why does everyone hate on shrugs

[handegg]

my workout

Squat 5x5
Bench 5x5
Bent over rows 5x5
DB shrugs 3x35
DB overhead press 4X7

people are telling me im wasting time with the shrugs but why

[GeneralSerpant]

Probably because it's an unnatural movement. I heard that the traps aren't supposed to lift anything up on a fixed path.

[oldballs]

my workout

Squat 5x5
Bench 5x5
Bent over rows 5x5
DB shrugs 3x35
DB overhead press 4X7

people are telling me im wasting time with the shrugs but why

I hope that 3 x 35 is a typo. They probably think you are wasting your time putting shrugs in that particular routine, or they are just flapping their lips.

[CagedInSanity]

The problem is how you are putting it in your exercise like above poster said. It's a fine trap workout but why are you putting a random trap isolation exercise in that workout routine??

[Benjo87]

Who hates on shrugs?

[handegg]

The problem is how you are putting it in your exercise like above poster said. It's a fine trap workout but why are you putting a random trap isolation exercise in that workout routine??

to get nice trapezius muscle? what's wrong with adding in shrugs ?

[Oakenfold]

my workout

DB shrugs 3x35

people are telling me im wasting time with the shrugs but why

I do 'em with heavy plates (the gym kind, not the kitchen kind of course...) - one in each hand by your side, then lift 'till your fingers give up :-D

Nothing wrong with shrugs, but 3 sets of 35 does seem excessive. I'd suggest to use more weight and go for 12-15 reps

[LostLlama]

to get nice trapezius muscle? what's wrong with adding in shrugs ?

I would definitely lower the reps and increase the weight - what you are doing now is pointless from a physiological standpoint (why stop at 35reps? why not go for a cool 100??). If you want nice traps, then I would definitely add deadlifts to your routine.

[davisj3537]

You didn't need to make a new thread...I thought you were getting a good dose of truth in your first thread.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=160510201

What specifically is wrong with this "routine"? Balance, progression, volume and frequency...only the four most important parts of a routine. Yours is lacking all 4 of these aspects man. When you don't understand what it takes to make something good you'll never get a good result.

[LostLlama]

What a bastard...

[Itinerus]

The reason everyone hates on shrugs is who the fuk cares what anyone else thinks?

If you try to please the internet you will never get it "right," so you should disregard any internet opinions (or any opinions in general) and just do what actually seems to be working.

People who hate shrugs probably have gay traps unless they do a crapload of ugly rows with huge weight.

Although, people are right to say that your routine is lacking a few things: you need deadlifts, abs and some kind of pull up exercise in there. A bicep and tricep move wouldn't hurt either, but honestly once you've at least got deads/abs/chins nobody here should really cry too much or they're just internet nags.

Squat 5x5
Bench 5x5
Bent over rows 5x5
DB shrugs 3x35
DB overhead press 4X7

[doughnut91]

Heavy dead lifts once a week are enough for most people's traps tbh

[229time]

Most people that want big traps don't hate on them, they may hate doing them.

[Engineer_Guy]

my workout

Squat 5x5
Bench 5x5
Bent over rows 5x5
DB shrugs 3x35
DB overhead press 4X7

people are telling me im wasting time with the shrugs but why

Because you'll get more bang for your buck sticking to compound exercises. Most people get plenty trap work from pulls from the floor and overhead presses.

But if you like what you're doing and it works for you then screw everyone else.

[Retoaded]

I dunno

/shrugs

[kanis999]

Quite honestly, anyone ITT who is saying to just do deadlifts and not isolate the upper traps has decent to great trap genetics. If you don't have good traps you need shrugs. Deadlifts hit the middle and lower portions of the traps way more than the upper portion.

[doughnut91]

Quite honestly, anyone ITT who is saying to just do deadlifts and not isolate the upper traps has decent to great trap genetics. If you don't have good traps you need shrugs. Deadlifts hit the middle and lower portions of the traps way more than the upper portion.

Dunno man, deads for me hit the upper traps just as much, if not more, than the other areas. Even as an isometric contraction. Admittedly I've been fortunate enough to never do any iso work and still have decent traps (about the only part of me that I have been fortunate with)

[kanis999]

Dunno man, deads for me hit the upper traps just as much, if not more, than the other areas. Even as an isometric contraction. Admittedly I've been fortunate enough to never do any iso work and still have decent traps (about the only part of me that I have been fortunate with)

Hmm, well likewise I only have my own story, which is that my upper traps had a concave rather than a convex curve even after getting my deadlift sets for 5's pretty close to 400 lbs. As soon as I started adding shrugs, the curve began to look at least slighty convex

/shrugs

[Engineer_Guy]

Quite honestly, anyone ITT who is saying to just do deadlifts and not isolate the upper traps has decent to great trap genetics. If you don't have good traps you need shrugs. Deadlifts hit the middle and lower portions of the traps way more than the upper portion.

Meh I'd say unless you're a competing BBer you won't even notice a difference in your traps doing shrugs or not, assuming you do the basic compounds like deads and overhead presses as it's impossible to do these lifts without using your traps. Or the difference will be so slight it's not even worth your time or effort since you're not competing anyway.

[davisj3537]

they're just internet nags.

Being an internet nag is what keeps my weiner from going soft:/ lol

[magician27]

if you do 3 sets of 35 on bench, rows and squats and ohp too people are gonna hate on those too. so guess why ? you are probably doing those shrugs with 20 lb dumbels

also why no deadlift , nnothing for harmstrings