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    All I read was "I'm taking 100mg of cope and 1 mcg of major cope. Will come back with results of my coping later!"

    Just shave it off boyos. Move on with your life. It's scary to read some of these posts about how much time, effort, health risk, and money you guys fork over for something that literally means nothing. All it does is fukk you up mentally and possibly physically.

    Take some advice from someone that went through this process for a short time. Move on.
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    I’ve always put off getting on fin due to the horror stories, but apparently one of my good friends is on it. He just casually mentions he is on this pill to stop his hair from falling out. Been on it for years with 0 sides.
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    Originally Posted by xeron View Post
    Daily reminder that the only things that work are:

    finasteride
    minoxidil
    nizoral ketoconazole shampoo

    Things that you might not want to touch, but that work:

    RU58841 (not fda approved, not as well studied)
    dutasteride (nearly full DHT inhibition)

    Anything else you read is broscience and/or trying to take your money
    Damn, Dut sounds pretty good, what are the sides
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    really not sure if i should start fin 0.5mg a day.
    I have the pills ready. My right temple is receded , left is okay, hairlne is thinning and so is crown but not at the point its noticble. My dad was noticably bading at 27 and i'm 25. i know my hair will get worse i wwant to maintain what i have should i start?
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    You can get all of these supplemented nutrients and absorb them better if you just eat whole foods. Bone broth, mushrooms, shellfish, small amounts of seaweed + brazil nuts and plenty of vegetables will give you worlds of better results than eating pills. Always. Also I would like to second the notion that the five-year-long stint of supplement-based health protocol for hair loss (esp. with no progress photos), or any medical concern just seems like a tragic story of running away and being ruled by fear. I may be projecting because I tried pursuing the same finely-tuned-machine vision of health in college using supplements, but this is just the wrong way to go about life. How is it healthy to pay so much attention to individual micronutrients and hyperfocus on how to rebalance your supplement intake to address the ache you felt in your left ankle last night, or the nervousness you felt talking to some girl? Much better to just stop, learn to listen to the body, because it knows what it needs. That just also means you have to actually take care of yourself emotionally, too, because when you learn to listen to your body you can’t just ignore half of what it’s saying. Eat real food, learn to enjoy cooking, exercise, water and get on a good sleep habit, cultivate good relationships with others and spend time with yourself to heal the emotional wounds you’re probably hiding from by running around blind to your intuition, trying to cure yourself of discomfort. Just go full 180 and do the Wim Hof method, man. “TODAY, shut the %&@# up, we’re going up the mountain. LET’S DO THIS”

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    anyone try microneedling using a dermaroller on their head?

    i've seen some pics on hairloss forums and it seems worth a try. even some studies have shown lots of regrowth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3746236/
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    Originally Posted by Bassackwards View Post
    anyone try microneedling using a dermaroller on their head?

    i've seen some pics on hairloss forums and it seems worth a try. even some studies have shown lots of regrowth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3746236/
    yea, i'm getting results with minoxidil and dermarollering. Quite a few new hairs on my forehead. Buy the MT dermaroller, it has real spikes vs the cheap 504 ones. Much nicer on the head. I do a light roll each morning in the shower.
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    Originally Posted by Bassackwards View Post
    anyone try microneedling using a dermaroller on their head?

    i've seen some pics on hairloss forums and it seems worth a try. even some studies have shown lots of regrowth https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3746236/
    I have been doing that for about 6 months or so. Started with the dermaroller and now use the microneedle pen. 1.0 setting every two weeks.

    I've seen results, so i'm going to continue with it.
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    so does OP still spend 3 hours a day taking supplements?
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    Originally Posted by FrontRowEcho View Post
    UPDATE Nov 29:

    It looks like very little zinc is needed. I've lowered the suggestion for Zinc to 15mg ONCE PER WEEK, but may adjust further.

    Selenium can be continued at 200mcg per day.
    I’ll try your protocol mate. A lot of us are quite desperate for an answer to this condition. It’s been a complex battle for many years. If it genuinely works you stand to make money and a positive legacy few ever achieve.
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    Originally Posted by Iakabos View Post
    I’ll try your protocol mate. A lot of us are quite desperate for an answer to this condition. It’s been a complex battle for many years. If it genuinely works you stand to make money and a positive legacy few ever achieve.
    Hey man I'm just making some final tweaks, so I'd suggest holding off for another couple of weeks. It is an incredibly complex problem to resolve, so I'm not surprised nobody has found a solution yet. It took me almost 6 years of working on it to get where I'm at today.
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    What a pain in the ass this is. Who tf is going to go through all this chit.
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    UPDATE Jan 6:

    It's looking like with the addition of Molybdenum and increase in Zinc, Manganese is no longer helpful. So Manganese should be stopped.

