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    If you truly want VS Angel 'abs' or a thigh gap

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    It's sad to see these girls at such a young age do this to themselves...
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    The thing that kills me is that the two doing the picking... they dont look professional or healthy at all. They look crazy, and I am happy that at least the one mom was like "thats ok, NO" and walked off.

    I figured out a long time ago with my height I would never be a "model". But OMG if those 2 came up to me, i would think they were crazy nuts!
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    24.5" waist on a 5'10" girl. And she's crushed because that's too thick.

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    Originally Posted by rockangel View Post
    The thing that kills me is that the two doing the picking... they dont look professional or healthy at all. They look crazy, and I am happy that at least the one mom was like "thats ok, NO" and walked off.

    I figured out a long time ago with my height I would never be a "model". But OMG if those 2 came up to me, i would think they were crazy nuts!

    Originally Posted by AnnieRhi View Post
    24.5" waist on a 5'10" girl. And she's crushed because that's too thick.
    Seriously, THEY are telling girls they are "too fat" right now? That's ridiculous.. I'd like to see the red head get a 24 inch waist. These poor girls are hardly eating!
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    wow, these chicks are going to get rejected and kill themselves. well done america
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    When I was very underweight as a young teenager, I got scouted 5 different times. I looked completely unhealthy and sick (didn't have an ED though) but apparently that was what the scouts were looking for. I ran one fashion show and after being treated like objects (or living dolls as they say in the video), I decided to never get involved in that business ever again. Freaking superficial and ridiculous lunatics.

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    Originally Posted by megdaig View Post
    One for all those girls wanting Candice Swanpoel abs or a thigh gap....


    It's sad to see these girls at such a young age do this to themselves...



    This sounds so much like me when I was a model in High School. It didn't matter how much I dieted or exercised, my hips were never small enough. Just bone structure really, but the constant needling from my agent sent me into a tailspin. Then suddenly, I was too sick looking to get jobs. So first I was too big, then I was to small. Eh. Obviously, I recovered.

    Between my boyfriend (now husband) and parents, I quit the whole thing, got healthy, got married, had 2 great kids. Now I'm a little fluffy, but definitely healthier than when I was 17-19.

    The standards for models are ridiculous. They seriously want waist measurements smaller than 24", hip measurements 34" or smaller, and for you to be 5'9" or taller. At one point I was 120 pounds (at 5'10"), waist at 22", but my hips were still 35", and I was told that I was too big by my agent. Eh. Dark times in our society.
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    I can't imagine what this does to those girls' self esteem. this is really sad, and I can't believe some parents would push their daughters towards modeling

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    Originally Posted by armywife85 View Post
    This sounds so much like me when I was a model in High School. It didn't matter how much I dieted or exercised, my hips were never small enough. Just bone structure really, but the constant needling from my agent sent me into a tailspin. Then suddenly, I was too sick looking to get jobs. So first I was too big, then I was to small. Eh. Obviously, I recovered.

    Between my boyfriend (now husband) and parents, I quit the whole thing, got healthy, got married, had 2 great kids. Now I'm a little fluffy, but definitely healthier than when I was 17-19.

    The standards for models are ridiculous. They seriously want waist measurements smaller than 24", hip measurements 34" or smaller, and for you to be 5'9" or taller. At one point I was 120 pounds (at 5'10"), waist at 22", but my hips were still 35", and I was told that I was too big by my agent. Eh. Dark times in our society.
    I find those measurements crazy. Before kids, I had a tiny hip structure, it was somewhere in the high 20's and my waist is small naturally but im a small person. I cant imagine having the same measurements and being stretched another foot taller!

    My childhood was the opposite, every one wanted me to get bigger.
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    Originally Posted by rockangel View Post
    I find those measurements crazy. Before kids, I had a tiny hip structure, it was somewhere in the high 20's and my waist is small naturally but im a small person. I cant imagine having the same measurements and being stretched another foot taller!

    My childhood was the opposite, every one wanted me to get bigger.
    They are crazy measurements, unless you are just part of that miniscule percentage that has that natural structure. I've just always had bigger hips, no matter what my body fat percentage or weight.
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    Some of these girls are barely 16 and they're doing 2 hours of cardio a day on empty.

    And true the first thing I thought about that couple was ..."you? A model scout?" And to trust them to live with them for a week or month or whatever!?
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    Originally Posted by megdaig View Post
    Some of these girls are barely 16 and they're doing 2 hours of cardio a day on empty.

    And true the first thing I thought about that couple was ..."you? A model scout?" And to trust them to live with them for a week or month or whatever!?
    But she discovered Ashton Kutcher so she's totally legit.
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    There's a documentary on Netflix about this that unfortunately I can't remember the name of. It was about this beautiful young girl who was an up and coming star and walked in NYC fashion week when she was 12 or 13 (and already almost 6 feet tall). Then she grew some more and her hips widened out to 35 inches (IIRC)--not fat, bone--and her career was over because her pelvis was too wide.
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    Originally Posted by dreahere View Post
    There's a documentary on Netflix about this that unfortunately I can't remember the name of. It was about this beautiful young girl who was an up and coming star and walked in NYC fashion week when she was 12 or 13 (and already almost 6 feet tall). Then she grew some more and her hips widened out to 35 inches (IIRC)--not fat, bone--and her career was over because her pelvis was too wide.
    Was the document America the Beautiful by any chance? I know that docu centered on a really young model named Garren Taylor.

    It's just all so sad. The fashion industry is in love with the coltish look - long skinny limbs, big wide eyes, no hips (basically Vlada Roslyakova) - and snaps up these models before they even hit puberty and expects them to maintain that look for the rest of their career. And for every model that may have a genetic disposition for that shape, there's dozens of others who have a lifelong battle fighting their own genetics.

