New muscletech product tomorow?

[BlueRev]

Label?

Will be released in time.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Will be released in time.

Do we know what's in it yet? I thought it was to be released 2 days ago or something

[misfit28]

Subbed for label

[XShreddedX]

in for label

[BlueRev]

Do we know what's in it yet? I thought it was to be released 2 days ago or something

They were waiting to release the name and product.
Do some of us know whats in it? yes
But does the public? No
You know how this goes coop lol

Until we get word, our lips are sealed.
I would expect it to be released soon.
Bottles are being created for loggers as well as Product Testers.

[Mr.Cooper69]

Test bottles are being created for loggers as well as Product Testers.

Gee thanks BB.com rules

[Synapsin]

Gee thanks BB.com rules

i will ban you if i get the chance

[Mr.Cooper69]

i will ban you if i get the chance

Then you better start addressing all science-related threads because you'll be the last man standing

[rakan92]

They were waiting to release the name and product.
Do some of us know whats in it? yes
But does the public? No
You know how this goes coop lol

Until we get word, our lips are sealed.
I would expect it to be released soon.
Bottles are being created for loggers as well as Product Testers.

how abt the people who are gonna buy and not said testers? How long until its on bb.com ?

[Synapsin]

Then you better start addressing all science-related threads because you'll be the last man standing

**** that

[stack3dnews]

hahaha

What reliable source was that?

As mentioned it's not concrete or official, just something someone said. Same with phosphatidic acid and free HMB acid, just things that have been passed on. As for the person who emailed me that, it was someone who was introduced to Clear Muscle a month (could be less or more) ago by Muscletech representatives. I'm sure it probably sounds absurd to you, a bit odd to us as well. But with nothing from Muscletech you must know all possibilities and rumors will make the rounds. I'm just bringing up what someone else sent in.

Either way, interested to see what comes of Clear Muscle. The people I've talked to are quite amped for it, even more so for the five or however many Essential Series formulas you have coming.

[BlueRev]

how abt the people who are gonna buy and not said testers? How long until its on bb.com ?

I'll ask if I can comment on this tomorrow, there is a "maybe" date talked about if it all runs according to plans but I don't think I can comment on it yet.

As mentioned it's not concrete or official, just something someone said. Same with phosphatidic acid and free HMB acid, just things that have been passed on. As for the person who emailed me that, it was someone who was introduced to Clear Muscle a month (could be less or more) ago by Muscletech representatives. I'm sure it probably sounds absurd to you, a bit odd to us as well. But with nothing from Muscletech you must know all possibilities and rumors will make the rounds. I'm just bringing up what someone else sent in.

Either way, interested to see what comes of Clear Muscle. The people I've talked to are quite amped for it, even more so for the five or however many Essential Series formulas you have coming.

Interesting indeed. Wonder who it was lol

[rakan92]

Thanx for taking the time BLUEREV !

[stack3dnews]

I'll ask if I can comment on this tomorrow, there is a "maybe" date talked about if it all runs according to plans but I don't think I can comment on it yet.


Interesting indeed. Wonder who it was lol

As you can imagine we do get stuff from all over the show, but never actually confirm anything until it's from Muscletech. When they said that was it's contents, I was a little concerned. The somewhat giveaway was that it wasn't a single ingredient as promoted. Clear Muscle may of course have more than one (?), but if it does I'm almost certain it's not those two ingredients. More so based on your reply ;-).

[mentalist72]

I'm a prime candidate for testing

[fibercarbon]

saw the ad in flex....

[Madevilz]

**** that

Synapsin a mod, feelsgoodman

[melaneybh]

Synapsin a mod, feelsgoodman

Only Canadian mod I think eh

[Danes]

hhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22510240

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that this study is likely a complete fabrication.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/...ust-gibberish/

I dont agree that atp is not orally bioavaliable

 Tampa 2013 (Wilson)

ATP & MUSCULAR FATIGUECLINICAL EVIDENCEUNIVERSITY OF TAMPA 2013 (WILSON)UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA 2013 (LOWERY)IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY 2012 (RATHMACHER)IS PEAK ATP® THE NEXT GENERATION OF NO?

