First off, was the Omaha Beach Landing anything like it was depicted in the movie? Why would any American general order such a stupid attack? Landing craft opening 100 meters from machine gun nests? Why not first bring those American destroyers to shell those machine gun nests into oblivion?
There was a Mythbusters episode about shooting guns into water. The conclusion is that water stops bullets dead in their tracks.
This doesn't happen:
I didn't get the best screen capture on the following scene, but if you watch the movie you'll see that there are American troops behind those Germans that are getting shot (You can kinda see their helmets). Troops would never shoot like they do in this scene because there's too much of a risk of friendly fire. Even if they didn't miss, their bullets might go straight through the Germans.
This always gives me a laugh. The American shoots a German through the wall and then a pool of like 2 gallons of blood literally spills out in 2 seconds.
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02-22-2014, 05:40 PM #1
Saving Private Ryan: Realistic War Movie?
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Yes. IIRC Spielberg intended to make it as accurate a representation of the chaos as possible, not historically precise. Movie got it right, people were actually getting cut down by the tens as the doors opened. Bullets going through 2-3 men, being unable to exit the boat due to a pile of 2-3 bodies, drowning, trying to use bodies for cover, etc etc etc
Idea was to drop paratroopers, then ferry in troops. Believe me, that was one of the better ideas, and locations, for the invasion. IIRC the Nazzies expected an invasion at Calais...Which, if we would have chosen Calais, would have probably been a massacre.
MG bullets do indeed travel through water and are lethal...Think 30 cals are good for 2-6ft underwater or something like that.Last edited by Noxema; 02-22-2014 at 05:50 PM.
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I think apocalypse now was pretty realistic, I actually thought it was a documentary at one point.
"What do you say, for instance, about a generation that has been taught that rain is poison and sex is death? If making love might be fatal and if a cool spring breeze on any summer afternoon can turn a crystal blue lake into a puddle of black poison right in front of your eyes, there is not much left except TV and relentless masturbation. It's a strange world. Some people get rich and others eat sh*t and die."
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A fast moving bullet impacting into water causes the round to essentially slam into it as if it was a solid object, decreasing the rounds velocity quite rapidly.
A round fired under water starts out at rest and is accelerated up to speed while in the water and never approaches anywhere near the speed of a bullet traveling in the air would prior to encountering water.
In fact there are special purpose (mostly Russian) pistols and rifles designed to be useful underwater (for use by naval special forces) that fire extremely long and skinny projectiles that have a useful range of 30m underwater (a regular round would be effective for maybe 3m).*METS*KNICKS*VIKINGS*
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first off, not sure if srs about the tv and media part and also strong gif embed fail
secondly, I always thought it was the allied airplanes that fly over them directly after that scene that were responsible for blowing up that tank. Captain millers gunshot is just coincidentally at the same time that the tank is hit by those tank busters. Not sure though.
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02-22-2014, 06:09 PM #24anonymousGuestOmaha Beach was to be bombarded by air and naval guns one half-hour before landings. As part of the entire program, so as not to give away the true locations of the landings, the entire coast had consistently been bombed.
Also some of this, like the shooting of the Germans with risk of friendly fire(which is subjective as to whether they would or would not shoot them there) and the 2 gallon blood spill in .5 seconds (dunno if this would really happen or not) is dramatized BECAUSE IT'S A FACKING MOVIE.
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it does brah, clearly didnt read through thread
and to the op
Over 425,000 Allied and German troops were killed, wounded or went missing during the Battle of Normandy. This figure includes over 209,000 Allied casualties, with nearly 37,000 dead amongst the ground forces and a further 16,714 deaths amongst the Allied air forces. Of the Allied casualties, 83,045 were from 21st Army Group (British, Canadian and Polish ground forces), 125,847 from the US ground forces. The losses of the German forces during the Battle of Normandy can only be estimated. Roughly 200,000 German troops were killed or wounded. The Allies also captured 200,000 prisoners of war (not included in the 425,000 total, above). During the fighting around the Falaise Pocket (August 1944) alone, the Germans suffered losses of around 90,000, including prisoners.
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