Obama launches ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ to help young minority men

[JUSA]

Look at the statistics on who struggles in this country more.... I think you'll then agree this new project is right on par with what needs to be done to see that non whites are getting the same chance at success as whites.

Yeah, poor white kids should just suck it up. They've got Privilege, after all. Who would think that we should just make a program that indiscriminately helped all youth who were poor? Honestly, the idea is a little unsettling and smacks of racism.

[817TexasBrah]

Yeah and the other day i saw a kid helping a black woman cross the street, i yelled at him for an hour for not helping a white woman too!

What a ****ing kunt that kid is for helping that black woman, what a RACIST!

So you think that kid wouldn't help a white woman also? You think that kid only helps women of color? That would be pretty ****ty no?

[s2kvtec9]

Careful what you say there boys... Last time I called Obama an unAmerican racist, I got a 5 month ban.

If that's true, that is pathetic on mods part

[nutsy54]

Yeah and the other day i saw a kid helping a black woman cross the street, i yelled at him for an hour for not helping a white woman too!

What a ****ing kunt that kid is for helping that black woman, what a RACIST!

If the Federal government was only backing & funding an organization which solely helped people cross the street based on their gender and skin color, then your rant would have relevance in this thread.

[lasher]

Tell me you aren't this full of potato and can't see the difference

he's beyond that full potato.

[detrimental]

Yeah and the other day i saw a kid helping a black woman cross the street, i yelled at him for an hour for not helping a white woman too!

What a ****ing kunt that kid is for helping that black woman, what a RACIST!

lmao I legit lol'd... I don't think this has ever been more appropriate

[ImproperOne]

So you think that kid wouldn't help a white woman also? You think that kid only helps women of color? That would be pretty ****ty no?

I dunno, do you think this initiative would turn away a white impoverished kid?

[ImproperOne]

If the Federal government was only backing & funding an organization which solely helped people cross the street based on their gender and skin color, then your rant would have relevance in this thread.

It's a private initiative, is it not?

[GencFB]

White kids don't nearly struggle on the level of Hispanic or African American children. Not a valid argument. lol @ people complaining about a program to promote success/responsibility to better out CHILDREN. Face palm.

So disadvantaging poor Whites relative to poor Blacks (who are being given more opportunities through this program when all else is held equal) is just?

[nutsy54]

I dunno, do you think this initiative would turn away a white impoverished kid?

It's not a matter of "turning away", they're only supporting organizations who help males "of color".

President Obama is taking action to launch My Brother’s Keeper – a new initiative to help every boy and young man of color who is willing to do the hard work to get ahead.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ther-s-keeper-

[ScubaStevo]

Oh no! A black kid may get a chance at college and to be successful! Please say it ain't so Jesus!

How is a black kid not currently getting a chance at college and to be successful?

[nutsy54]

It's a private initiative, is it not?

Yes, the White House, President of the United States, and a Federal Government task force means it's a "private" initiative.

{sarcasm}

[ImproperOne]

I've seen people arguing that targeting black people when it comes to crime isn't a problem, if the person committing the crime is black then OF COURSE they will look for black people and that is not discriminatory practice.

However, targeting minority groups because they are the most impoverished groups to help then succeed via a private initiative is apparently HORRIBLE.

It's only ok to target minority groups when it comes to crime, at all other times we must not recognize that they are the most impoverished group in need of assistance?

Would this initiative turn away a white kid in need of help? That it specifically targets the recognize groups does NOT mean that it will exclude everyone else that is in the same situation, it's just a recognition that the groups in need of help are overwhelmingly the minority groups.

[ImproperOne]

Yes, the White House, President of the United States, and a Federal Government task force means it's a "private" initiative.

{sarcasm}

So, ignoring that there is an overwhelming disparity in actual crime when it comes to minority groups is ok but targeting the minority groups for help is not ok?

And by private initiative i mean that this is a government backed privately funded initiative just like thousands of initiatives before it.

[GencFB]

I've seen people arguing that targeting black people when it comes to crime isn't a problem, if the person committing the crime is black then OF COURSE they will look for black people and that is not discriminatory practice.

However, targeting minority groups because they are the most impoverished groups to help then succeed via a private initiative is apparently HORRIBLE.

It's only ok to target minority groups when it comes to crime, at all other times we must not recognize that they are the most impoverished group in need of assistance?

Would this initiative turn away a white kid in need of help? That it specifically targets the recognize groups does NOT mean that it will exclude everyone else that is in the same situation, it's just a recognition that the groups in need of help are overwhelmingly the minority groups.

Straw man.

Police officers are targeting CRIME REDUCTION. This initiative targets AFRICAN-AMERICAN (emphasis here) Poverty. See the difference?

[goody1]

I've seen people arguing that targeting black people when it comes to crime isn't a problem, if the person committing the crime is black then OF COURSE they will look for black people and that is not discriminatory practice.

However, targeting minority groups because they are the most impoverished groups to help then succeed via a private initiative is apparently HORRIBLE.

It's only ok to target minority groups when it comes to crime, at all other times we must not recognize that they are the most impoverished group in need of assistance?

Would this initiative turn away a white kid in need of help? That it specifically targets the recognize groups does NOT mean that it will exclude everyone else that is in the same situation, it's just a recognition that the groups in need of help are overwhelmingly the minority groups.

