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    Maybe I'm missing something but why is less adjustability in the bench range a more desireable characteristic? These both seem like good alternatives for the R3 and the Rep Fitness looked like it has a UPS ground shipping option which which I assume would be easier to ship to home addesses. I have a price inquiry into Dynamic to see how much the Gladiator is.
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    Originally Posted by SkolVikings View Post
    Maybe I'm missing something but why is less adjustability in the bench range a more desireable characteristic? These both seem like good alternatives for the R3 and the Rep Fitness looked like it has a UPS ground shipping option which which I assume would be easier to ship to home addesses. I have a price inquiry into Dynamic to see how much the Gladiator is.
    I can see adjusting pin/pipe safeties on 1" spacing being a pain in the ass. My first rack was 3" spacing, my current BWTG rack is 1.75", and I personally have no desire to have anything less than 1.75-2" spacing.
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    I have 1" spacing. I still feel it's over-rated.

    I don't know if I would mind so much if all holes were labeled, but it makes the rack look like swiss cheese.

    I also don't notice any benefit. I never had issues with 1.5" spacing (I find this to be the sweet spot) for either benching, squatting or really any other movement. If pressing / unracking the bar 0.5" to 1.0" more out of the rack is a problem, but we clearly won't agree here.

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    I can see adjusting pin/pipe safeties on 1" spacing being a pain in the ass. My first rack was 3" spacing, my current BWTG rack is 1.75", and I personally have no desire to have anything less than 1.75-2" spacing.
    Oh, they are. The swing-in is even worse. Half the time, it's not level. It's really difficult to eyeball which hole is which when installing them.
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    I have an R3 - I have zero issues with the 1" spacing. I bought a pack of colored electrical tape and I tape next to the holes...blue for bench, white for squat, orange for military presses, etc. Works as the same thing as numbering the holes to me. You can kinda see the tape in my pictures: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1208214161
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    Originally Posted by snova031 View Post
    I can see adjusting pin/pipe safeties on 1" spacing being a pain in the ass. My first rack was 3" spacing, my current BWTG rack is 1.75", and I personally have no desire to have anything less than 1.75-2" spacing.
    Yeah I have 1' spacing.. I put chalk outlines around the holes I use often. It'd be ridiculous otherwise. I like having the 1" for bench.
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    If you have 20-30 people using the rack over the course of a week, how many stickers or pieces of tape would you have on a rack?
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    Originally Posted by thejosef View Post
    Yeah I have 1' spacing.. I put chalk outlines around the holes I use often. It'd be ridiculous otherwise. I like having the 1" for bench.
    I can't wait to get a rack w/ numbered holes (NEVER HAD THIS!). I'd have about 6 chalk lines, so I'd have issues remembering which is which is. Then I'd need chalk lines for the safeties. I hate it.

    If you have specialty bars, there's too many height adjustments. I squat low bar, use bars like the safety squat bar, competition style bench, close grip w/ regular bar, close grip with swiss & they all need their own height, more or less. The 1" actually becomes counter productive as I'd rather press an extra inch than half the change the height of the J-cups for a 2nd or 3rd time.
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    I have numbered holes but I still mark them for different lifts cause I can't remember what everything is.
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    I numbered my holes on my rack, then made a little legend on my whiteboard for what holes I use for whatever exercise.
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    Originally Posted by snova031 View Post
    I numbered my holes on my rack, then made a little legend on my whiteboard for what holes I use for whatever exercise.
    my rack is white so I use it as a whiteboard
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    Originally Posted by Synthetickiller View Post
    I can't wait to get a rack w/ numbered holes (NEVER HAD THIS!). I'd have about 6 chalk lines, so I'd have issues remembering which is which is. Then I'd need chalk lines for the safeties. I hate it.

    If you have specialty bars, there's too many height adjustments. I squat low bar, use bars like the safety squat bar, competition style bench, close grip w/ regular bar, close grip with swiss & they all need their own height, more or less. The 1" actually becomes counter productive as I'd rather press an extra inch than half the change the height of the J-cups for a 2nd or 3rd time.
    I hear ya. Number'd holes would be epic. 3 people use my rack, so it does get a bit messy. Wife has the purple chalk holes, I have blue, etc, etc. I also write "Squat" & "Bench" near the circle holes. Looks kinda tacky. ha
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    Feet plate look a little different...
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    Originally Posted by Bench905 View Post
    I have an R3 - I have zero issues with the 1" spacing. I bought a pack of colored electrical tape and I tape next to the holes...blue for bench, white for squat, orange for military presses, etc. Works as the same thing as numbering the holes to me. You can kinda see the tape in my pictures: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...post1208214161
    Repped for love for the 1" hole spacing. Too many 1" haters here.
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    Originally Posted by thejosef View Post
    Yeah I have 1' spacing.. I put chalk outlines around the holes I use often. It'd be ridiculous otherwise. I like having the 1" for bench.
    Can not rep, on recharge Will rep ASAP for 1" WS spacing appreciation crew.
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    ://mydynamicfitness.com/product/gladiator-power-rack-2x3/?utm_content=buffer88a5f&utm_medium=social&utm_sou rce=********.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Pretty exact copy.
    Got an email back from Guy at Dynamic with a price quote of $649 plus $209 shipping to CT that includes a liftgate. He mentioned the rack comes with numbering. I'm now torn between the Gladiator and the R3 bolt together since they are both about $850-860 shipped.
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    Got an email back from Guy at Dynamic with a price quote of $649 plus $209 shipping to CT that includes a liftgate. He mentioned the rack comes with numbering. I'm now torn between the Gladiator and the R3 bolt together since they are both about $850-860 shipped.
    What kind of numbering? Because that would be quite different from R3.
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    What kind of numbering? Because that would be quite different from R3.
    I have that question back into him along with how much for the dip attachment, custom color, and cut down to 84".
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    I'm not far from Dynamic and have seen their stuff. Guy showed me a couple of different numbering systems on some prototypes but I'm not sure what is used on the full production model. I think they may be laser cut. It would be best to ask him since I could be wrong. This is on their ******** page...