Key Findings

Participants taking PEAK ATP® experienced incredible benefits including:

Increased strength (147% increase over placebo)
• PEAK ATP®: 55.3 kg versus placebo: 22.4 kg
Increased power (30% increase over placebo)
• PEAK ATP®: 796 watts versus placebo: 614 watts
Increased lean body mass (100% increase over placebo)
• PEAK ATP®: 4.0 kg versus placebo: 2.1 kg
Increased muscle thickness (96% increase over placebo)
• PEAK ATP®: 4.9 mm versus placebo: 2.5 mm
Reduced protein breakdown

A double-blind, placebo-controlled study investigated the effect of PEAK ATP® on strength, power, lean body mass and marker of muscular damage. Twenty-one resistance-trained males took either 400 mg of PEAK ATP® per day or placebo for 12 weeks. The first phase of the study (8 weeks) consisted of a resistance-training program. In the second phase (2 weeks), training volume and frequency were increased to the point of over-reaching. For the final phase (2 weeks), training volume and frequency were decreased. Muscle mass, strength and power were measured at baseline and at weeks 4, 8, and 12.

Wilson JM, et al. Effects of oral adenosine-5’-triphosphate supplementation on athletic performance, skeletal muscle hypertrophy and recovery in resistance-trained men. Nutrition and Metabolism. 2013, 10:57.

[ZeroInitiativE]

Always interested in new muscle builders I've run X factor so many times I wouldn't mind trying something new.

[Garyboy]

Tim Montgomery to endorse? Every time I hear clear in a physical performance based context, I can't help but think of him.

[neuron]

I dont agree that atp is not orally bioavaliable

 Tampa 2013 (Wilson)

ATP & MUSCULAR FATIGUECLINICAL EVIDENCEUNIVERSITY OF TAMPA 2013 (WILSON)UNIVERSITY OF TAMPA 2013 (LOWERY)IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY 2012 (RATHMACHER)IS PEAK ATP® THE NEXT GENERATION OF NO?

That study does not even investigate bioavailability. It's also comically underpowered and funded by the makers of Peak ATP.


Derp.

[neuron]

btw, whoever wrote that article must have missed biology 101:

Recently, Coolen et al. questioned the bioavailability of oral ATP [2]. However, the biological pool where ATP is measured will determine the results of bioavailability analysis. If sampled in venous portal blood, oral ATP is indeed bioavailable [13]. Coolen et al. did not analyse venous portal blood[/size]. If sampling systemic plasma or whole blood, oral ATP will have very low bioavailability even in very high doses.

#1) If you measure the venous portal system the levels of any compound capable of GI translocation will be artifically high because it resides before hepatic degradation.
#2) Bioavailability is defined by the level in systemic plasma, not the venous system!



brb, lets re-define basic pharmacokinetic terms so the funders of this study will be happy

[Danes]

btw, whoever wrote that article must have missed biology 101:



#1) If you measure the venous portal system the levels of any compound capable of GI translocation will be artifically high because it resides before hepatic degradation.
#2) Bioavailability is defined by the level in systemic plasma, not the venous system!



brb, lets re-define basic pharmacokinetic terms so the funders of this study will be happy

Thank you for clearing up

[II Cybershot II]

That study does not even investigate bioavailability. It's also comically underpowered and funded by the makers of Peak ATP.


Derp.

are you saying this new super supplement isn't going to be the bees knees?

[BULLED]

Wait. No label? So all the fuss was to reveal... the name of the product? Too much drama for my old heart. I leave you , kids.

[ISurfNudeBrah]

are you saying this new super supplement isn't going to be the bees knees?

We don't know what the ingredients are (yet), he is just discussing oral bioavailability of ATP.

[KillerB84]

We don't know what the ingredients are (yet), he is just discussing oral bioavailability of ATP.

HMB Free Acid. The same guy who did the HMB Free Acid study also studied ATP as well. One group supplemented with HMB + ATP and this group had the greatest lean mass gains, which led some people to believe that this product is HMB-FA + ATP. But the capsule size says differently.

[KillerB84]

Just saw the ad which now 100% confirms HMB-FA. At the bottom of the ad it says, "...researchers at the prestigious University of Tampa in Florida conducted a randomized, double blind, placebo controlled clinical study on very well trained bodybuilders."

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/nct01508338

http://www.jissn.com/content/10/S1/P17

[Houlne12]

I'm in for this!