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    Someone explain the bible

    Explain to me why you believe in its? I have 2 hours of boredom, please amuse me.
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    delusional people who have it shoved it down their throats by their parents

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    Some guy came to our campus and started talking chit about gay people. A bunch of people came and defended the LGBT. I was thinking the whole time that this one guy has balls for coming to a state uni and preaching that bs. Religion is about having faith and creating a community, not literally believing and following the bible. It's 2014 ffs.
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    People believe it for the same reasons they believe any other religious text. They could all be completely made up for all humanity knows, but you gotta have faith if thats what you choose to believe in
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    Originally Posted by arlo235 View Post
    Some guy came to our campus and started talking chit about gay people. A bunch of people came and defended the LGBT. I was thinking the whole time that this one guy has balls for coming to a state uni and preaching that bs. Religion is about having faith and creating a community, not literally believing and following the bible. It's 2014 ffs.
    well said, that is much more important than following the bible word for word, but so many people fail to understand that
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    I guess I'll ask questions as they come to me


    Why do people think "telling your sins" Clense your soul? Aware me how that works.

    My issue you with the bible is that your good because you feel there's a reward be good to be good.
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    Originally Posted by GROSO View Post
    I guess I'll ask questions as they come to me


    Why do people think "telling your sins" Clense your soul? Aware me how that works
    telling sins to who? if u mean other people it doesnt say that in the bible thats a catholic thing.

    i read the bible as if i was stuck on an island and read it for what it is not what other people tell me.

    We dont do good because of a reward or fear. We do good because thats what we were originally supposed to be before sin entered the world from adam and eve disobeying God.

    God then sent Jesus to die for our sins that we as a human race did from adam and eve and he died on the cross so when we die we can go to heaven and live how we were originally supposed to free of sin.
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    Originally Posted by GROSO View Post
    My issue you with the bible is that your good because you feel there's a reward be good to be good.
    Not religious, don't believe in the bible but I'll respond to this anyways.

    Just because there IS a reward, does not necessarily mean you're doing it FOR the reward.
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    Originally Posted by Azza84 View Post
    telling sins to who? if u mean other people it doesnt say that in the bible thats a catholic thing.

    i read the bible as if i was stuck on an island and read it for what it is not what other people tell me.

    We dont do good because of a reward or fear. We do good because thats what we were originally supposed to be before sin entered the world from adam and eve disobeying God.

    God then sent Jesus to die for our sins that we as a human race did from adam and eve and he died on the cross so when we die we can go to heaven and live how we were originally supposed to free of sin.
    Okay Adam and Eve issue, where'd black people come from and where aren't there more mentally disabled come from??

    So this book from "4000" years (lolololol) decided whats good for eternity?
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    Originally Posted by GROSO View Post
    Okay Adam and Eve issue, where'd black people come from and where aren't there more mentally disabled come from??

    So this book from "4000" years (lolololol) decided whats good for eternity?
    ill pray for ya man. have a good one.
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    Originally Posted by SamSB View Post
    Not religious, don't believe in the bible but I'll respond to this anyways.

    Just because there IS a reward, does not necessarily mean you're doing it FOR the reward.
    Well this has to do with economics, but people respond to incentives. If you are a rational thinker, you tend to do what gives you a reward or an advantage. If being faithful and truthful makes someone feel rewarded and cleansed, then good for them. Like I sad, its all about having faith and being strong. Don't let evil take you down.
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    Originally Posted by GROSO View Post
    Okay Adam and Eve issue, where'd black people come from and where aren't there more mentally disabled come from??

    So this book from "4000" years (lolololol) decided whats good for eternity?
    I heard that the guys who wrote the bible were on opium or some other drug when they came up with these stories. Interdasting. Doesn't mean its fake though! You will never know! Don't bash religion people.
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    Originally Posted by Azza84 View Post
    telling sins to who? if u mean other people it doesnt say that in the bible thats a catholic thing.

    i read the bible as if i was stuck on an island and read it for what it is not what other people tell me.

    We dont do good because of a reward or fear. We do good because thats what we were originally supposed to be before sin entered the world from adam and eve disobeying God.

    God then sent Jesus to die for our sins that we as a human race did from adam and eve and he died on the cross so when we die we can go to heaven and live how we were originally supposed to free of sin.
    lol @ adam and eve and "god" sending someone

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    ill pray for ya man. have a good one.
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    Originally Posted by arlo235 View Post
    Religion is about having faith and creating a community, not literally believing and following the bible.
    Thats not even true in the slightest. I always love it when atheists tell Christians what they are supposed to do.

