Strength standards in first world society.. what percentages would you guess?

[Womble619]

Was looking at strength standards out of interest on this site:

http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLi...Standards.html

I can see that there are some clear parameters of untrained, novice, intermidate, advanced and elite lifters.

I am curious as to what you guys think what percent of males in first world societys fall into each bracket?

For example do you think:

80% of men are untrained
12% of men are novices
6% of men are intermediate
1.5% of men are advanced
0.5%% of men are Elite

Pure speculation, post what numbers you would guess at

[Divall213]

Why u such a bully op

[BigStewTheJew]

Was looking at strength standards out of interest on this site:

http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLi...Standards.html

I can see that there are some clear parameters of untrained, novice, intermidate, advanced and elite lifters.

I am curious as to what you guys think what percent of males in first world societys fall into each bracket?

For example do you think:

80% of men are untrained
12% of men are novices
6% of men are intermediate
1.5% of men are advanced
0.5%% of men are Elite

Pure speculation, post what numbers you would guess at

Think it's in accurate there was a much better one posted a while back

I'd say more like .01% elite srs

[HamburgerTrain]

According to that, I am elite in everything except power snatch just because I have never done it before. That chart is wildly inaccurate.

[TrettinR]

Hooray! I'm elite in the Squat/Bench/Deadlift for the 320+ weight category!

[HamburgerTrain]

Hooray! I'm elite in the Squat/Bench/Deadlift for the 320+ weight category!

I am going to start an internet smear campaign against you.

[Nosje]

over 92% is untrained

[Womble619]

over 92% is untrained

your credentials Jeremy?

[Nosje]

your credentials Jeremy?

credential.com

[hammerfelt]

Use these charts then -

http://www.lift.net/2013/05/09/class...aw-elite-uspa/

[TrettinR]

I am going to start an internet smear campaign against you.

Good luck. I've already started one years ago, I call it "being myself".

Use these charts then -

http://www.lift.net/2013/05/09/class...aw-elite-uspa/

Umm... why is the squat standard higher than the deadlift standards in the 242+ classes for raw lifting?

[isaku900]

Umm... why is the squat standard higher than the deadlift standards in the 242+ classes for raw lifting?

because they were calculated by reducing the numbers from the single ply standards. I've mentioned it to Steve. I'll do so again when I see him in February.

I don't think anyone really paid attention to the single lift squat numbers because its not offered (generally) in the USPA.

[tinytim1]

because they were calculated by reducing the numbers from the single ply standards. I've mentioned it to Steve. I'll do so again when I see him in February.

I don't think anyone really paid attention to the single lift squat numbers because its not offered (generally) in the USPA.

They must have reduced it by quite a bit. No way would i call 1633 elite for a SHW

[isaku900]

They must have reduced it by quite a bit. No way would i call 1633 elite for a SHW

for the USPA charts-SHW 1885 is elite, 2055 is int'l elite.

not sure from where you got 1633 as elite

[Huskarl]

Good luck. I've already started one years ago, I call it "being myself".



Umm... why is the squat standard higher than the deadlift standards in the 242+ classes for raw lifting?

Knee wraps

[isaku900]

Knee wraps

thatd be for classic raw, but the raw squat is higher than the raw deadlift w/sleeves only.

[MichBigGrizzly]

Honestly, the average American male is becoming pathetic - weak

I see it every day.

[invain]

Good luck. I've already started one years ago, I call it "being myself".



Umm... why is the squat standard higher than the deadlift standards in the 242+ classes for raw lifting?

I feel like the deadlift numbers are a little low overall. No way would I consider myself an "international elite" puller which the chart says I am, I've always considered my deadlift fairly ****ty.

[CROMAGS1985]

I feel like the deadlift numbers are a little low overall. No way would I consider myself an "international elite" puller which the chart says I am, I've always considered my deadlift fairly ****ty.

I thought your 600 X 5 @ 215 was pretty impressive and far from ****ty

[NorthStrong]

If you read the definiton of elite on the erxr thing it says : "An athlete competing in strength sports. Keep in mind, the standards shown in the tables do not represent the highest level of strength performance possible."

He's just using elite in a way in relation to the whole population, not the strength training world.

[raytayse]

Was looking at strength standards out of interest on this site:


I can see that there are some clear parameters of untrained, novice, intermidate, advanced and elite lifters.

I am curious as to what you guys think what percent of males in first world societys fall into each bracket?

For example do you think:

80% of men are untrained
12% of men are novices
6% of men are intermediate
1.5% of men are advanced
0.5%% of men are Elite

Pure speculation, post what numbers you would guess at

I think you are pretty accurate, I may push the curve down a little further though. Think of all the people you know or have met. How many are overweight (meaning the numbers they must lift are higher than they are capable of). Then look at all the skinny nerds you know or have met. Let me put it this way; only 1% of us sign up for military service and of those I would have to say only 50% could do the novice or above. Now compare your average soldier against your average American Male. Thus I say.

82% Untrained
13% Novices
4% Intermediate
0.95% Advanced
0.05% Elite

I think my elite may be a bit high to be honest.

[bigman78]

That first list is way to low. The one from elite is what i am working towards.

[tinytim1]

for the USPA charts-SHW 1885 is elite, 2055 is int'l elite.

not sure from where you got 1633 as elite

Was going off the numbers from the link in the op

[isaku900]

Was going off the numbers from the link in the op

ah, yeah exrx is bullcrap for anyone actually competing in any iron related sport.

[Link815]

Advanced deadlift checking in.

[IronOynx]

Almost everyone is untrained lol.

[paradux]

According to that, I am elite in everything except power snatch just because I have never done it before. That chart is wildly inaccurate.

How much do you power clean?