the way max chewning pulls is a wider stance. I tried it tonight and it really seemed to take alot of the pressure off the lower back and put more stress on the legs which i prefer to putting pressure on lower back. I'm sure leverages and bodytype come into play as well. thoughts?
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03-05-2014, 11:55 PM #1
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do you think a wider stance on deadlift helps avoid lower back pain?
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03-06-2014, 07:06 AM #9
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I had a back strain in college right before I got into powerlifting and it made me gun shy on deadlifting. I swapped to sumo and PR'd 3 times that year in competitions, never worried about my lower back while doing so.
The only issue is it is basically moving the stress from the back to the hips and knees like a squat. My hips ended up hating me after a few years of it so I swapped back to conventional deadlift stance.
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03-06-2014, 12:46 PM #14
Properly done sumos are easier on the back. Your torso will be more upright so there's less shearing stress and your back muscles don't have to work as hard. Granted, sumo is harder on the hips, hip flexors, and knees so it's pretty much a matter of picking your poison. I choose conventional because of SI issues that occasionally arise and conventional is more friendly to these and I've never had a flexion related back problem. Only hyperextension from push presses where my form turned to ****. And it only took a week to get better so I know my back is sturdier than my posterior hip capsule. Same reason I use Oly shoes for squatting and don't low bar squat often.
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03-07-2014, 12:13 PM #17
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Has absolutely nothing to due with perfect form or not. Over time your body wears down, period. Most people 30+ have some form of lumbar disc issues whether they actually feel pain from it or not. Now take people who have been training for 10+ years and regularly load up with 3-4x their body weight or simply huge pulls, think about how many 20-30 year old major league pitchers have shoulder issues etc. Form can only keep you going for so long, if you are an athlete you are going to test your limits and sometimes you fail that test by ways other than missing lifts.
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03-08-2014, 01:47 AM #18
The difference I notice when I do sumo is yeah it is more leg dominant, but breaking the weight off the floor is harder for me, where as in conventional breaking it is the easy part and the part before lockout is tougher. Like you said it could be body types, but thats what I notice, and I prefer sumo, because if I can break it I usually can finish it once I get it over my hips.
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