Impressive pics of Kiev protests (apocalypse)(crazy)(lots of pics)

[jodalife]

What do they hope to accomplish by destroying their own buildings and burning their own streets? Do these guys not realise when this is all well and truly done that they will have to fork out a lot of money to rebuild said buildings/streets?

Do they think if they kill enough cops and destroy enough buildings then something will change?

Nothing to lose.

Many countries east of EU (and some of us in EU as well) either have nothing to lose or are starting to realize that there isn't much else to lose, when your government is corrupt and you start thinking about your life 20-30 years from now on and see no hope for improvement - what exactly do you do? Suck it up? These people have no hope anymore, they don't give a fuk.

Easy to talk when you're on the outside, but do you have any idea what it feels like to have no future? To work for nothing? To have your salary cut back year after year? To lose your pension? This is the situation right now.

Europe is falling apart in many cases, but to say Ukraine is in a better place with keeping up ties with Russia? How delusional are people in this topic? Must you really comment on everything?

[3flips6]

and then theres this *******

[7rmr]

why is this barely on the news?

Why do people keep saying this? It has been on CNN's main page pretty often, and if you go on the CNN page and then world there are multiple stories on it.

Go to MSNBC click world and there are stories on it. Same with Fox News. The Economist writes on it weekly. New York Times has stories on it under the World section.

What else are you expecting? Stories posted on ********?

[Koval661]

and then theres this *******

? peaceful protester.

[Koval661]

Why do people keep saying this. It has been on CNN's main page pretty often, and if you go on the CNN page and then world there are multiple stories on it.

Go to MSNBC click world and there are stories on it. Same with Fox News.

Same with NY times and The Telegraph, almost every major outlet is covering this, although it has been going on for a while, that's why it's not that often anymore.

[mrsnruB1111]

Lol wat??? Ukranians don't want the US to interfere, if the US does it will only be solely for the benefit of the US and not for the benefit of Ukraine, don't post in this thread anymore, you obviously have no clue how politics work or what is going on in Ukraine besides what you heard on the news. Good job on being able to read though.

all of the great things done throughout history have been due to the dovetailing of two forces a) good will, and b) self interest

the marshall plan? good will and aelf interest. allowing skilled jews to immigrate from nazi germany? good will an self interest. etc etc etc

good will provides the idea. self interest provides the motivation


And you're saying that ukraines dont want US assistance? say that again when the opposition topples the govenment but nobody will recognize them as a sovereign government if the US doesn't

[Koval661]

all of the great things done throughout history have been due to the dovetailing of two forces a) good will, and b) self interest

the marshall plan? good will and aelf interest. allowing skilled jews to immigrate from nazi germany? good will an self interest. etc etc etc

good will provides the idea. self interest provides the motivation

Sickening optimistic delusions.


Edit: erred.

[jodalife]

all of the great things done throughout history have been due to the dovetailing of two forces a) good will, and b) self interest

the marshall plan? good will and aelf interest. allowing skilled jews to immigrate from nazi germany? good will an self interest. etc etc etc

good will provides the idea. self interest provides the motivation

You must be out of your mind if you think the US is going anywhere near Ukraine.

[str3zz]

and then theres this *******

Negged.

[BrahScientist]

Looks like some cover-art for a game. Amazing.

[mrsnruB1111]

You must be out of your mind if you think the US is going anywhere near Ukraine.

they could easily support the opposition while keeping their hands clean

[halfchad]

I was bored so had a play with the gas mask guys in the smoke

[IcemanIsDead]

why haven't any US citizens done something about their govt?

Because the US government throughout time has successfully led the people of USA to believe that a two party system is democratic, so nobody questions the fact that you can only choose between two parties that hates each other with a force that could cause a civil war.

The US isn't a democracy, a two party system is not a balanced political system and USA is dragging itself down with it's 200 year plus constitution, which is a constitution that should have been renewed over ten times since it was first written, according to Thomas Jefferson himself.

