BREAKING: Shooting reported on University of Oklahoma's campus!!

[DennisR1977]

i respect ur rights. i did not wish death on anyone. in order for this to ever happen legally it would have to go through the legislative process, which would mean american support for it.

You're a flat out liar and a piece of ****.

[Bongos]

You're a flat out liar and a piece of ****.

how so? if the government banned guns, you and millions of like minded individuals would fight back. you have a right to. would you win? i don't know. it would be messy though and ultimately lead to the destruction of the american empire.

[Farley1324]

I was referring to the Indian Removal Act and the myriad of hate speech and violence directed towards Native Americans over the course of american history, and the ultimatum given to them if they refused to leave their lands. you do know what happened to them right?

They were disarmed. And it didn't end well for them.

[DennisR1977]

how so? if the government banned guns, you and millions of like minded individuals would fight back. you have a right to. would you win? i don't know. it would be messy though and ultimately lead to the destruction of the american empire.

Because you did call for the eradication of millions of people, simply based on a difference of opinion.

[YIAMSOMEBODY]

And Yiamsomebody!

Guns don't kill right?

Well that's just not nice.....

[Bongos]

What, their bullets were replaced with rubber bullets???? You say a lot without actually ever getting to a valid point.

they were voluntarily moved, were violently cattled up, or killed. it's pretty well documented and had presidential support.

[Internexus]

i respect ur rights. i did not wish death on anyone. in order for this to ever happen legally it would have to go through the legislative process, which would mean american support for it.

Which won't happen, have you ever realized that if you don't agree with what this country was founded upon that you have the freedom to go elsewhere where that may cater to your tastes better? I won't even recommend places for you to go take part in your desire of genocide of millions of human beings.

[CdtCox]

how so? if the government banned guns, you and millions of like minded individuals would fight back. you have a right to. would you win? i don't know. it would be messy though and ultimately lead to the destruction of the american empire.

I could power a small fan for a week with the amount of back pedaling you're doing.

[DennisR1977]

I could power the biggest wind turbine in the world for a week with the amount of back pedaling you're doing.

Ftfy

[Bongos]

I could power a small fan for a week with the amount of back pedaling you're doing.

but why should guns be legal? because the constitution says so? (you are starting to sway my opinion by the way)

[Farley1324]

but why should guns be legal? because the constitution says so? (you are starting to sway my opinion by the way)

Because nobody, including the government, has the authority nor the right to disarm you.

You are going completely ****ing backwards if you are asking why something should be legal.

The natural state of being is not to forcibly control people. If you want to forcibly control people you need to have a damn good justification for it.

No such justification exists for disarmament.

[Farley1324]

what about ways to keep the public safer from those who abuse these rights? is there anything that can be done to help that wouldn't infringe on that right?

Disarming people does not make them safer.

Yes, the first thing that needs to be done is to get rid of these "gun free" criminal empowerment zones. And get rid of the prohibitive infringements that make arming ones self more difficult, time consuming, and expensive, due to having to jump through the hoops to be legal.

The second thing that needs to be done is for convicted violent criminals not to be free in society.

[Bigdumogre]

and what's wrong with that?

Ashamed to see NYC crew in your sig

But not surprised

[Farley1324]

so ideally, in your opinion, everyone who wanted to be would be able to open carry whoever they wanted? and there should be no restrictions on firearm purchase for anyone who has been granted citizenship, insofar as they've never committed an act of violence before?

Who said anything about having to be a citizen? Legal resident aliens have no reason to be disarmed.

Every person, of the age of majority, who is free in society, ought to have their Right to keep and bear arms free from infringement.

Now, there are still private property rights. If a person doesn't want you to be armed on their private property, so be it.

PS: There are like a dozen states where open carry of a handgun without a license is legal, so this thing you are asking about is already in effect all over the country.

There are also states where open carry of a rifle or shotgun is legal without a license.

Don't act like this is some kind of far fetched idea.

