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    Best pre-workout without creatine?

    I bought two jugs of Muscletech Vapor and didn't realize it was loaded with creatine. I'm currently cutting and me holding water weight isnt helping me mentally when I jump on the scale. What's a good PWO that is creatine free?
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    White Flood or volt are awesome imo!
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    I hear the new White flood is decent haven't tried it. Also look at Hemavol
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    Pump Igniter and White Flood reborn are two great options, a lot of good feedback and profiles.
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    Nano Vapor only has roughly 1.6 grams of creatine mono per scoop? That amount of creatine will not cause you to hold a significant amount of water op. But if you want a creatine free I would recommend Neon Sport Volt, it gives good energy and decent pumps.
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    White Flood Reborn! awesome pumps, extreme focus

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    Originally Posted by powercage View Post
    White Flood
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    Neurosurge 2.0 is creatine free and has 150mg caffeine per serving along with nootropics for that focus.
    White flood reborn is also a great option for creatine free.
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    You're overreacting I doubt you're retaining that much water. Plus you already purchased 2 jugs might as well use them before you buy another supplement. If you diet right + cardio you will see yourself getting cut
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    Originally Posted by joem1cha3l View Post
    I bought two jugs of Muscletech Vapor and didn't realize it was loaded with creatine. I'm currently cutting and me holding water weight isnt helping me mentally when I jump on the scale. What's a good PWO that is creatine free?
    There's no reason to skip creatine while cutting. The water weight it makes you hold (if it does at all) is intramuscular.
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    Originally Posted by stan47islav View Post
    Neurosurge 2.0 is creatine and has 150mg caffeine per serving along with nootropics for that focus.
    White flood reborn is also a great option for creatine free.
    This and add in Uncut to the list as well. BTW creatine is the one supplement I'd continue to take on a cut personally.
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    Originally Posted by qstick99 View Post
    Pump Igniter and White Flood reborn are two great options, a lot of good feedback and profiles.
    In to cast my vote for both of these options ^^^

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    White Flood for a higher stim 225mg
    Volt for around 100mg per scoop (lower stim)
    Hemavol for a non stim

    100% Agree
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