    From the previous update; the addition of molybdenum is allowing more zinc to be absorbed, which is why the amount of zinc being taken can be increased (as long as molybdenum is included).

    Current update:

    Manganese NOT NEEDED.

    Add Molybdenum at 500mcg per day (or 1mg every 2 days).

    Increase Zinc to 50mg per day.

    Selenium at 400mcg per day.

    Happy New Year.

    (Edited to include most recent manganese update)
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    Originally Posted by FrontRowEcho View Post
    UPDATE Jan 6:

    It's looking like with the addition of Molybdenum and increase in Zinc that the body is no longer using Manganese. So if you're taking Molybdenum at 500mcg per day, and Zinc at 50mg per day, Manganese can be put on hold. Keep it on hand though if you already have it, as it may still be helpful in smaller amounts. I will be following-up.

    From the previous update; the addition of molybdenum is allowing more zinc to be absorbed, which is why the amount of zinc being taken can be increased (as long as molybdenum is included).

    Current update:

    Manganese NOT NEEDED. (but keep on hand if you already have it)

    Add Molybdenum at 500mcg per day (or 1mg every 2 days).

    Increase Zinc to 50mg per day.

    Selenium at 400mcg per day.

    Happy New Year. Feel free to reach out if you have questions.
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    Post a pic of your hair.
    I will be posting progress pics and more info in the coming weeks/months.
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    Anyone seen those Dr's on youtube saying that finasteride 1mg 3 x a week has good results and no sides?

    Any thoughtso n this? i heard it could be bad as it will flucutate your hormones a lot

    i mean 3mg a week maybe take 0.4 a day? but then how would you cut a pill into 0.4's

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    UPDATE Jan 15:

    It's looking like no more edits to the supplement list are going to be needed. Just a reminder that manganese should be stopped, it seems it may interfere with zinc metabolism when zinc is taken at 50mg per day. I've listed the recent edits below again for reference, the site has the complete list.

    Over the coming weeks/months I plan to start posting a lot more content to the site as well as progress updates/pics. I'll continue to post occasional info on here (along with pics).

    Manganese DO NOT TAKE.

    Molybdenum 500mcg per day.

    Zinc 50mg per day.

    Selenium 200mcg per day.
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    Lol I've been lurking in this thread for like 5 years now, FrontRowEcho is a known troll and NEVER posts pics of his hair or progress. People have been asking him to post pics literally for years. I actually laughed really hard that he still hasn't posted pics, just about sums up this thread.

    The reality is that this entire thread is bullchit and downright dangerous. Either shave it off or risk your dink with fin, you decide. Taking all these pills, iodine, other bs is potentially more dangerous than fin.

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    Originally Posted by FrontRowEcho View Post
    UPDATE Jan 15:

    It's looking like no more edits to the supplement list are going to be needed. Just a reminder that manganese should be stopped, it seems it may interfere with zinc metabolism when zinc is taken at 50mg per day. I've listed the recent edits below again for reference, the site has the complete list.

    Over the coming weeks/months I plan to start posting a lot more content to the site as well as progress updates/pics. I'll continue to post occasional info on here (along with pics).

    Manganese DO NOT TAKE.

    Molybdenum 500mcg per day.

    Zinc 50mg per day.

    Selenium 400mcg per day.
    I dont mean to be rude but come on bro you've been doing this for 5 years and still no pics? not one? you keep updating the dosages and still no pics? no ones after a full nw 4 -nw 1 transformation just something that shows progress in any way shape or form. Youve got a coaching website that you charge people for and you still provide zero pics. why would anyone trust you?
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    Anyone just use zix or zix 2 with microneedling?
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    Originally Posted by sandman2019 View Post
    Anyone seen those Dr's on youtube saying that finasteride 1mg 3 x a week has good results and no sides?

