster and NCAA wrestler with hypogonadism? Hell no.

The truth of the matter is, you could never get to that level, because you're not going to have the muscle mass and strength to get you there. They're going to run you over. Your body will not allow you to develop enough muscle and strength to compete at your size. If he has hypogonadism, it's from one thing, and one thing only, because he treated himself with ******** in the past, and wrecked his testes. That's it.

Stephie Daniels: Once incurred, is that condition a permanent one?

Dr. Benjamin: That's the thing that people don't appreciate. If you use ********, it can harm your testes in a fashion that's permanent. When these guys use ******** to compete, guess what? They're more than likely going to need ******** for the rest of their lives just to be normal, because now they've destroyed or significantly injured their hormone producing glands, your testes, and they're never going to work correctly again.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/6/10...-in-mma-part-2

[scooterbrah]

lol at posting anything dr benjammin says. if you've read anything he has said on mmajunkie for the past several years you'd know he is shill. all he does is throw out his assumptions about these guys and passes them off as fact. he's never treated any of these guys in question yet he seems to think he knows their entire medical histories. he isnt even an endocrinologist.

[John L]

lol at posting anything dr benjammin says. if you've read anything he has said on mmajunkie for the past several years you'd know he is shill. all he does is throw out his assumptions about these guys and passes them off as fact. he's never treated any of these guys in question yet he seems to think he knows their entire medical histories. he isnt even an endocrinologist.

What he says is way more believable than Sonnen's "I never hit puberty" story.

[io31]

What he says is way more believable than Sonnen's "I never hit puberty" story.

There is nothing unbelievable about that. People are so blinded by hatred that they can't give him his due even when he is 100% correct anyway. I mean there are still people out there who think that he didn't get wronged by the ref in the first Filho fight, they still think Sonnen tapped.

[Shmigly]

Sonnen... "never hit puberty" stats 6'1".... hmm

There is nothing unbelievable about that. People are so blinded by hatred that they can't give him his due even when he is 100% correct anyway. I mean there are still people out there who think that he didn't get wronged by the ref in the first Filho fight, they still think Sonnen tapped.

[jamez123]

No, I remember how ridiculously high his levels were. My point was more that Chael is acknowledging the issues and admitting his need for the treatment while Vitor not only said he would drop the treatment for a title shot, but he's just going to fight clean now with no issue. He basically admitted that he didn't need it. Are they both cheaters? No doubt, but Chael brings a bit of transparency while Vitor was clearly cheating the system the entire time

What's more hilarious is your lack of knowledge on that situation.

No...

1. Chael pissed hot. Way over board without ever applying for an exemption to use.
2. Chael proceeded to lie everywhere he could that he had told Kizer he was doing it prior to the fight.

Honesty and integrity.. not even once.
http://www.mmaconvert.com/2011/04/05...n-on-his-lies/

[watertoy]

New occupation for Chael Sonnen.

[WishmasterATM]

You cant say the T word? Lol...

So if I say *******,because that is clearly what Vitor is really on..is ******* illegal to say?

Oh well... this section needs this!

[kathebrahl]

"Without my medicine, my body has begun to undergo a strange phenomenon called 'aging'. This condition might require me to retire as I push 40 years old. "

lol first post nails it
maybe this saves him from further embarrassment

[cgc]

You cant say the T word? Lol...

So if I say *******, because that is clearly what Vitor is really on..is ******* illegal to say?

Oh well... this section needs this!

Pretty much. It's been in the rules for some time, I've just been a letting it slide a bit because it has been such a hot news point in MMA. I double checked myself with the site admin on it and was instructed to inforce the zero tolerance rule for any drug discussion....recreational or PEDs.

Like the rule or not, it is what it is....and it's the reason this thread is so hacked up as I've had to delete MULTIPLE posts.
There is a sticky to make sure everyone was aware of the rules on this.