Christian Brahs - Can you explain who killed jesus and why? srs, i dont get it 4.5k

[saltyscrot]

i heard that the romans killed jesus
i also heard that the jewish killed jesus.

i went to a church in Melbourne over the weekend and there was pictures of romans killing him. WTF was he doing in Rome anyway?

and why did he even get killed?

no hate, just srs. i watched south park and they said the jews did it. im confused misc.

[kiaorabrah]

[Chdawares]

Hey-Zeus was a Jew. Was he killed by his own people? It's the original who dunnit. Silly make believe stories.

[4DVTEC]

The priests of the Jews set Jesus up (for storming a temple/synagogue) and the Romans who governed the area convicted him and actually preformed the crucifixion.

[Durg]

Probably best to open a history book than ask religious people.

With regards to the Roman shiz, Judea (roughly modern Israel) was a Roman province at the time. Crucifixion was a popular form of execution where the prisoner would die after roughly 3-4 days from either starvation/exposure, the pain or from their heart giving out due to the pressure put on it from the way the arms were positioned. It wasn't uncommon for those crucified to be stuck with a spear to speed the dying up because they would make a hell of a noise (and mess).

[Archangel_Lost]

jews sentenced/called for execution, roman soldiers n sh*t did the hammering

[kwwwkx]

The US government did it

[Dutchspliff]

indirectly

[saltyscrot]

The priests of the Jews set Jesus up (for storming a temple/synagogue) and the Romans who governed the area convicted him and actually preformed the crucifixion.

oohhhhh.

but if jesus was mentioned in the bible, i guess they would have known not to kill him??

or did he come before the bible?

also. did he die and come back? cause the church i was in mentioned nothing about that either.

[jembojumba]

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[amenccm]

Jews complained to the romans (Pontius pilate)
Pontius wasn't too fussed, but setenced Him to death because of mob pressure
Some people think that, even though Jesus was crucified, it was a roman solider's spear that killed him. I learnt that from Constantine.

[smokinal]

oohhhhh.

but if jesus was mentioned in the bible, i guess they would have known not to kill him??

or did he come before the bible?

also. did he die and come back? cause the church i was in mentioned nothing about that either.

He was cricified on Good Friday (3 days before Easter) and Easter is the day he rose from the dead, exited the cave he was entombed in and went to show his desciples.

[kneeonbelly]

The jewish people at the time were basically running things with all their 'laws' and 'rules' to love God. they also used that fear to control people with the fear that if they didn't do everything they asked they would go to hell

Jesus came along and said its not like that, God loves you as you are and it undermined the Jewish leaders at the time. so they set him up. They had Judas , Jesus boy, get paid to turn over Jesus to the local authorities - the Romans.

they had a law of blasphemy, which the penalty was Death. they asked Jesus if he was God. He said Yes. So by law they had to crucify him even though they Admitted Jesus really didn't do anything wrong.

So the Romans gave him the cross but the Jewish leaders set it up

[4DVTEC]

oohhhhh.

but if jesus was mentioned in the bible, i guess they would have known not to kill him??

or did he come before the bible?

also. did he die and come back? cause the church i was in mentioned nothing about that either.

Bible is split into two; (Well Catholic Atleast)
Old Testament - before Jesus,
New Testament - After Jesus

Bible was created after Jesus, and was the works of his disciples.

What the Jews (Remember Jesus was also a jew) Studied would be an earlier version of the torah.

According to Christianity he died on the cross & resurrected 3 days later.
Hence the holiday "Easter" & why no red meat on friday (Death of christ) & the eggs on sunday symoblize creation & birth.
If i missed anything let me know, At work.

[Durg]

oohhhhh.

but if jesus was mentioned in the bible, i guess they would have known not to kill him??

or did he come before the bible?

also. did he die and come back? cause the church i was in mentioned nothing about that either.

The Bible is a Christian text, and Christianity came after Christ (hence the name). Judaism was the religion that was practiced in that region.

The last bit, debatable. Scriptures have been rewritten so many times, with bits taken out or bits added in. It is possible he was taken down from the cross when they thought he was dead but probably just unconscious, with him regaining consciousness for a short time being taken as a "resurrection" rather than a "resuscitation".

