Fight Night 36 discussion - Machida vs Mousasi

**jamez123** · 02-15-2014, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by RagingGorilla

Belfort would annihilate Machida

100x more interested in belfort/chida than either of them against weedman. damn it.

**superamped** · 02-15-2014, 10:36 PM

anyone got gifs? machida head first diving in at the last second, lol u know after hes like wtf i couldve gotten koed cold with an up kick LOL. great fight

**jamez123** · 02-15-2014, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by John L

and this was one of his best wins.

idk about that... machida has taken out a lot of really notable 205'ers

**jamez123** · 02-15-2014, 10:39 PM

Dana White ********@danawhite 15m

Performance bonuses: Erick Silva and Charles Oliveira Fight: Machida vs Mousasi

**delinquent95** · 02-15-2014, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by John L

Watch his fights, he's clearly a very very skilled fighter. Machida is just one of the best fighters in the world and this was one of his best wins.

I've only seen the OSP fight, Latifa, and now this one. I've seen more than enough to recognise that this guy is talentless. Sorry, I'm not hating on the guy at all and like I said we share a background but the guy just acts lazy, lacks skills, and seems to not be passionate.

**delinquent95** · 02-15-2014, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by jamez123

Dana White ********@danawhite 15m

Performance bonuses: Erick Silva and Charles Oliveira Fight: Machida vs Mousasi

Yep it's official. Dana has dementia if he thinks Machida vs Mous deserved a bonus.

**superamped** · 02-15-2014, 10:41 PM

got it

LOL

**John L** · 02-15-2014, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by delinquent95

I've only seen the OSP fight, Latifa, and now this one. I've seen more than enough to recognise that this guy is talentless. Sorry, I'm hating on the guy at all and like I said we share a background but the guy just acts lazy, lacks skills, and seems to not be passionate.

Wait...you're the same guy that was trying to convince me that Overeems losses don't count in that other thread.

K den, moving along

**Addthefun123123** · 02-15-2014, 10:42 PM

Man oh man if Machida got knocked out by that upkick at the end lol

**jamez123** · 02-15-2014, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Addthefun123123

Man oh man if Machida got knocked out by that upkick at the end lol

woulda been one of the best fight endings ever lol

**delinquent95** · 02-15-2014, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by John L

Wait...you're the same guy that was trying to convince me that Overeems losses don't count in that other thread.

K den, moving along

Okay, maybe you saw that as absurd although it was perfectly logical. But I like how you don't want to respond to the fact that the 2 fights I saw him were against bums, and he looked mediocre.

I wasn't expecting a response.

**John L** · 02-15-2014, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by delinquent95

Okay, maybe you saw that as absurd although it was perfectly logical. But I like how you don't want to respond to the fact that the 2 fights I saw him were against bums, and he looked mediocre.

I wasn't expecting a response.

No one is going to deny that Mousasi has a big problem when it comes to his sense of urgency, and that he's content to coast against guys. He shut down OSP and Latifi, and they weren't particularly impressive performances at all but he looked far from mediocre.

**DeeTek08** · 02-15-2014, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by John L

Watch his fights, he's clearly a very very skilled fighter. Machida is just one of the best fighters in the world and this was one of his best wins.

negged...

jk repped.

**adrianisgnarly** · 02-15-2014, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by Addthefun123123

Man oh man if Machida got knocked out by that upkick at the end lol

Would've been epic.

Machida really did fight an almost perfect fight. No disrespect to Mousasi, but I gave him more credit leading up to the fight than what he showed in the cage. I know Lyoto is "mesmerizing", but I expected a lot more from Gegard.

**CanardLaque** · 02-15-2014, 10:58 PM

damn, that was a sick Lyoto tonight.

Sad Mouss lost and seemed like he had no answer for Machida but not taking away from the winner either.

**John L** · 02-15-2014, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by CanardLaque

damn, that was a sick Lyoto tonight.

Sad Mouss lost and seemed like he had no answer for Machida but not taking away from the winner either.

Mousasi just seems to always not give a chit in there. Most of the time he catches the other guy with something early and puts them away, but when he doesn't he fights like he just woke up and with no sense of urgency. It's very strange, he's got the tools to make some noise but you can't just let fights slip away from you against top opponents.

**mmondo13** · 02-15-2014, 11:02 PM

Machida vs Mousasi went just like I expected... Machida landed some decent shots, Mousasi looked like he doesn't care and is overrated.

169 sucked, tonight sucked, and next week will suck lol. The UFC needs to get their sh*t together. All these new Brazilian fighters coming up are f*ckin boring. I watch some of these fighters and I find myself thinking "what the f*ck am I watching?"

At least the cards will pick up in March with Lawler vs Hendricks.

**jamez123** · 02-15-2014, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by mmondo13

Machida vs Mousasi went just like I expected... Machida landed some decent shots, Mousasi looked like he doesn't care and is overrated.

169 sucked, tonight sucked, and next week will suck lol. The UFC needs to get their sh*t together. All these new Brazilian fighters coming up are f*ckin boring. I watch some of these fighters and I find myself thinking "what the f*ck am I watching?"

