I tried making this thread a few days back in the AM, little interest
It seems there are a lot of historibrahs on these forums.. people are interested in warrior cultures, ancient societies and so forth. I'm fairly knowledgeable on many of these topics, specialties focus around Gallic Wars-era Rome, Early Middle Ages (with limited War of the Roses / Hundred Years info), pre-Christian Scandinavia / Pagan cultures. I'd like to get a debate going, and maybe have others who are knowledgeable on these things hop in to answer questions or pose them. Will post sources whenever I'm at my PC or the info is relevant to a historical document or account. Any questions you guys have about weapons, tactics, daily life, et cetera, I'd love to take a crack at.
Crossing my fingers for you historibrahs to make this a good thread..
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Thread: Historical Question Thread
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01-09-2014, 07:23 PM #1
Historical Question Thread
"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:24 PM #2
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01-09-2014, 07:25 PM #3"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:29 PM #4
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01-09-2014, 07:31 PM #5"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:32 PM #6
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01-09-2014, 07:33 PM #7
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01-09-2014, 07:33 PM #8
Not a history student anymore, used to be for 2 years. Specialised in Pompeii and Herculaneum, Hatshepsut, Spartan society to the Battle of Leuctra 371 BC and New Kingdom Egypt to the death of Thutmose IV.
Glad to answer what I can. Up for a discussion too.
EDIT: Also knowledgeable in Australian society, from 1788-1945, although not ancient history. (Study in my own time, been doing so since 2011)♦ Paramedic students Crew.
♦ Always squat ATG Crew.
"The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what happens." - Arnold Schwarzenegger, the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
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01-09-2014, 07:34 PM #9"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:34 PM #10
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01-09-2014, 07:35 PM #11
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01-09-2014, 07:35 PM #12
Oh, lovely! Rounds out the spectrum for sure. I'm no expert, either.. if I was, I'd be posting in academic journals, not the Misc, lol. Working at a history minor and reading far too much.
Glad to have you.
Lol, have this thought often. Though I suppose certain things came with the territory if you lived then, and without knowing about their existence, we wouldn't be as afflicted. People in the future may look back and wonder how we got by without teleportation, or intangible condoms.. lol."I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:35 PM #13
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01-09-2014, 07:36 PM #14
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01-09-2014, 07:37 PM #15
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01-09-2014, 07:37 PM #16"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:39 PM #17
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01-09-2014, 07:40 PM #18
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01-09-2014, 07:40 PM #19"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:45 PM #20
Come on you Viking and Roman mirers... let's get it cracking.
"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:46 PM #21
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01-09-2014, 07:48 PM #22
Glad to see somebody else like what I like. Can I have your opinion/view on this?
ANZAC troops were sacrificed as human distractions advancing straight toward heavy Turkish artillery (machine guns lined up in rows) for the British to ambush from the East side, although some counter attacks were delayed, ANZACS still were used for nothing?♦ Paramedic students Crew.
♦ Always squat ATG Crew.
"The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what happens." - Arnold Schwarzenegger, the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
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01-09-2014, 07:50 PM #23"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 07:52 PM #24
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Tell me what you know about it brah.
Recently my dad researched his grandfather and he fought in the British Army in WWII. His job was to fight in Burma and to cut through the dense jungle to create paths for the rest of the soldiers. I remember being told that he used to say the Japanese hid in the top of the trees waiting to ambush and would tie themselves to the tree incase they fell out prior to ambush. Like most though he came back a different man apparently. Real interesting stuff. I've got the actual corps and regiment number around here somewhere.
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01-09-2014, 07:55 PM #25♦ Paramedic students Crew.
♦ Always squat ATG Crew.
"The last three or four reps is what makes the muscle grow. This area of pain divides the champion from someone else who is not a champion. That's what most people lack, having the guts to go on and just say they'll go through the pain no matter what happens." - Arnold Schwarzenegger, the greatest bodybuilder of all time.
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01-09-2014, 07:55 PM #26
That's incredible. Scary stuff, sounds like. Can't even imagine the dread of doing that duty with Japanese troops all around..
My grandfather was in the 30th Infantry, deployed to France just after D-Day as an auxiliary unit. He fought in St. Lo (had to carry pieces of his CO to body bags following a Stuka bombing), the outskirts of Aachen in Germany, some of the Netherlands, and the Bulge, where his unit was mistakenly bombed by Allied planes. His unit's jeep hit a landmine just before Christmas, and being one of two men to survive the explosion, some brave soul found him - near enemy lines - and carried him miles to a field HQ, where he recovered and was sent home. Other man who survived was found to have been captured by the SS and never returned. Brave man, died early from treatments for liver failure (shrapnel + 1940s medicine did that, I'd wager).
That was an insane time. Men were built of something strong, that's for sure.
It was certainly a questionable decision, but many of the reports I've read regarding the battle (sorry for no sources, don't recall the exact textbook) stated that the casualties were much lower than they'd have expected for a full-blown suicide diversion. I chalk it up to bad logistics and thoughtlessness on High Command's part. This was also a time where the casualty rate was so appalling, and the tactics were so crude, that it's hard to square it away with our sense of morality. Certainly could have been avoided.. I personally don't know why the ANZAC forces were selected for the duty, seeing as their training had concluded relatively recently.."I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 08:01 PM #27
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01-09-2014, 08:02 PM #28
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Get you started on military tactics and equipment. Swords or spears?
The spear, in its various forms, has been the mainstay of armies through most of recorded history but the Romans discarded the spear for the gladius. Granted, Roman military domination had more to do with logistics and a system of warfare than particular instruments but why did the Romans make that change?
The advantage of the spear over the short sword is obvious given the longer reach of the weapon. Given also that Roman warfare was predicated on formations (essentially a more flexible phalanx), the spear would be conducive to Roman-style warfare, since spear combat has generally involved some form of phalanx; seen in depictions of Sumerian spearmen in tight formation, the phalanxes of the Greek world, the spear and shield wall of Charles Martel, and the lines of tightly packed halberdiers from 16th and 17th century European warfare.
So why the sword? Why a seemingly inferior weapon with less reach that was more conducive to single combat than Roman-style warfare? And given that the Romans used the gladius as a stabbing weapon as a spear would be used, why not take advantage of the longer reach of the spear?
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01-09-2014, 08:02 PM #29"I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing...
Only I will remain."
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01-09-2014, 08:06 PM #30
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