    Any thoughtso n this? i heard it could be bad as it will flucutate your hormones a lot

    i mean 3mg a week maybe take 0.4 a day? but then how would you cut a pill into 0.4's

    hmm

    That sht literally inhibits a naturally occurring male hormone. Not thx, jefe. Transplant, Shave, SMP or Hairpiece are the only ways to go.
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    Originally Posted by RonaldMcflurry View Post
    That sht literally inhibits a naturally occurring male hormone. Not thx, jefe. Transplant, Shave, SMP or Hairpiece are the only ways to go.
    Transplant = finasteride for life
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    I dont mean to be rude but come on bro you've been doing this for 5 years and still no pics? not one? you keep updating the dosages and still no pics? no ones after a full nw 4 -nw 1 transformation just something that shows progress in any way shape or form. Youve got a coaching website that you charge people for and you still provide zero pics. why would anyone trust you?
    Thanks for the message. I haven't yet charged anyone who has connected with me, as I wanted to make sure it was working for everyone first. I have been working on this a looong time, because that's how long it has taken me to figure it out, not because I've been sitting on the solution for 6 years and secretly trying to con people. It's been a hell of a lot of work, so it's a bit frustrating when people call BS without understanding what I've put into it so far, or they have also not tried putting in any work themselves.

    I posted the website less than a year ago, but I've since figured it needed additional tweaks because it wasn't working as fast or as optimally as I knew it could, which is why I made the additional updates in these past few months and put a hold on releasing any additional content. Realistically the changes since I posted the site have been minimal (addition of small amount of selenium and molybdenum), but it was enough to impede strong improvement. In hindsight, I should've waited before posting, but it at least gave me more insight that some pieces were still needed.

    At the very least all I've wanted was to offer a source of more current info beyond the OPs protocol, because his recommendations were definitely not on the right track and much more complicated than what they needed to be. I do encourage everyone to be diligent and do their own research/work. I also think it's counter-productive to discourage people like me from putting a lot of their free time and effort into figuring this all out because we're all working towards the same goal.

    Anyways, I will continue at it and I do plan to post a lot more content as well as pics that you're waiting for. If this does happen to blow-up at some point, I want to make sure I've built it on a solid foundation, so I am obligated to work at my own pace. Feel free to connect if you want to discuss more, as I'm always happy to.
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    Originally Posted by RonaldMcflurry View Post
    That sht literally inhibits a naturally occurring male hormone. Not thx, jefe. Transplant, Shave, SMP or Hairpiece are the only ways to go.
    Yea what' the point of having said male hormone if you're balding manlet nad no women want to date u?
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    Originally Posted by FrontRowEcho View Post
    Thanks for the message. I haven't yet charged anyone who has connected with me, as I wanted to make sure it was working for everyone first. I have been working on this a looong time, because that's how long it has taken me to figure it out, not because I've been sitting on the solution for 6 years and secretly trying to con people. It's been a hell of a lot of work, so it's a bit frustrating when people who've done no research call BS without even knowing what I've put into it so far, and they have also not tried to work out the solution for themselves.

    I posted the website less than a year ago, but I've since figured it needed additional tweaks because it wasn't working as fast or as optimally as I knew it could, which is why I made the additional updates in these past few months and put a hold on releasing any additional content. Realistically the changes since I posted the site have been minimal (addition of small amount of selenium and molybdenum), but it was enough to impede strong improvement. In hindsight, I should've waited before posting, but it at least gave me more insight that some pieces were still needed.

    At the very least all I've wanted was to offer a source of more current info beyond the OPs protocol, because his recommendations were definitely not on the right track and much more complicated than what they needed to be. I do encourage everyone to be diligent and do their own research/work. I also think it's counter-productive to discourage people like me from putting a lot of their free time and effort into figuring this all out because we're all working towards the same goal.

    Anyways, I will continue at it and I do plan to post a lot more content as well as pics that you're waiting for. If this does happen to blow-up at some point, I want to make sure I've built it on a solid foundation, so I am obligated to work at my own pace. Feel free to connect if you want to discuss more, as I'm always happy to.
    ok can you at least answer this question, what Norwood did you start at and what have you regrown it to?
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    I can 100% say that this **** does not work. I literally followed OP's guide back in 2014 for almost 6 months and it didn't do jack **** except making me lose serious muscle mass from his crap diet
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    Originally Posted by irollurmom View Post
    I can 100% say that this **** does not work. I literally followed OP's guide back in 2014 for almost 6 months and it didn't do jack **** except making me lose serious muscle mass from his crap diet
    Im still waiting for some pics from him. I think he will be in complete denial to the point he wont even take pictures as it will show little to no progress since he started this strange protocol. I think hes waiting to magically get the perfect dose then BOOM his hair will regrow and solve all his issues.
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