Thanks man, I’ll look it up.
Nope, not a roll bread.
This. When I’m angry I have zero problems at all. Frustration on the other hand is a deal breaker on talking effectively
I was once at this house party of a friend of a friend when I was about 23. The owner of the house asked me to ask someone that just pulled up to move their car out of the driveway and park across the street. I thought oh fuk here we go. I walk up to him and his 2 buddies and do my best to ask them to move. I think I stuttered through 3 or 4 words and he yells out “Can we get someone over here that can actually talk?”
I literally lost my **** and saw red. I looked him dead in the eye and said in perfectly fluency “I have a fuking speech impediment and if you have a problem with that I have no problem in kicking your ass and embarrassing you in front of your 2 boyfriends here. Now move your fuking car!” He went white, backed up, and starting apologizing and didn’t stop apologizing all night. I’m 5’5” and he was about 6” but I was ready to go toe to toe.
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02-05-2014, 10:39 AM #91
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02-05-2014, 10:54 AM #92
Some girls think it’s adorable. A girl once told me that she was flattered that I was trying this hard just to talk to her. We ended up dating for a while. Not going to lie though some girls, and some people in general , think you’re a weirdo but this is because they just don’t understand or expect to meet someone with a stutter/stammer.
When I was in my early to mid-twenties I remember girls giving me their phone numbers and just threw them away because I knew (or rather convinced myself) that I could never get through the first phone call. Depressing stuff man, not going to lie.
I think I was about 23 and was on my motorcycle on the freeway. Traffic came to a dead stop and I wasn’t really paying attention. I almost rear-ended this car full of girls but quickly split the cars by a matter of inches. I pulled over to the shoulder when I could to collect myself. The car full girls pulled behind me. The driver was super cute and in her early twenties. Seeing what just happened she walks up and asked if I was ok. With the adrenaline pumping I guess I was talking just fine. She gave me her phone number and told me to call her.
I called her several days later. Her brother answered the phone. I asked if she was there stuttering the whole way. He told me to call back tomorrow. When I did he answered again and I could hear her in the background. He said that she didn’t live here anymore and to not call. The sheer frustration was beyond words. Those feels…
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02-05-2014, 11:03 AM #93
Nope
I’ve always wanted to bang a deaf girl to. Weird.
Thanks man. It has greatly improved. Breathing exercising have helped. Also, changing the way you see words has probably helped the most. Instead of seeing words as things or objects that you are physically trying to force out you have to see them as just sounds made by moving air. It’s challenging because you’ve spent your whole life trying to force out words.
I don’t stutter continuously. I couldn’t imagine dealing with never getting any relieve what so ever. I don’t or rarely stutter around my family. I rarely stutter around a girlfriend. And I never stutter when I’m alone, singing, or talking to animals or children. This is true with a lot of stutters.
If life is becoming stressful than that will cause my overall stuttering to increase. Even if I’m not conscious of the stress my stuttering with react.
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02-05-2014, 11:15 AM #94
Wut?
Self employed. I own a moving business and just started a party bus business. A lot of face time and phone time with other people . Challenging at times but I essentially through myself into the fire. I’ve been where you’re at. How can I do x y and z if I can’t say my own name? You have to dig deep and not let it beat you. Not putting yourself out there isn’t an option. We’re all going to make it.
Amen brother. But I’ve figured out that it sounds 10x worse in your own head. Srs. You have to own it. At least your 5’11” 215. I’m 5’5” 182. We all have our strengths and weaknesses.
I have. That is really fukked up. I’m convinced that deep grained physiological trauma and issues are the root of the problem.
No.
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02-05-2014, 11:17 AM #95
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02-05-2014, 01:00 PM #96
Taking any anti anxiety medication? My former professor (Phd, CCC-SLP) is a severe stutter, was amazing to hear his life experiences due to his stutter, such a great mind and respectable man.
And to the other poster, yes it is beyond annoying hearing people say they were a stutter as a kid, there is a huge difference between minor articulation disorders and a true stuttering impediment.
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02-05-2014, 01:05 PM #97
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02-05-2014, 01:14 PM #98
I went through years and years of speech therapy. I had terrible anxiety and depression as a teenager. I went through several meds but I can honestly say none of them made my speech any better. IMHO anti-depressants actually make a lot of people's depression worse. They made me worse. I went cold turkey back in 2008 and manage my depression/anxiety now. The best anti-depressant for me was just to finely not give a **** what anyone thinks of my stutter. I still stutter but could really not care anymore what anyone thinks about it.
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02-05-2014, 01:20 PM #99
I've been on and off anti anxiety meds (more of. than on). I would improve for about a month or so as I felt the affects of the meds. After awhile I would the initial improvements would fade. I hated the way I felt on them. Flighty yet emotionally flat at the same time. No thanks.