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    My issue you with the bible is that your good because you feel there's a reward be good to be good.
    This is also not true. We are chosen to be made holy, not because we are holy.
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    Originally Posted by arlo235 View Post
    I heard that the guys who wrote the bible were on opium or some other drug when they came up with these stories. Interdasting. Doesn't mean its fake though! You will never know! Don't bash religion people.
    They were mushrooms. The bible was translated multiple times look up the seascrolls bible that describes it.

    However the idea of a "god" is ridiculous. God is nothing more than the concept of "fate" which is nothin more than conglomeration of choices.

    @tb explain why god>"devil"
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    @tb explain why god>"devil"
    Satan is a fallen angel. God created the angels. Although he is very powerful, Satan is ultimately a finite creature who is by no means a match for an infinite God.

    I'm heading out btw, so if you have any further questions I'd actually recommend visiting the Religion and Politics section on this site, there are some knowledgeable posters down there.
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    Originally Posted by Tb0282 View Post
    Satan is a fallen angel. God created the angels. Although he is very powerful, Satan is ultimately a finite creature who is by no means a match for an infinite God.

    I'm heading out btw, so if you have any further questions I'd actually recommend visiting the Religion and Politics section on this site, there are some knowledgeable posters down there.
    I follow but who says Satan isn't actually a cool dude?

    You don't see Satan with a book chirping god.
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    Originally Posted by Tb0282 View Post
    Thats not even true in the slightest. I always love it when atheists tell Christians what they are supposed to do.



    This is also not true. We are chosen to be made holy, not because we are holy.
    I believe that one day aliens are going to come and save the world. I'm holding my breath. Hopefully they like to lift.
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    Originally Posted by Azza84 View Post
    telling sins to who? if u mean other people it doesnt say that in the bible thats a catholic thing.

    i read the bible as if i was stuck on an island and read it for what it is not what other people tell me.

    We dont do good because of a reward or fear. We do good because thats what we were originally supposed to be before sin entered the world from adam and eve disobeying God.

    God then sent Jesus to die for our sins that we as a human race did from adam and eve and he died on the cross so when we die we can go to heaven and live how we were originally supposed to free of sin.
    I try to 'respect' others beliefs but cot dayum. Just read over what you wrote. Just look at how silly all that sounds.
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    Okay Adam and Eve issue, where'd black people come from and where aren't there more mentally disabled come from??

    So this book from "4000" years (lolololol) decided whats good for eternity?

    Adam and eve weren't white. They had the genetic make-up of all of humanity. The diversity now is micro evolution. People naturally married people who looked like them, and then they moved around, and then Pangaea spit and that results in what we have today.
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    end this will not well.
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    Originally Posted by NicholasMango View Post
    Adam and eve weren't white. They had the genetic make-up of all of humanity. The diversity now is micro evolution. People naturally married people who looked like them, and then they moved around, and then Pangaea spit and that results in what we have today.
    How do you now Satan is bad???
    I've sinned and sinning is awesome
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    Originally Posted by GROSO View Post
    How do you now Satan is bad???
    I've sinned and sinning is awesome
    Do you want to ask me a question that isn't a waste of my time?

    Seriously. Grow up.
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    Originally Posted by NicholasMango View Post
    Do you want to ask me a question that isn't a waste of my time?

    Seriously. Grow up.
    You know, I've seen a few of your posts and IIRC they have generally been fairly intelligent/well-informed... So I'll bite (assuming you're a theist of some sort)...

    When I am evaluating a situation I first look at the empirical, objective, factual evidence... I think it's safe to say that this is certainly lacking when it comes to "god."

    Provided there is no undeniable evidence, I use background knowledge and common sense to come up with a conclusion. Now I highly doubt you would consider a book as significant background knowledge, and I'm sure your common sense doesn't tell you there is an almighty being that created you....


    I guess my question is this- how does an otherwise intelligent/logical person come to the conclusion that god is real and he made humans and etc etc etc?
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    Originally Posted by DDon1996 View Post
    You know, I've seen a few of your posts and IIRC they have generally been fairly intelligent/well-informed... So I'll bite (assuming you're a theist of some sort)...

    When I am evaluating a situation I first look at the empirical, objective, factual evidence... I think it's safe to say that this is certainly lacking when it comes to "god."

    Provided there is no undeniable evidence, I use background knowledge and common sense to come up with a conclusion. Now I highly doubt you would consider a book as significant background knowledge, and I'm sure your common sense doesn't tell you there is an almighty being that created you....


    I guess my question is this- how does an otherwise intelligent/logical person come to the conclusion that god is real and he made humans and etc etc etc?
    Gonna Pull from this, what if gods bad and satans good. I don't see the devil slandering god. I'm also prett sure devil gave us freedom of choice.

    When god does something bad it's "god works in mysterious ways" so I guess Ill go to your house make sure you walk in on me and your mom porkin. I will simply claim I work in mysterious ways. See the illogical arguements thrown at us non biblical people .
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