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    Originally Posted by makfromportland View Post
    I'm actually surprised that you were able to find a urologist willing to preform a vasectomy on a man with no children. Good for you I guess. When I went to have my procedure, my wife had to sign a consent form prior to being seen by the doctor.
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    Originally Posted by BorisTheCat View Post
    Is WOP all three hours? I just rediscovered his show like a week ago. I'm gonna try and record it, will then post the audio clip if possible.
    Yes its the whole show on friday. Subbing to thread, post in here when you're on hold to get on the show.
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    OP, there is no way you can know at age 21 if you are going to want kids or not in the future. Your personality, desires, relationships etc. are going to change over time. Is this reversible?
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    Originally Posted by devill1am View Post
    OP, there is no way you can know at age 21 if you are going to want kids or not in the future. Your personality, desires, relationships etc. are going to change over time. Is this reversible?
    Expensive and low chance of success.
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    Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN View Post
    Yes its the whole show on friday. Subbing to thread, post in here when you're on hold to get on the show.
    I will do my best, hopefully my mom isn't home. She is unaware of the procedure. And for those of you who scold me and think she needs to know, it's frankly none of her business.
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    Originally Posted by saintHoop View Post
    Expensive and low chance of success.
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    Strong decisions at 21. Hope ya don't regret it.
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    dumb move imo but its not my life so i dont particularly care. I just find making a permanent life choice at such a young age is regrettable. You can say you never ever want kids EVER but you have no idea how you'll feel about it years down the road. Even if you say you do. When you were thinking about this during your childhood you were young and immature, even now you still have a lot of maturing to do. Making this decision based on immature childish thoughts while youre barely into adulthood is just sad imo.


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    Originally Posted by IDontPlay247 View Post
    dumb move imo but its not my life so i dont particularly care. I just find making a permanent life choice at such a young age is regrettable. You can say you never ever want kids EVER but you have no idea how you'll feel about it years down the road. Even if you say you do. When you were thinking about this during your childhood you were young and immature, even now you still have a lot of maturing to do. Making this decision based on immature childish thoughts while youre barely into adulthood is just sad imo.


    inb4 15 years later and op says he dun goofd
    If I end up wanting kids, I can always adopt brah, as previous post said.
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    Originally Posted by BorisTheCat View Post
    This
    Look, I know you've gone through the procedure now, and I don't want you to feel bad about it but I'm going to say this in case anyone is reading this thread and is considering it at your age.

    When I was 21: "I definitely do not want to ever have kids."
    When I was 25: "I definitely do not want to ever have kids."
    Now, age 30: "I don't think I ever want to have kids, but I have to be open to the possibility that my circumstances will change."

    So really, who knows what I'll think in 5 years time. Your argument that your opinion hasn't changed since you were 14 is pretty weak to be honest. It's only in the past few years that I've appreciated the fact that I can change over time. You should have at least asked people who were a bit older than you if they felt how you did (like myself) and then if their opinion ever changed. You are making a massive assumption that your desires will not change over your entire lifetime.
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    Keeping sperm at a sperm bank only costs a few hundred a year, you can do it at a couple just to be sure.

    Doing that ensures there will be no accidents, and you haven't made any irreversible decisions.
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    Ridiculously arrogant decision to make at 21.

    Usually it's just a sh(tty tattoo that people get and regret 15 years later but a vasectomy is serious business.
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    Originally Posted by heartswild View Post
    What if you do find that perfect woman and she leaves you because she wants kids?
    Came in to post this.
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    Didn't read the roll bread but I'm calling bullchit. What sane doctor snips a 21yo?
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    Originally Posted by pacster View Post
    Didn't read the roll bread but I'm calling bullchit. What sane doctor snips a 21yo?
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    Don't want kids.Waiting until i'm 25 to decide if i still feel the same way,if so i'll get the snip i'm pretty sure i'll feel the same but you can't be sure.

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    Originally Posted by CommonPheasant View Post
    Keeping sperm at a sperm bank only costs a few hundred a year, you can do it at a couple just to be sure.

    Doing that ensures there will be no accidents, and you haven't made any irreversible decisions.
    That is money I have no desire to spend. Having a kid that I adopted doesn't make me any less of a man than impregnating my wife and making her go through childbirth.

    If I chose to adopt, raising an adopted child doesn't make him/her any less of my child than if my wife gave birth to her.

