Kareem dropping some truths

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Negged

I bet you're the type of ******* who feels sympathetic for the dumbass who jumps in a lion's cage and gets his face mauled.

i lol'd

i literally have no idea how you turned ron artest's bipolar schizo behavior into that post.

i fully supported ron artest running into the stands. the only thing i was upset about is that he initially beat the chit out of the wrong person.

he's still almost entirely responsible for the pussification of the fouls called in the last 10 years.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Believe it or not but not every thread is a veiled attack at your god Lebron. I have no doubt Lebron would have been elite in the 90s, though I think he would have struggled if he hadn't gone to college for much longer than he did in the 00s. I also think coaches would have tried to make him into a power forward.

But if you have watched a lot of games since 1990, then you probably agree that eliminating hand checking in combination with all the touch fouls and the defensive 3 second rule, has made it way too easy for perimiter players to get to the paint, which is why 90% of all plays now are pick and roll for the 'point guard' and then penetration and kick out to the 3. It is very boring to watch the same over and over. Regardless, the teams that play team oriented basketball with proper big men like Indiana and Spurs continue to do well while almost every single team dependent on their backcourt struggles in the playoffs.

wasnt thinking about lebron for a single second when I wrote that post. getting rid of hand check has probably resulted in improved wing defenders because like i said the elite will always adapt and hand-checking allowed lesser defenders to keep up.

i see nothing wrong with defensive 3 seconds rules. as if there was a ton of strategy and skill involved in allowing a huge ******* to stand in the paint all game.

[FGCHENG]

not one person said that.. dat lack of comprehension

and again, in case youd idn't understand my last post..

"Universal truth is not measured in mass appeal"

Universal truth might not be measured in mass appeal, but in terms of comparing American sports today, it's a pretty damn good indicator. I mean the ratings speaks for itself.

Truth is NBA is just not the same product as it once was.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart...5-years-2013-6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ielsen_ratings

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Universal truth might not be measured in mass appeal, but in terms of comparing American sports today, it's a pretty damn good indicator. I mean the ratings speaks for itself.

Truth is NBA is just not the same product as it once was.

http://www.businessinsider.com/chart...5-years-2013-6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ielsen_ratings

revenues continue to climb to record highs

last years finals game 6:

Thursday’s game ranks as the second-highest rated and second-most viewed NBA game on any network since Bulls/Jazz Game 6 in 1998 (22.8, 35.9M), trailing only Game 7 in 2010.

[airdog93]

revenues continue to climb to record highs

last years finals game 6:

neat. flopping continues to grow, sleeved jerseys are becoming more commonplace, and the diva complex of nba players is growing

but yeah the NBA is heading in a good direction, because a lot of people watch it

[JamesGatz83]

revenues continue to climb to record highs

last years finals game 6:

Why are you using a single game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ielsen_ratings

The average rating for the 1998 Finals was 18.7, compared to 10.4 last year. There is no arguing that the NBA is decidedly less popular and appealing than it was in the Jordan era.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

neat. flopping continues to grow, sleeved jerseys are becoming more commonplace, and the diva complex of nba players is growing

but yeah the NBA is heading in a good direction, because a lot of people watch it

your strawman is weak as fuk cuz

you seem upset

[JamesGatz83]

your strawman is weak as fuk cuz

you seem upset

Yo, because you're suggesting he's upset, I have to assume you're upset. You mad, cuz? Yeah, you definitely rustled, bro.

LOL, idiot.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Why are you using a single game?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ielsen_ratings

The average rating for the 1998 Finals was 18.7, compared to 10.4 last year. There is no arguing that the NBA is decidedly less popular and appealing than it was in the Jordan era.

And it's decidedly more popular than it was in the immediate post-Jordan crash. I also forgot that the league's popularity is based solely on the average number of people in America watch a 7 game series, but not any one game of that series in particular. I also forgot that the league's attempt to make a fortune overseas has failed miserably. oh wait.




i lol'd. shut the fuk up u angry *******

[airdog93]

your strawman is weak as fuk cuz

you seem upset

i hear the elderly generally have low T...would explain your constant grumpiness and obsession with lebrons cawk

And it's decidedly more popular than it was in the immediate post-Jordan crash. I also forgot that the league's popularity is based solely on the average number of people in America watch a 7 game series, but not any one game of that series in particular. I also forgot that the league's attempt to make a fortune overseas has failed miserably. oh wait.




i lol'd. shut the fuk up u angry *******

you do realize Earth has become far more interconnected as a global system over the last 20 years right? Asia's access/ability to watch sports is not the same as the sport getting better/more popular

[jkeithc82]

So Durant and Kobe also had "Mt. Rushmore" picks and all had the same 3 players with each one picking a different fourth. No comments about that Kareem?

Kareem's ALWAYS been bitter though, so this is not surprising.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Yo, because you're suggesting he's upset, I have to assume you're upset. You mad, cuz? Yeah, you definitely rustled, bro.

LOL, idiot.

yo because we're talking about ratings and money and he starts talking about flopping and uniforms. do you even know what a strawman is you dumb fuk?

shut the fuk up. pls neg me again with a projection of your *******ry. no you cannot suck my cock you fairy godmother *******

[Daewoo_Lanos]

So Durant and Kobe also had "Mt. Rushmore" picks and all had the same 3 players with each one picking a different fourth. No comments about that Kareem?

Kareem's ALWAYS been bitter though, so this is not surprising.

brb where's my fkn statue?!

[cashinout]

So Durant and Kobe also had "Mt. Rushmore" picks and all had the same 3 players with each one picking a different fourth. No comments about that Kareem?