[Farley1324]

im not acting like it's far fetched. i'm asking if that's what you want. different environment call for different ways of life.

you mentioned private property, which is interesting. what does one do when they enter these areas? for instance in many cities, people don't own cars. they work, eat, do laundry, study, spectate entertainment, etc. in places that don't allow them. how would that be effective in the sense of carrying around your firearm? isn't that, unfortunately, from your viewpoint, a very large hinderance?

It is their private property. If they don't want you to bring a gun, or bring a knife, or bring a backpack, or bring an umbrella, or enter without shoes, or enter without a shirt, or bring your dog that you are out for a walk with, or whatever, they have that right. Plain and simple. You, as a person who has chosen to have something that the private property owner does not want on their property, have the right to not go there, to leave that item at home, or to arrange for safe/secure storage of that item while you are there.

[Farley1324]

interesting. is this common where you are from? or do most places not care?

What?

I'm just telling you the way it is, legally, which is the way it should be. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service. Now, there are a few protected classes (which is a different sub topic), but other than that, yeah. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service or ask you to leave for almost any reason. It's their ****ing property. They get to do that.

[khanvictt]

time to BAN OKLAHOMA

[Bongos]

What?

for you to carry your weapon into their establishments.

[SirWoodbury]

This is why you should take a leaf out of our book and bash each other with kettles instead

[Farley1324]

for you to carry your weapon into their establishments.

Where I am from and where I live now there are very few places I have gone that say you may not.

But they can if they want to.

I'm just telling you the way it is, legally, which is the way it should be. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service. Now, there are a few protected classes (which is a different sub topic), but other than that, yeah. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service or ask you to leave for almost any reason. It's their ****ing property. They get to do that.

[djfuzzy]

There was no shooting.

inb4 a far left delusional anti-gunner goes to OU tomorrow on a shooting rampage to prove that guns are bad just to satisfy the anti-gunner media attention whoring needs for the week

[SigmundFreud]

Hopefully false reporting school shootings isn't the new liberal thing to do. There was today, yesterday couldn't even be called a shooting, and then on Halloween some guy was reported, and not long ago Yale(?) was shut down all day. The media has everybody acting potato.

Even if they are all fake, if everyone hears about a school shooting every week they will begin to think there are real even though they aren't.

"If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth." -Joseph Goebbels

[PapaBurgandy]

inb4 a far left delusional anti-gunner goes to OU tomorrow on a shooting rampage to prove that guns are bad just to satisfy the anti-gunner media attention whoring needs for the week

http://www.normantranscript.com/brea...ng-false-alarm

More on the "shooting"

[Farley1324]

I guess you missed this paragraph. I have posted it twice now. Here is a third time.

"I'm just telling you the way it is, legally, which is the way it should be. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service. Now, there are a few protected classes (which is a different sub topic), but other than that, yeah. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service or ask you to leave for almost any reason. It's their ****ing property. They get to do that."

[Bongos]

I guess you missed this paragraph. I have posted it twice now. Here is a third time.

"I'm just telling you the way it is, legally, which is the way it should be. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service. Now, there are a few protected classes (which is a different sub topic), but other than that, yeah. Private property owners reserve the right to refuse service or ask you to leave for almost any reason. It's their ****ing property. They get to do that."

clearly i didn't miss it because my question evolved, and clearly you added it to the one post after i responded to your post considering it isn't quoted in my reply. but never mind, have fun pushing away the people who are trying to learn.

[Farley1324]

clearly i didn't miss it because my question evolved

That paragraph renders your question irrelevant, as it effectively answers it.

Keep back pedaling and making excuses.

[Farley1324]

how is that back pedaling and making excuses? making excuses for what?

Alright then. Let's just move forward.

Do you have any more questions I can answer in your question for knowledge?

[Hola Bola]

i respect ur rights. i did not wish death on anyone. in order for this to ever happen legally it would have to go through the legislative process, which would mean american support for it.

anyone else think the government should go door to door and confiscate and then execute everyone in the US that owns a gun?