Saving Private Ryan: Realistic War Movie?

[CalmAndReady]

First off, was the Omaha Beach Landing anything like it was depicted in the movie? Why would any American general order such a stupid attack? Landing craft opening 100 meters from machine gun nests? Why not first bring those American destroyers to shell those machine gun nests into oblivion?




There was a Mythbusters episode about shooting guns into water. The conclusion is that water stops bullets dead in their tracks.

This doesn't happen:




I didn't get the best screen capture on the following scene, but if you watch the movie you'll see that there are American troops behind those Germans that are getting shot (You can kinda see their helmets). Troops would never shoot like they do in this scene because there's too much of a risk of friendly fire. Even if they didn't miss, their bullets might go straight through the Germans.




This always gives me a laugh. The American shoots a German through the wall and then a pool of like 2 gallons of blood literally spills out in 2 seconds.

[Noxema]

Yes. IIRC Spielberg intended to make it as accurate a representation of the chaos as possible, not historically precise. Movie got it right, people were actually getting cut down by the tens as the doors opened. Bullets going through 2-3 men, being unable to exit the boat due to a pile of 2-3 bodies, drowning, trying to use bodies for cover, etc etc etc



Idea was to drop paratroopers, then ferry in troops. Believe me, that was one of the better ideas, and locations, for the invasion. IIRC the Nazzies expected an invasion at Calais...Which, if we would have chosen Calais, would have probably been a massacre.


MG bullets do indeed travel through water and are lethal...Think 30 cals are good for 2-6ft underwater or something like that.

[Joeyfresh95]

A movie can be unrealistic who knew?!?!

[puremb]

I doubt you can realistically make a a battle movie and actually able to release it. War back then was fuking brutal, so many people got slaughtered just pushing the lines forward.

[Frell]

We watched this in 11th grade in highschool


was so nice seeing materialistic sloots put their phones down and see what real men were like

[ltrrtl218]

creative license brah. do you even hollywood?

[Mikelawton]

probably yeah. i remember reading articles where veterans from the actual war said it was really accurate

[GermanLifter]

yeah its realistic, if u dont believe the omaha landing scene, look up the actual casualties. we lost a ton of men that day

[golvmopp]

MG bullets do indeed travel through water and are lethal...Think 30 cals are good for 2-6ft underwater or something like that.

The supersonic speed causes such a violent deceleration even a .50 caliber bullet desintegrates and is rendered completely harmless after having traveled 2ft. This after being fired into water at point blank range.

[Paulie92]

probably yeah. i remember reading articles where veterans from the actual war said it was really accurate

This, some even walked out the theater during the Omaha landing scene

[TheDesertFox]

It's a damn movie son, it's not a documentary with actual footage. It has some very realistic scenes but it also has some scenes that make the movie that much more memorable and awesome. 10/10 movie, my top 2 favorite films of all time.

[WookinPaNub]

The supersonic speed causes such a violent deceleration even a .50 caliber bullet desintegrates and is rendered completely harmless after having traveled 2ft. This after being fired into water at point blank range.

Proof or stfu

[OMGAGIRL]

I think apocalypse now was pretty realistic, I actually thought it was a documentary at one point.

[puremb]

Proof or stfu

[CalmAndReady]

yeah its realistic, if u dont believe the omaha landing scene, look up the actual casualties. we lost a ton of men that day

But how many of those men were lost on the beach in particular? The movie made it seem like 1/2 the guys who stepped off landing craft died in the water or on the shore. The water was red in the movie.

[aesthetics24]

pretty sure its saving private ryan but that knife scene always hits me in the feels when the american guy starts losing. dat last minute panic

[sandpapergooch]

Proof or stfu

A fast moving bullet impacting into water causes the round to essentially slam into it as if it was a solid object, decreasing the rounds velocity quite rapidly.
A round fired under water starts out at rest and is accelerated up to speed while in the water and never approaches anywhere near the speed of a bullet traveling in the air would prior to encountering water.
In fact there are special purpose (mostly Russian) pistols and rifles designed to be useful underwater (for use by naval special forces) that fire extremely long and skinny projectiles that have a useful range of 30m underwater (a regular round would be effective for maybe 3m).