I think that many citizens of the US just don't see anything wrong with having to choose between radical guntoters and radical reformists. And people cling to their constitution and their bill of rights as it was their dying mother, not realising that the founding fathers would have shaken their head in disbelief as to how it was used today.

I could go on, but that would not be staying on the subject of revolutions. The US just managed to make people believe that choosing between two sides is democracy, and people just take too much pride in a piece of paper that isn't even valid in it's writer's eyes.

No hate on ameribrahs out there, just pointing out some flaws imo.

[thehypocrit]

Nothing to lose.

Many countries east of EU (and some of us in EU as well) either have nothing to lose or are starting to realize that there isn't much else to lose, when your government is corrupt and you start thinking about your life 20-30 years from now on and see no hope for improvement - what exactly do you do? Suck it up? These people have no hope anymore, they don't give a fuk.

Easy to talk when you're on the outside, but do you have any idea what it feels like to have no future? To work for nothing? To have your salary cut back year after year? To lose your pension? This is the situation right now.

Europe is falling apart in many cases, but to say Ukraine is in a better place with keeping up ties with Russia? How delusional are people in this topic? Must you really comment on everything?

I'm not questioning their incentives or the reasons they are protesting. However destroying buildings does not seem to be the right course of action...

[Sanostol]

Because the US government throughout time has successfully led the people of USA to believe that a two party system is democratic, so nobody questions the fact that you can only choose between two parties that hates each other with a force that could cause a civil war.

The US isn't a democracy, a two party system is not a balanced political system and USA is dragging itself down with it's 200 year plus constitution, which is a constitution that should have been renewed over ten times since it was first written, according to Thomas Jefferson himself.

I think that many citizens of the US just don't see anything wrong with having to choose between radical guntoters and radical reformists. And people cling to their constitution and their bill of rights as it was their dying mother, not realising that the founding fathers would have shaken their head in disbelief as to how it was used today.

I could go on, but that would not be staying on the subject of revolutions. The US just managed to make people believe that choosing between two sides is democracy, and people just take too much pride in a piece of paper that isn't even valid in it's writer's eyes.

No hate on ameribrahs out there, just pointing out some flaws imo.

most accurate description of US voting ive read on the misc

[FLFjack]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuu. letuce take this time to remember that freedom isn't free. fuark. stong doomsday vibes.

Brah that part of the world hasn't been free ever.

[jodalife]

I'm not questioning their incentives or the reasons they are protesting. However destroying buildings does not seem to be the right course of action...

Ukraine, like many countries, has already tried the peaceful protest route. It doesn't work. Ukraine as a country is standing up and saying enough, no more protesting for one day and go back home for a wank, this is the real deal now, it is of extreme importance for the modern world that Ukraine keeps this up and doesn't back down until the people get what they want, it is unfortunate that so much damage is being done in Kiev, but it is a necessary evil, keeping things the way they are is simply guaranteeing that the next generation essentially has no future.

[ho_124]

You see, this is what the government in America should be afraid of happening when the people realize how ****ty of a job they are doing and are fed up with it. The US government has done way worse, allowing private corporations to jail people for profit, letting a handful of institutions ruin the worlds economy, and letting it go without punishment. Jesus, Americans should have put on a way better protest than Occupy Wall street, maybe then would the government be forced to change if people actually did something.

Also


And not a single fuk was given

[7rmr]

Because the US government throughout time has successfully led the people of USA to believe that a two party system is democratic, so nobody questions the fact that you can only choose between two parties that hates each other with a force that could cause a civil war.

The US isn't a democracy, a two party system is not a balanced political system and USA is dragging itself down with it's 200 year plus constitution, which is a constitution that should have been renewed over ten times since it was first written, according to Thomas Jefferson himself.

I think that many citizens of the US just don't see anything wrong with having to choose between radical guntoters and radical reformists. And people cling to their constitution and their bill of rights as it was their dying mother, not realising that the founding fathers would have shaken their head in disbelief as to how it was used today.

