do you think a wider stance on deadlift helps avoid lower back pain?

[DidNotReadL0L]

the way max chewning pulls is a wider stance. I tried it tonight and it really seemed to take alot of the pressure off the lower back and put more stress on the legs which i prefer to putting pressure on lower back. I'm sure leverages and bodytype come into play as well. thoughts?

[moreweightmate]

Yes, the wider your stance, the more legs come into play. Sumo is very leg dominant and can benefit a strong squatter

[simp3204]

I will take back pain over hip and groin pain any day of the week.

[Dawes]

I will take back pain over hip and groin pain any day of the week.

You don't want proper back pain.

[sheed30]

I will take back pain over hip and groin pain any day of the week.

I've had both. Currently have hip and groin pain and want to kill myself. With back pain, I can force the work out and feel horrible and in pain. With hip and groin pain, I simply cannot train.

[baize82]

WTF is a max chewning?

[runtocatch]

I've had both. Currently have hip and groin pain and want to kill myself. With back pain, I can force the work out and feel horrible and in pain. With hip and groin pain, I simply cannot train.

Exactly!

[dtaps24]

It depends.

[Retardo-pex]

the way max chewning pulls is a wider stance. I tried it tonight and it really seemed to take alot of the pressure off the lower back and put more stress on the legs which i prefer to putting pressure on lower back. I'm sure leverages and bodytype come into play as well. thoughts?

I had a back strain in college right before I got into powerlifting and it made me gun shy on deadlifting. I swapped to sumo and PR'd 3 times that year in competitions, never worried about my lower back while doing so.

The only issue is it is basically moving the stress from the back to the hips and knees like a squat. My hips ended up hating me after a few years of it so I swapped back to conventional deadlift stance.

[simp3204]

You don't want proper back pain.

Never said I did.

I've had both. Currently have hip and groin pain and want to kill myself. With back pain, I can force the work out and feel horrible and in pain. With hip and groin pain, I simply cannot train.

This x1000

[seepatlift]

WTF is a max chewning?

Youtube guy, refers to himself as "Deadlift Brah"

[InspecktaDeck]

Yes, the wider your stance, the more legs come into play. Sumo is very leg dominant and can benefit a strong squatter

lies

[Squats4days]

If you're deadlifting properly you shouldn't have back pain no matter what stance you're lifting in. A wider stance generally is easier on the back but obviously it is working different muscle areas compared to a conventional deadlift. Be sure to stretch well after every workout.

[Fletch1986]

Properly done sumos are easier on the back. Your torso will be more upright so there's less shearing stress and your back muscles don't have to work as hard. Granted, sumo is harder on the hips, hip flexors, and knees so it's pretty much a matter of picking your poison. I choose conventional because of SI issues that occasionally arise and conventional is more friendly to these and I've never had a flexion related back problem. Only hyperextension from push presses where my form turned to ****. And it only took a week to get better so I know my back is sturdier than my posterior hip capsule. Same reason I use Oly shoes for squatting and don't low bar squat often.

[bcop]

the way max chewning pulls is a wider stance. I tried it tonight and it really seemed to take alot of the pressure off the lower back and put more stress on the legs which i prefer to putting pressure on lower back. I'm sure leverages and bodytype come into play as well. thoughts?

Keeping your lower back solidly in extention throughout the lift helps with back pain in the conventional dead lift.

[Fletch1986]

In a perfect conventional vs. a perfect sumo deadlift, there are still higher shearing forces on the spine from conventional.

[Retardo-pex]

If you're deadlifting properly you shouldn't have back pain no matter what stance you're lifting in. A wider stance generally is easier on the back but obviously it is working different muscle areas compared to a conventional deadlift. Be sure to stretch well after every workout.

Has absolutely nothing to due with perfect form or not. Over time your body wears down, period. Most people 30+ have some form of lumbar disc issues whether they actually feel pain from it or not. Now take people who have been training for 10+ years and regularly load up with 3-4x their body weight or simply huge pulls, think about how many 20-30 year old major league pitchers have shoulder issues etc. Form can only keep you going for so long, if you are an athlete you are going to test your limits and sometimes you fail that test by ways other than missing lifts.

[ErikLeeHayes]

the way max chewning pulls is a wider stance. I tried it tonight and it really seemed to take alot of the pressure off the lower back and put more stress on the legs which i prefer to putting pressure on lower back. I'm sure leverages and bodytype come into play as well. thoughts?

The difference I notice when I do sumo is yeah it is more leg dominant, but breaking the weight off the floor is harder for me, where as in conventional breaking it is the easy part and the part before lockout is tougher. Like you said it could be body types, but thats what I notice, and I prefer sumo, because if I can break it I usually can finish it once I get it over my hips.