    I don't really understand why people are so adamate about how their kid MUST be their biological child.
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    Originally Posted by BorisTheCat View Post
    Is WOP all three hours? I just rediscovered his show like a week ago. I'm gonna try and record it, will then post the audio clip if possible.

    i dunno brah i just started tuning in too lol But right now it looks like hes taking calls now
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    Originally Posted by SkylarO View Post
    Came in to post this.
    Clearly if she wants kids, she is Actually not the perfect woman for OP.....
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    Originally Posted by BorisTheCat View Post
    I don't really understand why people are so adamate about how their kid MUST be their biological child.
    You don't understand because your mind has not matured into that of a man yet. Guess some are late bloomers.
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    Originally Posted by SirMazing View Post
    i dunno brah i just started tuning in too lol But right now it looks like hes taking calls now
    Nope, if you're on the tune-in app, it's the previous days' recorded show. The show is live from 3-6 pacific time.
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    Originally Posted by BorisTheCat View Post
    If I end up wanting kids, I can always adopt brah, as previous post said.
    The hurdles for adoption are much higher than having your own kid. If you think you can just "always adopt", then I got sum bad newz bro. LOTS of couples and single people, even ones who would make great parents and provide healthy homes, are not approved for adoption. Adoption also isn't about finding a kid. Its about finding "the right kid". Imagine you're the hiring manager for the most important company in the world. You don't want to fill a position with just anybody.

    IMO, you picked a permanent solution to a problem that didn't require one - cannonball, mosquito, etc... Few people want kids at 21. I didn't. Now that I've had one, all I can see is this ever-growing world of things that I've gained. Couldn't be happier. As you go through this period bridging adolescence and adulthood, your life will change a lot over the next few years, as will your priorities and personality. Rash decisions often close doors to future opportunities.
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    The hurdles for adoption are much higher than having your own kid. If you think you can just "always adopt", then I got sum bad newz bro. LOTS of couples and single people, even ones who would make great parents and provide healthy homes, are not approved for adoption. Adoption also isn't about finding a kid. Its about finding "the right kid". Imagine you're the hiring manager for the most important company in the world. You don't want to fill a position with just anybody.

    IMO, you picked a permanent solution to a problem that didn't require one - cannonball, mosquito, etc... Few people want kids at 21. I didn't. Now that I've had one, all I can see is this ever-growing world of things that I've gained. Couldn't be happier. As you go through this period bridging adolescence and adulthood, your life will change a lot over the next few years, as will your priorities and personality. Rash decisions often close doors to future opportunities.
    I'd imagine if the adoption agency ever finds out he got a vasectomy that would make it all that much harder for him to get approved.
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    Originally Posted by BorisTheCat View Post
    I don't really understand why people are so adamate about how their kid MUST be their biological child.
    They are adamant about it because of basic human nature. Cuckolding, in the evolutionary sense, is probably THE worst thing that a male can do. Investing parental effort and resources into genes that are not his own. This is also the reason that women are predisposed to have sex with the alpha male (genes for offspring), while having their offspring raised by a male who invests all his resources into her.

    As you can see sexual selection very aggressively weeds out those males who are susceptible to cuckolding. Therefore, men will instinctively want to invest resources into their own children.

    None of this is to say that men can't override this basic human nature and do a great thing from an ethical standpoint in raising an adopted child.
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    Originally Posted by Huke View Post
    The hurdles for adoption are much higher than having your own kid. If you think you can just "always adopt", then I got sum bad newz bro. LOTS of couples and single people, even ones who would make great parents and provide healthy homes, are not approved for adoption. Adoption also isn't about finding a kid. Its about finding "the right kid". Imagine you're the hiring manager for the most important company in the world. You don't want to fill a position with just anybody.

    IMO, you picked a permanent solution to a problem that didn't require one - cannonball, mosquito, etc... Few people want kids at 21. I didn't. Now that I've had one, all I can see is this ever-growing world of things that I've gained. Couldn't be happier. As you go through this period bridging adolescence and adulthood, your life will change a lot over the next few years, as will your priorities and personality. Rash decisions often close doors to future opportunities.
    Since I had the operation, I am not concerned about this. However, if for some reason I decide to have a kid in the future, that will be a bridge I will cross when I come to it.
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    Originally Posted by Lysergic92 View Post
    You don't understand because your mind has not matured into that of a man yet. Guess some are late bloomers.
    If having a kid is a requirement to be considered a "man", I will gladly remain a little boy forever and ever.
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    Originally Posted by devill1am View Post
    They are adamant about it because of basic human nature. Cuckolding, in the evolutionary sense, is probably THE worst thing that a male can do. Investing parental effort and resources into genes that are not his own. This is also the reason that women are predisposed to have sex with the alpha male (genes for offspring), while having their offspring raised by a male who invests all his resources into her.

    As you can see sexual selection very aggressively weeds out those males who are susceptible to cuckolding. Therefore, men will instinctively want to invest resources into their own children.

    None of this is to say that men can't override this basic human nature and do a great thing from an ethical standpoint in raising an adopted child.
    Theres speculation from both sides on this.But a supporting piece of evidence is that stepchildren are abused by stepfathers more than biological fathers are.Also i agree with your last sentence,we jus need to mitigate the circumstances that give way to abuse.However as a statistic the amount of children abused by their step parents isn't very high.
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