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    Originally Posted by SkolVikings View Post
    Got an email back from Guy at Dynamic with a price quote of $649 plus $209 shipping to CT that includes a liftgate. He mentioned the rack comes with numbering. I'm now torn between the Gladiator and the R3 bolt together since they are both about $850-860 shipped.
    Why aren't you calling Dean and BWTG since he is on Long Island?
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    I numbered my holes on my rack, then made a little legend on my whiteboard for what holes I use for whatever exercise.
    I do this as well. Silver sharpie on black powder coat FTW. I don't have a whiteboard, so I just write on the exposed studs in the garage.
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    Originally Posted by morebarbell View Post
    I'm not far from Dynamic and have seen their stuff. Guy showed me a couple of different numbering systems on some prototypes but I'm not sure what is used on the full production model. I think they may be laser cut. It would be best to ask him since I could be wrong. This is on their ******** page...
    I will say that Guy has been extremely responsive. H said on the Gladiator they have laser cut numbering every 5 holes. Color choice was no additional cost but there was no option to cut the rack down to 84".

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    Why aren't you calling Dean and BWTG since he is on Long Island?
    Valid point. To be honest since I am just starting out I was really only looking at stuff that would keep my meddling hands mostly out of the decision making process.
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    Originally Posted by SkolVikings View Post
    I will say that Guy has been extremely responsive. H said on the Gladiator they have laser cut numbering every 5 holes. Color choice was no additional cost but there was no option to cut the rack down to 84".



    Valid point. To be honest since I am just starting out I was really only looking at stuff that would keep my meddling hands mostly out of the decision making process.
    I bet if you told Dean that, he would just make you something and be done with it.
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    I have the Rep Fitness Fort rack and have been happy with it. I originally wanted the 1" spacing but haven't noticed any issues without it. So far I'm pretty happy with the rack. If I wasn't a few hours away from their location I probably would have order the R3. It would be nice to have the holes numbered but really haven't had any issues if I'm changing lifts and need to move the jhooks around.
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    Wow, those laser cut numbers look great.
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    Originally Posted by SkolVikings View Post
    but there was no option to cut the rack down to 84".
    This is because they don't have holes going all the way up the upright in front (to cut costs). There's a gap with no holes, and cutting it down would require adding more holes. Kind of crappy design, no offense. Adding those holes right off the bat would add maybe $1-2 to each upright. Even less on large batches.
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    This is because they don't have holes going all the way up the upright in front (to cut costs). There's a gap with no holes, and cutting it down would require adding more holes. Kind of crappy design, no offense. Adding those holes right off the bat would add maybe $1-2 to each upright. Even less on large batches.
    They could cut the bottom and bring "up " the base. Like proMaxima did for PaulieG. Search: "Promaxima FW-163 Power rack- Pics and mini review" (I can't post links yet)
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    Originally Posted by Mech6 View Post
    If you have 20-30 people using the rack over the course of a week, how many stickers or pieces of tape would you have on a rack?
    About 7.73.

    Originally Posted by thejosef View Post
    I hear ya. Number'd holes would be epic. 3 people use my rack, so it does get a bit messy. Wife has the purple chalk holes, I have blue, etc, etc. I also write "Squat" & "Bench" near the circle holes. Looks kinda tacky. ha
    Exactly. When I get a new rack, I'll be damned if I don't have laser cut numbers. It's crazy in this day and age not to have milled or laser cut numbers. 1.5" spacing is bad enough, number wise. 1" is a nightmare.

    Originally Posted by Accutron View Post
    Repped for love for the 1" hole spacing. Too many 1" haters here.


    If it works for you, awesome. I just see it as even more holes I won't use.

    I guess if people who like it fall into that line of 1.5 is just a hair off, then 1" works.

    I also have a preference for a larger dowel size. After deaing with TSS & 3/8" dowels, I want nothing less than 1/2" if not 1".
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    It surprises me that they said no to resizing. Maybe it's mostly a matter of price. It was my understanding they also do custom fabrication and powder coating... though it might be a sister company with different management.

    http://www.dynamicfabandfinish.com/

    The photos look like the same building that I visited. Mech, they have an equipment list at that link.
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