I could go on, but that would not be staying on the subject of revolutions. The US just managed to make people believe that choosing between two sides is democracy, and people just take too much pride in a piece of paper that isn't even valid in it's writer's eyes.

No hate on ameribrahs out there, just pointing out some flaws imo.

What?

The US system was never intended to give complete control to the people. That is the whole point of the electoral college. People seem to think this is some new period of us history dominated by the elites, but this is how the US has functioned since its inception. Arguably this is better than it has been. During the robber baron era even more wealth was concentrated in the elite.

[theroachman]

why is this barely on the news?

Because CNN, FOX, ABC, NBC, etc are all run by propaganda printing crack pots. If it doesn't fit the agenda it doesn't show.. Let the negs begin -_-

[theroachman]

What?

The US system was never intended to give complete control to the people. That is the whole point of the electoral college. People seem to think this is some new period of us history dominated by the elites, but this is how the US has functioned since its inception. Arguably this is better than it has been. During the robber baron era even more wealth was concentrated in the elite.

The electoral college is a joke.

[3flips6]

Negged.

im on my worst behaviour

[IcemanIsDead]

What?

The US system was never intended to give complete control to the people. That is the whole point of the electoral college. People seem to think this is some new period of us history dominated by the elites, but this is how the US has functioned since its inception. Arguably this is better than it has been. During the robber baron era even more wealth was concentrated in the elite.

I'm not saying that it's worse than ever now, I'm saying that democracy in the US has been standing still for decades, as bolded in your own post. And pointing out that the electionsystem and electorial college isn't built to support the people's wish is just what I mean with lack of democracy, it's a faulty system that doesn't represent the people's political opinions.(also bolded)

The US parliament system and political system is flawed, as well as the election system, picking a few states have more influence, not by overall votes, but by the majority then getting the most electoral votes and thereby disregarding for example that the majority was a mere .5% higher than the opposition. The electorial college disregards the nationwide popular vote and that is not a democracy, as the land of opportunities USA claims.

It seems as if you are agreeing with me, but your words seems dismissive. Again, no hate on ameribrahs, just voicing my opinions.

[murinon]

Fuark, is this the clankening or whatever?

[CumGuzzler]

can sumone epalin eut is going on in mafialand?

why they fightin?

[str3zz]

I'm not saying that it's worse than ever now, I'm saying that democracy in the US has been standing still for decades, as bolded in your own post. And pointing out that the electionsystem and electorial college isn't built to support the people's wish is just what I mean with lack of democracy, it's a faulty system that doesn't represent the people's political opinions.(also bolded)

The US parliament system and political system is flawed, as well as the election system, picking a few states have more influence, not by overall votes, but by the majority then getting the most electoral votes and thereby disregarding for example that the majority was a mere .5% higher than the opposition. The electorial college disregards the nationwide popular vote and that is not a democracy, as the land of opportunities USA claims.

It seems as if you are agreeing with me, but your words seems dismissive. Again, no hate on ameribrahs, just voicing my opinions.

For someone who does not live here you are fairly well versed.

[kusok]

lol. you spend all your time arguing on the internet about how awful government is. Now that people actually go and do something, instead of posting on the internet, they are just pawns and stupid.

Makes total sense. Please let me know when you actually stand up about the government you complain so much about.

Ukrainians are doing nothing about government. They want to replace one ruling scum with another.

why haven't any US citizens done something about their govt?

Americans have been bought off with gizmos, fast food, sports on TV, and Justin Beebler and other morons.

[Agent Lazy 78]

surprised nobody's chopped the Armani suit guy choking out a fem bish into one of the scenes

[SuperToast]

Nice. Always wanted to play real life Metro 2033

[AbusiveParents]

surprised nobody's chopped the Armani suit guy choking out a fem bish into one of the scenes

lmao in for this