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    Those poverty languages you mentioned above are actually what bodybuilding.com is built on?

    But I guess you wouldnt understand that.
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    Programing is the single best skill you can get in the world right now....period. But do not be fooled, you have to be good at what you do and have to be good in logical thinking as you will be responsible to create and design new programs. I left school in my last year before coming back at age 29 to finish my degree. I learned PHP, .NET, Objective-C, Android like the back of my hand and built some cool apps and applications. That got me noticed I started making more money then almost my entire EE + CE graduating class because I wasnt going to stand for the bull**** the UC system puts their students through. I.E. get a degree and pay 25,000 a semester. THESE KIDS HAVE NO JOBS!

    Dont worry about outsourcing, US employers want smart people who can code, not dimwitted indians with no people skills.
    So you believe building your own portfolio had more of impact on getting a job than the degree? That worries me if I'm going to spend money for a degree.

    Do you think going the programming route is the best direction to take as opposed to things like cyber security, malware, information systems?
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    Originally Posted by WileyKat View Post
    I tell it how it is, you dont like it then GTFO of this thread *******.

    You want to be fed that cock bull**** your college career advisory department wants to feed you go for it.

    Almost 60% of new grads cant find jobs today. We are in a recession. People are firing not hiring.

    Stop being a delusional ******* and wake the **** up idiot.
    calling me delusional when you're trying to tell someone to drop out of college and become a programmer because the starting pay is 95k?

    are you too much of a ***got to realize that you need that piece of paper (degree), to even qualify for that job?
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    Originally Posted by Good**** View Post
    So you believe building your own portfolio had more of impact on getting a job than the degree? That worries me if I'm going to spend money for a degree.

    Do you think going the programming route is the best direction to take as opposed to things like cyber security, malware, information systems?
    Building your portfolio is the single best thing you can do period. I work with guys who have degrees in philosophy, english, language arts, peace studies and all of them got good jobs because they built good impressive applications that prove that they can code.

    At the end of the day most CS degree students dont know a line of code to save their life. Remember school pushes Degrees not Careers.

    College in the US is seriously ****ed up and expensive its simply not worth it anymore, if all you want is a stable career and financial stability.
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    calling me delusional when you're trying to tell someone to drop out of college and become a programmer because the starting pay is 95k?

    are you too much of a ***got to realize that you need that piece of paper (degree), to even qualify for that job?

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    i think hes giving his own opinion on the general job outlook for each major.
    obviously, there's going to be individuals who are exceptions to that general consensus because they have internships at fortune 20 companies, so they feel that the OP is wrong about their major's job outlook.
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    Cant talk about Europe, you guys get funded and subsidised for going to school. Its a whole different ball game out here in the US. Where kids are struggling to even find food to eat let alone budget money for books and tuition.
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    I tell it how it is, you dont like it then GTFO of this thread *******.

    You want to be fed that cock bull**** your college career advisory department wants to feed you go for it.

    Almost 60% of new grads cant find jobs today. We are in a recession. People are firing not hiring.

    Stop being a delusional ******* and wake the **** up idiot.
    The fact that you think the US is in a recession just sums up how clueless you are lol.

    The recession ended in 2009. A recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. As you can see in the link's graph, the last time that happened was in 2009. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit...tes/gdp-growth

    Given your evident ignorance, it is likely that the 60% grad unemployment you've just thrown out is also bullsh!t. Show me some credentials for that.
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    Originally Posted by LetMeBang View Post
    i think hes giving his own opinion on the general job outlook for each major.
    obviously, there's going to be individuals who are exceptions to that general consensus because they have internships at fortune 20 companies, so they feel that the OP is wrong about their major's job outlook.
    Thanks LetMeBang,

    I was there at age 23 like a lot of you guys (im 29 years old now), fresh out of school with my CE degree and couldnt find a job anywhere. Call me jaded but I am HIGHLY skeptical of the US college system particularly in California. Call me jaded, but I did not learn a single thing that was useful at my time at CAL. I wish I used that money elsewhere to pursue what I was doing now. Literally no one asked my about my degree when I was being interviewed. Only the potential $$$ I brought them as a programmer who can build their new hot app.
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    Originally Posted by WileyKat View Post
    Building your portfolio is the single best thing you can do period. I work with guys who have degrees in philosophy, english, language arts, peace studies and all of them got good jobs because they built good impressive applications that prove that they can code.

    At the end of the day most CS degree students dont know a line of code to save their life. Remember school pushes Degrees not Careers.

    College in the US is seriously ****ed up and expensive its simply not worth it anymore, if all you want is a stable career and financial stability.
    Those are the minority...

    What kind of bull**** is in the 2nd sentence? A good CS school will produce students who unlike those majors I bolded, not only know how to program, but the background and outline of their code aka they know why certain things work and why some certain things don't work.

    anyone can be a code monkey OP. Also, computer science isn't just about programming, there's a lot of theory involved
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    The fact that you think the US is in a recession just sums up how clueless you are lol.

    The recession ended in 2009. A recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth. As you can see in the link's graph, the last time that happened was in 2009. http://www.tradingeconomics.com/unit...tes/gdp-growth

    Given your evident ignorance, it is likely that the 60% grad unemployment you've just thrown out is also bullsh!t. Show me some credentials for that.
    A lot of people will agree with me, that 60% of new grads, cant find jobs or are well under paid. But its *******s like you who try to be cool and act like their balling when really their living in tiny dorms paying out of their mind for a piece of paper that means nothing in the real world.

    If you want to think otherwise thats your perogative and right. I am just telling you the life I experienced as an early adult.
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