[saltyscrot]

He was cricified on Good Friday (3 days before Easter) and Easter is the day he rose from the dead, exited the cave he was entombed in and went to show his desciples.

ok so he come back to life. told everyone about it.

then what, did he die again? sorry for all the questions fellas.

[thebencher900lb]

Many say Judas killed him, because due to him betraying Jesus, the events eventually led to his death.

But Pontius Pilate is the one who gave the order. Funny as it sounds, when Jesus was brought before Pilate, Pilate found no wrongdoing of Jesus. He was peer pressured by the angry crowd awaiting outside to hear his sentence as well as his advisers.

Conclusion? Pilate found no wrongdoing of Jesus, yet still sentenced him to death because of the agry crowd and his adviser. Also, he feared that he would be voted out of office if he did not make this sentence.

[ppself]

ok so he come back to life. told everyone about it.

then what, did he die again? sorry for all the questions fellas.

He hung out with a lot of people for 40 days after his resurrection. Up to 400 people witnessed this.

He then ascended to the heavens and has not came back.

When he does come back. Things are going to suck for a lot of people.

[kneeonbelly]

ok so he come back to life. told everyone about it.

then what, did he die again? sorry for all the questions fellas.

he ascended into heaven after meeting with his disciples who ,after seeing their leader on the cross, quit and went back to fishing. he commissioned them and they went out preaching which created the church as we know it now

[irollurmom]

ok so he come back to life. told everyone about it.

then what, did he die again? sorry for all the questions fellas.

He came back from the dead in front of his disciples and rose to heaven. His disciples then spread his message in the form of the bible.

I could be wrong, but that's what I remember.

[PotatosGonPotat]

Just as jews create wars today even though we think nations do, they killed jesus even though they had people believe the Romans did it. Jew Gon Jew

[Lunatic]

If you say Jesus backwards it sounds like sausage.

[kneeonbelly]

He came back from the dead in front of his disciples and rose to heaven. His disciples then spread his message in the form of the bible.

I could be wrong, but that's what I remember.

yup, the disciples wrote Mathew mark luke and john, acts and a maybe one or two others - but Paul wrote majority of the New Testament

[ppself]

He came back from the dead in front of his disciples and rose to heaven. His disciples then spread his message in the form of the bible.

I could be wrong, but that's what I remember.

It was the women who saw Jesus first. Then the 12 saw him. Some before others. Since they were not all together.

Then Jesus stayed on earth for 40 days fellowshipping with those who came to see him, i think. It doesn't say what he did during most of that time. Just that up 400 people saw him. Just says he ate meals with people and hung out.

[Chdawares]

Op google the Dead Sea scrolls and the story of the teacher. They found text still in tact carbon dated to around 3000 years ago of the exact "Christ" story. This story was repeated throughout history and probably never actually happened. It's all fairy tales and make believe.

[ANumber1]

The Misc is an excellent resource for understanding history.

[saltyscrot]

He hung out with a lot of people for 40 days after his resurrection. Up to 400 people witnessed this.

He then ascended to the heavens and has not came back.

When he does come back. Things are going to suck for a lot of people.

....fuk

he ascended into heaven after meeting with his disciples who ,after seeing their leader on the cross, quit and went back to fishing. he commissioned them and they went out preaching which created the church as we know it now

well, if jesus went to heaven? why did the jews convert after witnessing that? i mean what more proof do you need to believe the son of god?

[kneeonbelly]

Op google the Dead Sea scrolls and the story of the teacher. They found text still in tact carbon dated to around 3000 years ago of the exact "Christ" story. This story was repeated throughout history and probably never actually happened. It's all fairy tales and make believe.

it's hard to say it's a fairy tale when Jesus had interactions with rome - which has history with his execution

[kneeonbelly]

....fuk



well, if jesus went to heaven? why did the jews convert after witnessing that?

some did and some didn't. it was a matter of faith. some people thought Jesus was crazy, some thought of him as a political person; the story of him riding into town on the donkey , some say was his way of making fun of Caesar who had grand entrances into town. some people believed him as the Messiah expected to save Gods people as stated in the old test. so they followed.

[Chdawares]

it's hard to say it's a fairy tale when Jesus had interactions with rome - which has history with his execution

Really now who possesses such documents? It wouldn't be the Roman Catholic Church? They are a repeatable truthful organization that never withholds or covers up the "truth"