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    Originally Posted by KillerB84 View Post
    It says "Lean Muscle", but this is misleading since the study states "Lean Mass"

    ah thank you for posting this. much appreciated.
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    The term "Lean muscle" never made sense to me anyway... what other kind of muscle is there?
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    Originally Posted by KillerB84 View Post
    The term "Lean muscle" never made sense to me anyway... what other kind of muscle is there?
    "bulky" muscle

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    Originally Posted by KillerB84 View Post
    The term "Lean muscle" never made sense to me anyway... what other kind of muscle is there?
    Really are we getting to the point where we critique every exact word on all mt supplements?
    There are bcaa products on here that say "burn fat"...

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    Originally Posted by BlueRev View Post
    Really are we getting to the point where we critique every exact word on all mt supplements?
    There are bcaa products on here that say "burn fat"...

    We will have logging opportunities by the way.
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    Originally Posted by BlueRev View Post
    Really are we getting to the point where we critique every exact word on all mt supplements?
    There are bcaa products on here that say "burn fat"...

    We will have logging opportunities by the way.
    MT is the one making such a bullsh-t claim 16lbs of muscle in 12 weeks if you really believe that, than your ignorant. Just my opinion, and you seem to have this thing with bcaa products this is the second time in the past few days you tried to reference them defending MT. I believe the last thread was about fillers in protein and you brought up bcaa products.
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    Looking forward to this, will have to give it a run out, hope it goes on some sort of sale when it comes out
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    Originally Posted by BlueRev View Post
    Really are we getting to the point where we critique every exact word on all mt supplements?
    There are bcaa products on here that say "burn fat"...

    We will have logging opportunities by the way.
    Hey man whens this dropping any idea? Looks pretty intriguing.
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    Originally Posted by BlueRev View Post
    Really are we getting to the point where we critique every exact word on all mt supplements?
    There are bcaa products on here that say "burn fat"...

    We will have logging opportunities by the way.
    You sound mad. You mad?
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    Originally Posted by chicago1963 View Post
    MT is the one making such a bullsh-t claim 16lbs of muscle in 12 weeks if you really believe that, than your ignorant. Just my opinion, and you seem to have this thing with bcaa products this is the second time in the past few days you tried to reference them defending MT. I believe the last thread was about fillers in protein and you brought up bcaa products.
    I'm not sure how you can claim anybody is making BS claims when you don't even know what the product is. Everything will be clear soon and the studies cited in those claims will be made public so you can see for yourself that MT isn't pulling these numbers out of thin air. And for the record the study was not done on beginners, but experienced strength training athletes. It's fine to have doubts and I understand being skeptical. At least learn what you need to about the product before you start calling us out.
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    Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I'm not sure how you can claim anybody is making BS claims when you don't even know what the product is. Everything will be clear soon and the studies cited in those claims will be made public so you can see for yourself that MT isn't pulling these numbers out of thin air. And for the record the study was not done on beginners, but experienced strength training athletes. It's fine to have doubts and I understand being skeptical. At least learn what you need to about the product before you start calling us out.
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    Actually, if it is indeed HMB Free Acid, there is a well done study using real training protocols on experienced lifters that back up the claim.
    Extremely low powered study on a previously discredited amino acid metabolite which exceeds statistical & physiological significance. Seems legit.
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    Lol MT gonna MT. Corporate is doing a hell of a job though, bluerev would argue that white is black for MT. Amazing how easily they can brainwash online sales reps with free protein.
    LOL would I? I tell the truth, if it's a crap formula, I would tell them. Ask anyone on this team, I complain more than anyone at muscletech. Literally.
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    Interested, hopefully there's no yohimbe, which mt seems to put in everything.
    I can confirm that this product is Yohimbe-free.
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    I can confirm that this product is Yohimbe-free.
    Any particular reason you guys choose to use yohimbe and its derivatives instead of yohimbine in your products?
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    Originally Posted by Dewey99 View Post
    I'm not sure how you can claim anybody is making BS claims when you don't even know what the product is. Everything will be clear soon and the studies cited in those claims will be made public so you can see for yourself that MT isn't pulling these numbers out of thin air. And for the record the study was not done on beginners, but experienced strength training athletes. It's fine to have doubts and I understand being skeptical. At least learn what you need to about the product before you start calling us out.

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    Extremely low powered study on a previously discredited amino acid metabolite which exceeds statistical & physiological significance. Seems legit.
    Not trying to be a smartass, legit question: what's a low powered study?
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    Originally Posted by KillerB84 View Post
    Not trying to be a smartass, legit question: what's a low powered study?
    Google statistical power
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    Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Google statistical power
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    Originally Posted by Synapsin View Post
    Google statistical power
    Wow, some of those figures made my head hurt. About the only thing I got out of that was a small sample size can decrease power. Is that why this would be considered low power because they only used 20 participants?
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    Ask anyone on this team, I complain more than anyone at muscletech..
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