Kareem's ALWAYS been bitter though, so this is not surprising.

he even admits to having a full Lakers bias in that same interview

[Daewoo_Lanos]

i hear the elderly generally have low T...would explain your constant grumpiness and obsession with lebrons cawk



you do realize Earth has become far more interconnected as a global system over the last 20 years right? Asia's access/ability to watch sports is not the same as the sport getting better/more popular

yes, because those are fake revenue streams. if 10 million people in china rabidly spend money on my product, I am still poor and my product is unpopular because I live in Nebraska.

jk i would never live in a chithole like Nebraska.

[JamesGatz83]

yo because we're talking about ratings and money and he starts talking about flopping and uniforms. do you even know what a strawman is you dumb fuk?

shut the fuk up. pls neg me again with a projection of your *******ry. no you cannot suck my cock you fairy godmother *******

Yes, I'm aware of what a strawman is, you insolent little moron. I just find it amusing how your go-to line is "u mad" and its various equivalents--irrefutable proof that you are, in fact, an idiot.

Ratings over the course of a 7-game series are a much more significant indicator than ratings for a single game. Your best piece of evidence only illustrates that most fans can't be bothered to watch more than the potentially deciding game of the Finals these days.

And there hasn't been any real rebound after the post-Jordan crash. The highest rated series in the past 10 years was all the way back in 2004, which wasn't even competitive.

[airdog93]

yes, because those are fake revenue streams. if 10 million people in china rabidly spend money on my product, I am still poor and my product is unpopular because I live in Nebraska.

jk i would never live in a chithole like Nebraska.

the revenue streams reflect accessibility...if africa suddenly had better internet infrastructure, ad revenue would go through the roof without a single person clicking on an add.

lol@using an economic model when talking about quality. most people will watch whatever dog sh!t you throw on in front of them

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Yes, I'm aware of what a strawman is, you insolent little moron. I just find it amusing how your go-to line is "u mad" and its various equivalents--irrefutable proof that you are, in fact, an idiot.

Ratings over the course of a 7-game series are a much more significant indicator than ratings for a single game. Your best piece of evidence only illustrates that most fans can't be bothered to watch more than the potentially deciding game of the Finals these days.

And there hasn't been any real rebound after the post-Jordan crash. The highest rated series in the past 10 years was all the way back in 2004, which wasn't even competitive.

ITP a rebound documented by fact is not "real" because I say so

u mad? pls go.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

the revenue streams reflect accessibility...if africa suddenly had better internet infrastructure, ad revenue would go through the roof without a single person clicking on an add.

lol@using an economic model when talking about quality. most people will watch whatever dog sh!t you throw on in front of them

well chit i'm convinced.

you are awful at this. pls stop.

[alphadodger]

You actually have to have skill to play defense now a days.
Bigs are as impactful now because of the way defenses pack inside the arc. Which is why 3pt shooting is more relevant than ever.
NBA is about to enter another golden age in the next 5 years or so.
No one wants to watch unathletic players who cant dribble, so I wouldnt blame lebron for not watching old school ball
Players can learn the game while in the NBA I thought? Maybe I am wrong though.

Old man is bitter. NBA is a better product now than back then.

Age: 23



Tell us again how much basketball from Kareem's era you have watched.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

Age: 23



Tell us again how much basketball from Kareem's era you have watched.

age: 23

Tell us again how much basketball from Kareem's era you have watched.

[MCrow]

Age: 23



Tell us again how much basketball from Kareem's era you have watched.

I'm 36 and never saw him play in his prime. He was just outside of his prime when I first saw him play so all you you phuckers make me laugh.

[rusvik]

revenues continue to climb to record highs

last years finals game 6:

How many of those viewers are international compared to in the 90s. You now have millions of international fans who can actually watch the game. Just in China alone, there are tens of millions of fans who can watch the game on CCTV.

[rusvik]

Kareem has plenty of reason to be bitter. He is the clear GOAT big man, but because people only watched him in the 80s they think his geriatric self is the real Kareem. Go look up Kareem vs Wilt, he makes Wilt look slow and bad.

[SighGR]

No handchecking singlehandedly changed the focus of the game. It made mediocre guards look better than they are. It's a joke.



Players don't learn the game because they aren't taught proper fundamentals when they're young. By the time they get to college, it's too late

[MCrow]

Kareem has plenty of reason to be bitter. He is the clear GOAT big man, but because people only watched him in the 80s they think his geriatric self is the real Kareem. Go look up Kareem vs Wilt, he makes Wilt look slow and bad.

Clear GOAT? I don't think so.

How about a guy that averaged 30 points and 23 rebounds HIS ENTIRE CAREER?

Or 50 and 25 for a whole season and the next season averaged 45 and 24?

I'd probably take Wilt,Russell, Shaq, and Hakeem over him.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

How many of those viewers are international compared to in the 90s. You now have millions of international fans who can actually watch the game. Just in China alone, there are tens of millions of fans who can watch the game on CCTV.

None?

Unless I'm mistaken, the Nielsen ratings reported only cover US and canada.

[xnitemare]

Lol @ people saying NBA is better now than it has ever been before.



http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10...opular-mlb-2nd
NBA is behind auto-racing lol.

You do realize this is favorite sports. I will bet that 90% posting about NBA fans favorite sport is football, with their second being hockey, baseball or basketball... and no where close to being auto racing. And there is the nut jobs who favorite sport and probably the only sport they follow is auto racing.

[Daewoo_Lanos]

You do realize this is favorite sports. I will bet that 90% posting about NBA fans favorite sport is football, with their second being hockey, baseball or basketball... and no where close to being auto racing. And there is the nut jobs who favorite sport and probably the only sport they follow is auto racing.

This

Also, Bob barker is my brother crew

[BullBoy8]

Age: 23

Tell us again how much basketball from Kareem's era you have watched.

Oh shizzz, forgot you cant watch highlights and even full games from the past on youtube and other websites online now a days..........



oh wait