Do we even need to pontificate the reaction if Bush supported groups whose purpose was to only help young WHITE boys?

[ImproperOne]

It's not a matter of "turning away", they're only supporting organizations who help males "of color".

President Obama is taking action to launch My Brother’s Keeper – a new initiative to help every boy and young man of color who is willing to do the hard work to get ahead.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ther-s-keeper-

Do you think it's wrong to target a group that is recognized as the group most likely to commit crimes at all times or is it only when trying to help that group that it's an issue?

[GencFB]

Do you think it's wrong to target a group that is recognized as the group most likely to commit crimes at all times or is it only when trying to help that group that it's an issue?

I addressed the issue. Respond.

[817TexasBrah]

I've seen people arguing that targeting black people when it comes to crime isn't a problem, if the person committing the crime is black then OF COURSE they will look for black people and that is not discriminatory practice.

However, targeting minority groups because they are the most impoverished groups to help then succeed via a private initiative is apparently HORRIBLE.

It's only ok to target minority groups when it comes to crime, at all other times we must not recognize that they are the most impoverished group in need of assistance?

Would this initiative turn away a white kid in need of help? That it specifically targets the recognize groups does NOT mean that it will exclude everyone else that is in the same situation, it's just a recognition that the groups in need of help are overwhelmingly the minority groups.

Dude, are you drunk?

[nutsy54]

So, ignoring that there is an overwhelming disparity in actual crime when it comes to minority groups is ok but targeting the minority groups for help is not ok?

And by private initiative i mean that this is a government backed privately funded initiative just like thousands of initiatives before it.

Do you think it's wrong to target a group that is recognized as the group most likely to commit crimes at all times or is it only when trying to help that group that it's an issue?

What the hell are you talking about with crime rates?

That strawman was already smashed: This policy would be the equivalent of stating police will only arrest black criminals, because they're more likely to be committing crime. Hella-Derp.

Not sure why you're trying to defend this "government backed private initiative" just because such policies have been used in the past. Why can't you directly respond to the issues I've posted about?

[ImproperOne]

Straw man.

Police officers are targeting CRIME REDUCTION. This initiative targets AFRICAN-AMERICAN (emphasis here) Poverty. See the difference?

So, recognizing that minority groups are overwhelmingly over represented in crime is ok but recognizing that the same groups are the ones in most need of help isn't?

I mean, it's no news that targeting a specific group helps in solving crime but it IS news that this group is also the one in most need of help?

Ehrmagerd they are helping the BLACKS specifically, recognizing that they are a group that is in most need of help... that's is just AWFUL?

[ImproperOne]

I give up.

When the white Christian males start crying about their persecution status there is no way to argue the actual real world facts.

[817TexasBrah]

Straw man.

Police officers are targeting CRIME REDUCTION. This initiative targets AFRICAN-AMERICAN (emphasis here) Poverty. See the difference?

And if the person said,"the guy that raped me was white!" Why would he expect the police to look for Mexicans, Blacks, and Asians as well?!?!

It is targeting the person who did the crime. There are poor white kids that are on the same level as poor black kids.

[GermanBB]

in choosing the target population, why not vividly describe the group by their actions... instead of color or even social status (though have the financial cutoff for eligibility)....

a program for scofflaws and those at risk of becoming scofflaws through previous disciplinary action-particularly those involving violence or gross disrespect (meaning beyond words) of the school's authority. i'm no quant, but a simple algorithm could be made here to make it fair.. gpa, non-violent disciplinary action, violent disciplinary action, absences beyond the policy cutoff, percentage tardiness, etc. We're tryin to help the youth that needs it.. not just the blacks and hispanics like biased-Obama wants.

but yea, discriminatory propositions by the executive branch have kinda become a callingcard of the current administration.

[goody1]

I give up.
I'm a potato and can't figure out the difference between this program and someone helping a little old lady across the street

Fixed

[AngryBlackMail]

Straw man.

Police officers are targeting CRIME REDUCTION.

wait wait. you think it's okay for police to stop and frisk african americans?

You realize it violates the 4th amendment?

The Fourth Amendment (Amendment IV) to the United States Constitution is the part of the Bill of Rights that prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures and requires any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause.

Ladies and gentlemen this why Conversatives will NEVER WIN the black vote.

Thank you nusty and company.

[NYCBrah19]

I give up.

When the white Christian males start crying about their persecution status there is no way to argue the actual real world facts.

Typical liberal rhetoric. Yes, because white Christian males arguing that aid should be given to all poor children regardless of race equates to "crying about persecution [sic] status" - Enjoy your white guilt goals of 2014 and beyond...

[tsbalr120]

Liberals:


Why exactly can this not be a needs based? Any white/black/hispanic/asain kid who needs it will have access to it. Why exclude a child in need because the rest of his race on average is more fortunate? If you guys can't see this being racist then you're lost.

[goody1]

wait wait. you think it's okay for police to stop and frisk african americans?

You realize it violates the 4th amendment?



Ladies and gentlemen this why Conversatives will NEVER WIN the black vote.

Thank you nusty and company.

Nice troll account. Coward.

[lasher]

wait wait. you think it's okay for police to stop and frisk african americans?

You realize it violates the 4th amendment?



Ladies and gentlemen this why Conversatives will NEVER WIN the black vote.

Thank you nusty and company.

okay marky