At least the cards will pick up in March with Lawler vs Hendricks.

eh.. can't complain about free brah. Theres a ton of free cards with good main/co-mains coming up.. just skip the rest of the fights.

**REB3190** · 02-15-2014, 11:09 PM

Machida fought well tonight; that early head kick would have taken out a fighter with a lesser chin (looked very similar to the kick that KO Munoz.) Good effort from Mousasi as well. His ground game from the bottom looked good (nice use of butterfly.) On a side note, it was good to see Silva come back with a solid TKO.

R.E.B.

**trainreqq** · 02-15-2014, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by mmondo13

Machida vs Mousasi went just like I expected... Machida landed some decent shots, Mousasi looked like he doesn't care and is overrated.

boring? Watching two top level contenders is boring? Great technical battle. Lyoto was impressive as always. Great footwork, great groundwork, almost perfect timing, and Mousasi just got outclassed on those aspects. For someone "anti-*******ry" you sure did provide a lot of it in this post

**mmondo13** · 02-15-2014, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by trainreqq

boring? Watching two top level contenders is boring? Great technical battle. Lyoto was impressive as always. Great footwork, great groundwork, almost perfect timing, and Mousasi just got outclassed on those aspects. For someone "anti-*******ry" you sure did provide a lot of it in this post

Lol calm down *******.

I don't find watching Mousasi stagger around like he's half asleep for 25 minutes exciting. Mousasi is not a top level contender either.

Vitor would destroy both of them.

**mmondo13** · 02-15-2014, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by jamez123

eh.. can't complain about free brah. Theres a ton of free cards with good main/co-mains coming up.. just skip the rest of the fights.

I know what you're saying brah, I'm just tired of watching fighters that barely belong on TUF.

**1800_Cool_Guy** · 02-15-2014, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by superamped

got it

LOL

Missed the fight. Was this a stoppage or the end of the round?

**likeke34** · 02-15-2014, 11:21 PM

I'm surprised so many people here thought that fight was boring. 3 headkicks (possibly more, just watched it), not to mention Mousasi taking the kick and trying to get a take down off of it, a spinning back kick, an attempted capoeira kick, some hard knees, that flying punch at the end which could have very well ended in a KO for either guy... These aren't things that happen in most fights. I thought it was a bit one sided with Machida picking Mousasi apart but there was that feeling that it could've ended at any time from both fighters. Just my opinion brahs

**adrianisgnarly** · 02-15-2014, 11:22 PM

Machida is the top contender at 185. I know they're likely gonna have Machida fight Jacare (which I have no issue with), but I believe Machida should be fighting for the title.

**mmaoz** · 02-15-2014, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by 1800_Cool_Guy

Missed the fight. Was this a stoppage or the end of the round?

end of the 5th round

**uchoom** · 02-15-2014, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by John L

Mousasi just seems to always not give a chit in there. Most of the time he catches the other guy with something early and puts them away, but when he doesn't he fights like he just woke up and with no sense of urgency. It's very strange, he's got the tools to make some noise but you can't just let fights slip away from you against top opponents.

The problem of rushing into machida (and risking getting ryan bader'd) + moussasi's slow plodding style meant this was always going to be a problem.

I need to rewatch shogun v machida to see how he was so effective in the stand up. has machida patched holes in his game? was hoping moussasi could find the same success.

even in defeat i think moussasi deserves more praise than he's getting, showed pretty good stand up, ground game, iron chin, ring rust wasn't a problem and he seems to have recovered from the ACL surgery.

throw bisping at him at let him work his way up to a contenders match.

**kleenguard** · 02-16-2014, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by DeeTek08

negged...

jk repped.

lol this is the first hat thief to give back a hat lol
he is going in the UFC Hall of Fame with the "Just Bleed Guy"

**delinquent95** · 02-16-2014, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by John L

No one is going to deny that Mousasi has a big problem when it comes to his sense of urgency, and that he's content to coast against guys. He shut down OSP and Latifi, and they weren't particularly impressive performances at all but he looked far from mediocre.

Yeah, he "shutdown" 2 mediocre fighters. It's not like he destroyed them though. If he was as good as everyone said he was, he'd have finished them, or atleast destroyed them like Reem destroyed Mir in a fight where he should've got the KO.

The problem with you trying to defend Mousasi is that you don't every say what it actually is that he's good at. All i keep hearing is you saying is "he's skilled" this and that...everyone's skilled...Moos just isn't very well skilled is all. He's lucky to be a gatekeeper.

**MaximusPlatypus** · 02-16-2014, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by mmondo13

Machida vs Mousasi went just like I expected... Machida landed some decent shots, Mousasi looked like he doesn't care and is overrated.

169 sucked, tonight sucked, and next week will suck lol. The UFC needs to get their sh*t together. All these new Brazilian fighters coming up are f*ckin boring. I watch some of these fighters and I find myself thinking "what the f*ck am I watching?"

At least the cards will pick up in March with Lawler vs Hendricks.

finally someone telling it like it is. I think we should pull up some of the cards from back in the day and compare them to the garbage being fed to us in the ufc now. Horrid year for fights so far. I'm skipping next week's PPV entirely. It's awful

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