[taddpole]

But how many of those men were lost on the beach in particular? The movie made it seem like 1/2 the guys who stepped off landing craft died in the water or on the shore. The water was red in the movie.

A fuking ton of them. As somebody already posted, people would get mowed down as soon as their craft's ramp opened, and the rest stuck behind them getting shot, drowning, etc.

[ZT89]

lold @ water stops bullet.

You go at the bottom of the pool and wait there while I spray you with an M16. We'll see what happens.

[.aeterna]

i can confirm, i was there on the beach that day





it was hell

[bbwinner]

Are you kidding me..

lol @ people believing everything in movies, tv and the media is the truth...

[Turbomunkey]

If you want to watch a movie that is realistic go rent a documentary. Things are brushed up a bit for emotional appeal

[TheDesertFox]

Are you kidding me..

lol @ people believing everything in movies, tv and the media is the truth...

first off, not sure if srs about the tv and media part and also strong gif embed fail

secondly, I always thought it was the allied airplanes that fly over them directly after that scene that were responsible for blowing up that tank. Captain millers gunshot is just coincidentally at the same time that the tank is hit by those tank busters. Not sure though.

[anonymous]

First off, was the Omaha Beach Landing anything like it was depicted in the movie? Why would any American general order such a stupid attack? Landing craft opening 100 meters from machine gun nests? Why not first bring those American destroyers to shell those machine gun nests into oblivion?

Omaha Beach was to be bombarded by air and naval guns one half-hour before landings. As part of the entire program, so as not to give away the true locations of the landings, the entire coast had consistently been bombed.

They did you facking potato. They also sent massive waves of bombers to bomb the chit out of the area before the invasion. Ordnance was not that advanced back then and usually meant just launching a bunch of chit in the general area of your target and hoping it hit them. A massive reinforced concrete bunker, like the one from your pic, would have been quite fine after all that bombing.

Also some of this, like the shooting of the Germans with risk of friendly fire(which is subjective as to whether they would or would not shoot them there) and the 2 gallon blood spill in .5 seconds (dunno if this would really happen or not) is dramatized BECAUSE IT'S A FACKING MOVIE.

[Kodiak87]

pretty sure its saving private ryan but that knife scene always hits me in the feels when the american guy starts losing. dat last minute panic

This. Knives make it personal.

[kleenguard]

mars attack and transformers are pretty realistic war movies
highly recommended

[MURedHawk235]

lold @ water stops bullet.

You go at the bottom of the pool and wait there while I spray you with an M16. We'll see what happens.

it does brah, clearly didnt read through thread

and to the op

Over 425,000 Allied and German troops were killed, wounded or went missing during the Battle of Normandy. This figure includes over 209,000 Allied casualties, with nearly 37,000 dead amongst the ground forces and a further 16,714 deaths amongst the Allied air forces. Of the Allied casualties, 83,045 were from 21st Army Group (British, Canadian and Polish ground forces), 125,847 from the US ground forces. The losses of the German forces during the Battle of Normandy can only be estimated. Roughly 200,000 German troops were killed or wounded. The Allies also captured 200,000 prisoners of war (not included in the 425,000 total, above). During the fighting around the Falaise Pocket (August 1944) alone, the Germans suffered losses of around 90,000, including prisoners.

[MiamiLife305]

GOAT movie of all time

The feels are incredible

Fuark.. I need to watch it in HD quality now

[Frell]

lold @ water stops bullet.

You go at the bottom of the pool and wait there while I spray you with an M16. We'll see what happens.

how can our eyes be real if you don't even read

[DUKENUK3M]

brb germans all depicted as having shaved heads.

Don't think so jeff.







Spielberg's gonna spielberg