They're are lots of support groups out there. I'm sure you would find people that are similar age. There's some kind of national conference that I want to go to eventually. Looking at some of the videos and pics there's no serious hbbs with stutters.
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02-05-2014, 01:22 PM #100
Crazy, Ive met many stutters (mostly male, testosterone may have a minor connection with this fluency disorder). Their are support groups and gatherings for stutters, call or email your local universities that offer a speech disorder program, they will be able to give you a lot of useful information regarding support groups.
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02-05-2014, 01:39 PM #101
I stutter on occasion but my real problem is communicating effectively. (my words would get all jumbled up etc) I went through high school with a B avg (never tried), and when I hit my freshman year of college i started stuttering/ losing my ability to carry on conversations with people I didnt know and sometimes with people that were close to me. I had to drop out last year b/c it was really affecting my self-esteem etc.
Since then I've been put on Prozac, and klonopin and it helps some-what but I am no where near the communication capabilities I had in HS.
Do you think my stuttering / communication problems occur solely because of my anxiety or do you think i developed some kind of speech impediment.
srs
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02-05-2014, 01:49 PM #102
It can be combination, one thing that may be causing you to stutter is now you are aware of it, so it increases the anxiety before and during speech, leading to disfluencies. There are a lot of techniques you can do in the privacy of your own home.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Speech-...ing_Techniques
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02-05-2014, 01:53 PM #103
That's a tough one. Based on my experience there's rarely one reason for stuttering but rather a combination of things that compound the problem. Do you think that the reason why your stumbling through a conversation and your words being jumbled is that you are trying to find substitutes for your "problem words" and are trying to change sentences on the fly?
I've discovered that usually when my conversation skills break down it's because my mind is racing as I try to identify potential problem words that may come up and ways to avoid them. I can't collect my thoughts and I can't keep up with what the other person is saying.
Sounds like your like me in that you are having social anxiety because of your stuttering and your stuttering because of your anxiety. Any events that you can pinpoint or changes you went through transitioning from high school to college that may increase your anxiety?Last edited by DoubleDeuced; 02-05-2014 at 01:58 PM.
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02-05-2014, 05:01 PM #104
It was really, really difficult for her growing up. She always felt abnormal and different, as most of the people she talked to had never spoken to anyone with a speech impediment before and naturally were very ignorant. As she grew older she became more comfortable in her own skin and stopped caring what people thought, and she's truly one of the strongest people I know.
I didn't know that men tend to have it more than women, that's interesting This may have been asked, but how did you handle it growing up?*Positive Crew*
*Never Neg Crew* :)
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02-05-2014, 05:18 PM #105
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02-05-2014, 05:52 PM #106
Been a stutterer since about 3. I stutter all the time, when I am out of my comfort zone, so basically with new faces and in new unfamiliar situations. My stutter is certainly related to anxiety and I am in my head all the time. I always used to avoid speaking situations, and situations where I was feeling more anxious... In the last 4-5 months, I been trying to change my attitude towards my stutter, accept it and doing things which I was afraid of doing, ex. Doing loads of phone calls, talking to strangers, introducing myself if I get a chance, saying words that I know I will stutter on. Stuttering with people on purpose really helps me as this is when I can try different speaking techniques to get out of the block, while stuttering in a relaxed way. I still get anxious in approaching a new situation but it's like a sport now and hope one day fear will gone.
OP what sort of breathing exercises are you doing? Have you tried mindfulness/meditation? What was the toughest speaking situation you ever been in and learned most from? Thanks
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02-05-2014, 05:54 PM #107
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02-05-2014, 06:32 PM #108
I felt exactly the same growing up. I spent way too long trying to hide it and afraid of being judged. All of this was realy counter productive in developing ways to improve my speech.
I would avoid social situations and isolated myself. I was really depressed through my teens and twenties. Eventually I stopped being so afraid and try to embrace it. Facing your demons in a way. My speech and social skills improved dramatically. I truely was my own worst enemy.
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02-05-2014, 06:45 PM #109
There's a book that talks about The valsalva mechanism discussed earlier in this thread. I forget the title but it theorizes that the valsalva mechanism prevents air from entering or leaving your lungs and cuts off air to your vocal cords. The same muscles that are activated when you cough, vomit, defecate are overly used when trying to talk. You try to force the words out. The book i s full of exercises. I'll pm you the title.
I was 12 and was giving a talk in church in front of the whole congregation. I couldn't get past the 2nd sentence. The harder I tried tje worst it got. Eventually my mom came up and finished it for me. I was so humiliated. I learned that no one was going to fix or deal with this except me. This was a close 2nd to that book report freshman year of high school I mentioned earlier.
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02-05-2014, 07:38 PM #110
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02-05-2014, 09:43 PM #111
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