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    Was the document America the Beautiful by any chance? I know that docu centered on a really young model named Garren Taylor.
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    Originally Posted by megdaig View Post
    Some of these girls are barely 16 and they're doing 2 hours of cardio a day on empty.

    And true the first thing I thought about that couple was ..."you? A model scout?" And to trust them to live with them for a week or month or whatever!?
    Can you imagine how much those two must be eating in front of these children that they are basically starving? That's just cruel.

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    Stick things. I don't mean that to sound mean, it's just what I think of. I probably had wider hips than that in the sixth grade. My obgyn gleefully told me my pelvis was wide enough for me to birth a calf. My hip bones see more action than I do. Sometimes we aren't even in the same room. So yeah, it's not just starvation, it's genetics and maturity. The good news is, it's nothing I ever had to worry about. I will never be tiny. Ever.

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    I find most high fashion models unattractive, too skinny, unhealthy, really tall and scary looking. I don't know why girls would want to look like a model.

    I managed to scarf down some cottage cheese, almonds and a string cheese all while watching that

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    this makes me want to eat 12 cheeseburgers. Great bulking motivation. lol poor girls living off egg whites and broccoli...

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    if i just listened to this with no video i would think we were talking about child molesters with all the "grooming them to be this and that" and "have to lose weight" "not toned enough" "hips are to wide". This is so sad, especially when they told the cameras what they were eating everyday. A teenager that looks already to thin should not be further starving themselves. A mom of the year award to that mom who dropped her kid off there and then added that she was glad she didn't buy her cupcakes.

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    I usually dislike the idea that cultural pressure 'creates' eating disorders, but it certainly can contribute to their development in susceptible people.

    I see the whole ridiculous pressure on models to be super-thin as a sort of cultural binge-purge mindset. You have the "normal people" who are overweight and eat with abandon, and you sort of counterbalance it with the malnourished waifs.

    Now, I will grant you--there are some young girls who are just very skinny at that point in their lives. Some people have smaller bone structure and are leaner than others. My cousin is quite thin in part because of a medical condition. And she shouldn't receive any censure for her body.

    But idolizing skinny bodies... that's the same way that the average overweight American might talk rapturously about the juice cleanse they're about to undertake... the day after a giant food binge. The extreme thinness 'looks good' because it balances out the excess in the other direction.

    All very Hunger Games. BRB elevating discussion by reference to children's book, BRB too many young students warping my brain.
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    I remember when I wanted to look like the VS models and looked up one of their model's BMI. It was something like 17.4 or whatever. I calculated that to my body and set my goal to be a stupidly low 98 lbs. I thought I would look nice. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Some of them look good but a lot look like sketelors.

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    When I watched that, it made me terribly sad and angry. I ideally wish our society would alter their idealization of beauty from "thinness" to "health" but I recognize it's far more likely for individuals to take the initiative, and teach their children to value strength over size, and health over a media-celebrated "look."
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    What use it is being skinny like that if you're just going to have to pay someone else to carry in your groceries? I just don't get it.... independent women are STRONG not skinny!! the "main stream media" should be empowering the younger ones, not making them feel inadequate because of their hip measurements.. poppycock.

    But I guess at that weight groceries are not such a concern :0 !

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    Originally Posted by megdaig View Post
    One for all those girls wanting Candice Swanpoel abs or a thigh gap....

    http://www.upworthy.com/a-news-team-...disgust-mode-3


    It's sad to see these girls at such a young age do this to themselves...
    Absolutely biased, plus these models only look like that one week of the year. I`ve partied with a few and my friend interviewed them. Theyre just like body builders but have different goals.






    ...........nothing like a judgmental miscer who is overwhelmed with ignorance

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    Originally Posted by bh4tmann View Post
    Absolutely biased, plus these models only look like that one week of the year. I`ve partied with a few and my friend interviewed them. Theyre just like body builders but have different goals.

    ...........nothing like a judgmental miscer who is overwhelmed with ignorance
    Since when does a model only work one week out of the year? Sorry, but they're nothing like bb's...not even close.
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    Originally Posted by Digichocolate View Post
    What use it is being skinny like that if you're just going to have to pay someone else to carry in your groceries? I just don't get it.... independent women are STRONG not skinny!! the "main stream media" should be empowering the younger ones, not making them feel inadequate because of their hip measurements.. poppycock.

    But I guess at that weight groceries are not such a concern :0 !


    Actually independent women are independent. Being independent isn't based on anything physical. I know plenty of skinny people that are completely independent. And I know plenty of people that are strong that are completely reliant on others.

    The main stream media shouldn't be doing anything. If I had a child, I certainly wouldn't want anyone else empowering my child in any way whatsoever. The problem is parents. They are the ones that need to be in the forefront and actually start raising their children, leading by example and not letting "media" or anyone else raise their children. They need to be their children's role models, not some model or celebrity. And parents really need to be focusing on their children's emotional and mental health as well.
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    Originally Posted by kimm4 View Post
    Since when does a model only work one week out of the year? Sorry, but they're nothing like bb's...not even close.
    I was talking about the show. These ladies do a few shoots along with editing on the pics. They only go on tour when they want to promote their name.


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    Originally Posted by Artemis00 View Post
    Actually independent women are independent. Being independent isn't based on anything physical. I know plenty of skinny people that are completely independent. And I know plenty of people that are strong that are completely reliant on others.

    The main stream media shouldn't be doing anything. If I had a child, I certainly wouldn't want anyone else empowering my child in any way whatsoever. The problem is parents. They are the ones that need to be in the forefront and actually start raising their children, leading by example and not letting "media" or anyone else raise their children. They need to be their children's role models, not some model or celebrity. And parents really need to be focusing on their children's emotional and mental health as well.
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