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    Blinded With Science? Your college major is probably the most obvious and outright opportunity for you to distance yourself from the standard premed stereotype. Surprisingly, countless premeds enter college and insist that a science major should not only prepare them well for medical school but also boost their chances for admission. Ironically, as scientists, if they were to seek out the facts, they would easily dismantle their misguided assumption. Take, for example, the 1998 statistics from the Association of American Medical Colleges-the organization that runs the American Medical College Application Service-showing applicants' acceptance rates, broken down by major:

    All majors 37%
    Biology 35%
    Chemistry 39%
    Physics 42%
    Biochemistry 43%
    English 46%
    History 49%
    Philosophy 50%


    As you can see, humanities majors have higher acceptance rates than science majors. This is a simple fact that many premeds simply ignore, as presumptions are handed down from one ill-informed class to the next. But the numbers are powerful-a 50 percent chance of admission means that a philosophy major can fill out a med school application, then flip a coin to determine whether or not to send it in: heads, they're accepted; tails, they're not. The rest have to take their chances with even more unreliable probabilities.

    Granted, there are far more science majors applying to med school than humanities majors, on the order of 14:1. And science majors do get into medical school in total higher numbers. But percentages are more important in this case because percentages determine chances.

    Think of it this way. Imagine you are a med school admissions dean with 5,000 applications sitting in front of you. As you go through them, one by one, a pattern develops-one that paints a picture of the standard premed applicant, over and over and over again. An admissions dean usually asks two questions when considering each applicant: Is this person qualified for acceptance? Will this person add something interesting to the class?

    Lest any of you really think that an admissions dean looks forward to admitting a class of 125 biology majors with 4.0 GPAs, think again. A medical school class is determined to be diverse and vibrant, made up of students with assorted experiences, interests and skills. By presenting the standard application-one that says, "I'm average and usual! Pick me!"-you effectively hamper the school's efforts to select a diverse class.

    Now imagine running across an applicant with a major in history or philosophy. Most likely, you will immediately transfer that applicant's name to memory and take a decidedly curious interest in that application. This is what happens with admissions deans, and this explains why humanities majors have a higher chance of admission.

    On another note, with regards to the idea that studying the sciences may help prepare you for the medical school curriculum, there is no added value to maximizing your science intake as an undergraduate. If it were the case, medical schools would probably encourage you to bone up as much as possible before starting school so that you don't fail out. They should also offer advanced placement credit for those advanced-level science courses that some undergraduates crave. But they don't, and the reason is that medical schools want you to be a well-developed student with a well-rounded education.

    The courses in medical school are far more difficult than any undergraduate-level offering. Take one look at any medical school class preparing for final exams and you will see students with honors degrees in biochemistry struggling alongside the history majors.

    So, no point in fortifying your science knowledge at the expense of your other vast collegiate opportunities. In fact, studies have shown that students of science and humanities majors do equally well in medical school and beyond. The basic minimum requirements for medical school admission is one year of biology, one year of chemistry, one year of organic chemistry and one year of physics. That's it, and that's all you need. Some medical schools may require a year of mathematics or English, but those are typically required in any undergraduate curriculum such that you'd be hard pressed to graduate without them.

    So what does this mean to you? If you're at all interested in the humanities, then study them in college. Select one as your major, and do well in those classes. Take the minimum science requirements and apply to medical school. There is no compelling reason for you to jettison your personal interests for four years in science. Some may say that you'll have very little time and few opportunities to enjoy the humanities later as a physician, so make the most of it in college. These are wise words.

    Conversely, if you are truly interested in the sciences, if running gels, titrating solutions and examining shark innards are your cat's meow, then by all means you should major in the sciences. The point is that you should study what you enjoy and do well in those courses. Whether it's philosophy, biology, mathematics, economics, music, art history, physics, or biochemistry, study what you like. No major provides better preparation for medical education or medicine than any other, and you should never select a science major because of the assumption that it will give you an extra advantage in medical
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    But meanwhile, getting into med school for some neckbeard is a matter of flipping a coin.
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    Nice source RED, 1998 is too long ago, the system has changed, the requirements, even the MCAT will change.
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    it's because

    1) philosophy/history have much easier degree requirements, allowing for a higher GPA

    2) medical schools want diversity, not little clones coming out of biology programs
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    Nice source RED, 1998 is too long ago, the system has changed, the requirements, even the MCAT will change.
    Not by much.

    Medical schools still only require "pre-med" which is still jerk-off-the-mill basic science courses with labs.
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    Originally Posted by neighborr View Post
    it's because

    1) philosophy/history have much easier degree requirements, allowing for a higher GPA

    2) medical schools want diversity, not little clones coming out of biology programs
    This guy knows what's up. You still can do "pre reqs" while in other degrees...
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