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    Question tiger balm vs biofreeze

    which one do you guys think help numb pain better?
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    Best thing I've found for sore to downright debilitating tendons/ligaments/muscles etc. is a combination of Walgreens roll on Capsaicin and Tiger Balm Ultra Sport.

    If it's not the roll on it's not as strong. If it's not Ultra it's not as strong. The Walgreens Roll on Capsaisin has more Capsaicin per volume than Equiblock. So, be careful how much you put on. Also, it's a roll on and less to get on your hands or other unwanted areas. You DO NOT want this to get on your fingers. There is also Tiger Balm Extra Strength but the Ultra is slightly stronger. You can get both from Walgreens in store and online. Liftinglarge you can get a bigger container of the Tiger Balm Ultra though. I like the tigerbalm over most menthol products as it's stronger concentration of menthol and also has a high concentration of camphor and other oils that other menthol liniments don't have. Also, watch out on the timing of application and how long it kicks in.

    For general tendonitis I'll apply the capsaicin first thing in the morning. This can burn all day and night especially depending on how much you apply and application area. Also, WARNING it can take a good 20 -45 minutes or more before you actually start feeling it kick in. So, some people apply it and 10 minutes later don't feel anything so apply a lot more. BAD idea. Then about 15 minutes before training or as I'm warming up I apply some tiger balm and if possibly put on some sleeves. (some might not be able to handle the pain of sleeves over liniments and most liniments say to not cover the area of application.) Tiger balm can take a good 15-20 minutes before you feel it kick in.

    For bad pains... Same as above but I'll apply the capsaicin again in the afternoon. This may cause a lot of redness and will most likely feel it well into the next day regardless of how much you try and wash it off and water burns...

    For really really bad pains... same as above but apply the capsaicin again before training along with the afternoon second application then just pray to the gods that I can sleep through the fire for the next couple days. This allowed me to train and compete at a meet through a pulled upper pec and partially separated clavicle.




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    tiger balm ultra and EFS arctic balm. biofreeze sucks
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    in combo...equals fire and ability to train through otherwise debilitating pain.
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    the Equiblock DT or topical formula is .025% capsaicin. The Walgreens roll on is .15%. The equitight is a lot less but includes some menthol. The Tiger Balm Ultra is a higher concentration of menthol and includes camphor and then combine that with the walgreens roll on is a perfect combo. Nothing on EFS is comparable to either of those two.
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    never been big on these, but starting to take interest, doesnt the tiger balm have a good stink to it?
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    Originally Posted by Squatticus View Post
    never been big on these, but starting to take interest, doesnt the tiger balm have a good stink to it?
    you'll mostly smell the menthol like any other menthol based product. I rather like the smell. The capsaicin has no smell.
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    I can confirm, the capsaicin is awesome but burns like there was a habanero rub was applied to your skin.

    I use it though when needed and it definitely does the job.
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    I feel like a tard, but what is causing so much pain that you need this regularly?
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    Originally Posted by adpowah View Post
    I feel like a tard, but what is causing so much pain that you need this regularly?
    Life. I think there's a surgeon general's warning against it.
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    My back is feeling pretty beat down after lifting last night and I still have 4 games of softball between now and Thursday. I'm going to check these out.
    I ended up getting the tiger balm. **** is amazing
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    I ended up getting the tiger balm. **** is amazing
    I'll probably go get both the Tiger Balm and Capsaicin roll on today after work. I want it to feel like napalm was just dropped on my back
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    Cryoderm - I prefer the ingredients compared to Biofreeze, and like that there's no methyl salicylate


    CBD hemp oil - cannabidiol, which is mostly responsible for pot's more healing qualities



    Fantastic for inflammation and pain. The CBD is kind of expensive, but it's the only thing allowing me to press with a minimal amount of pain
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    Equiblock / Walgreen Capsacin for pre-workout
    Tiger Balm post-workout

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    CBD hemp oil - cannabidiol, which is mostly responsible for pot's more healing qualities


    Fantastic for inflammation and pain. The CBD is kind of expensive, but it's the only thing allowing me to press with a minimal amount of pain
    Do you inject that?
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    Generally, people ingest it. Kinda tar-like in terms of how sticky it is, but I mix it into the cryoderm and that works brilliant.
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    I absolutely love the Equi Block. It works wonders for me. I have used Tiger Balm and those hot/ cold ones sold by elite fts. Equi wins for sure for me, takes a little longer to get started thought so I make sure its on while im stretching so that by my top sets its full fire
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    I think I have tried just about everything out there. By far my favorite is Tiger Balm. Only drawback is that it does smell. Not that the smell bothers me, problem is that is goes right through your clothes. So my recliner and couch have a nice Tiger Balm smell to them.
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    I just bought some capsaicin from Walgreens and got home to find out it expired 5/13... There were only 4-5 left.

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    I just bought some capsaicin from Walgreens and got home to find out it expired 5/13... There were only 4-5 left.

    Return it or still good?
    I would think it's still good. Rub some on and you'll know within the hour.
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    fwiw, i'm apparently the only one who loves biofreeze. I had a bad experience with capsaicin, and it left a burn mark on my skin. Biofreeze, for me, works awesome to roll on before training and then put my rehbands over it.
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    I would think it's still good. Rub some on and you'll know within the hour.
    I put some last night @11pm and still feel the hotness. Seems like it lasts longer than the regular one I was using (0.025 solution) so the burn wasn't a surprise... Feels pleasant.

    I'll have to check the expiration date next time though lol.
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    I'll probably go get both the Tiger Balm and Capsaicin roll on today after work. I want it to feel like napalm was just dropped on my back
    When I apply the capsaicin, I don't feel much until after I shower, then I feel like the water somehow "activates" it. I don't feel **** until then
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    When I apply the capsaicin, I don't feel much until after I shower, then I feel like the water somehow "activates" it. I don't feel **** until then
    maybe when you put some capsaicin, you don't massage it well into your skin. I can't remember if warm water opens your poors... but your skin may finally absorb from pores opening up rubbing it in from the scrubbing you do while showering.

    I have 0.025 solution (cream) and I use gloves to massage the solution till its gone. The walgreens (stronger) solution is liquid... I didn't need to massage it, to feel it.
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