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    Protein Supplement that sits light on stomach for morning shake pre running

    I'm curious if anyone has found any protein or methods for making their shake to keep it a little lighter on their stomach. I tend to have 16 oz skim with 2 scoops gold standard every morning to get Anabolic again.

    I'm running 4 mornings a week for 6-10 miles no more than 60 mins after I wakeup. If I skip morning shake and go run I end up fasting like 12 hrs if I'm not careful.

    Previously I was able to run a little later after a shake and a solid breakfast. Seems like a big zero carb blueberry isopure sits entirely different than my standard milk and whey. Unfortunately I don't see a blueberry isopure mix.

    Do any other proteins mix up like fruit juice like the premade isopure? My usual protein shakes turn into a milk shake and bloat you up.

    Please try and stick to the question about protein and leave flaming my status as a runner out. I'm regularly setting lifetime PR's on both my runs and lifts at the same time and don't really buy into the whole one or the other thing. I prefer being great at both though it limits me from being elite at either sport.

    Thanks in advance
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    Originally Posted by Spartan1414 View Post
    I'm curious if anyone has found any protein or methods for making their shake to keep it a little lighter on their stomach. I tend to have 16 oz skim with 2 scoops gold standard every morning to get Catabolic again.

    I'm running 4 mornings a week for 6-10 miles no more than 60 mins after I wakeup so I'm trying new options. I skip the shake often times but between sleeping and not eating any serious protein til my post run shake I end up fasting like 12 hrs if I'm not careful. Previously I was able to run a little later after a shake and a solid breakfast. I've had good results with mixing it with OJ but I'm thinking water perhaps. Seems like a big zero carb blueberry isopure sits entirely different than my standard milk and whey. Except I don't see a blueberry isopure mix. Do any other proteins mix up like fruit juice like the premade isopure? Seems like most proteins shakes turn into a milk shake and bloat you up. And when I can keep myself fed and not bloated it helps my pace tremendously.

    Please try and stick to the question about protein and leave flaming my status as a runner out. I'm regularly setting lifetime PR's on both my runs and lifts at the same time and don't really buy into the whole one or the other thing. I prefer being great at both though it limits me from being elite at either sport.

    Thanks in advance
    Not sure if the brand or type matters, others can chime in but I did a scoop pf ON, scoop of SAN, and a banana blended with ice and water this morning. Ran 6 miles about 2 hours later...all good
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    You could skip the shake all together and get something like Purple Wraath/Amino Build or an Intra BCAA/EAA supplement.

    I would drop the milk and OJ and keep the protein with water. Some good isolates I have tried

    BioX Whey Isolate ( currently on sale for less than $56/5lb ) Great macros and light on the stomach, added digestive enzymes to the formula is definitely a plus in your situation
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    I think you're on the right track with the isolates mixed with water. Isoflex Chiller is probably the closest to juice-style that I've had, but the regular Isoflex is pretty light as well. Sounds like you're making a lot of progress so I wouldn't change too much.
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    Yeah I'm looking for 30-60 mins from run much more than that and the half qt of milk one protein shake doesn't phase me. And I'm hooked on the milk For my other routine shakes, I'm burning 1000 plus calories on my runs so I can't eat enough the rest of the day especially lifting 2 hrs at a time.

    Interesting thoughts on the BCAA's I normally sip a scoop of Purple Wrath with a qt of water while I lift and get a little more endurance out of it. I will have to study this idea some more.
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    Originally Posted by Swamp Dog View Post
    Lost it at catabolic.
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    Originally Posted by Spartan1414 View Post
    True, edited for some clarity. I ramble a bit and hit people with a firehose of information.
    You mean anabolic (muscle building), not catabolic (muscle losing)
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    Originally Posted by mentalist72 View Post
    You mean anabolic (muscle building), not catabolic (muscle losing)
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    Originally Posted by Spartan1414 View Post
    I'm curious if anyone has found any protein or methods for making their shake to keep it a little lighter on their stomach. I tend to have 16 oz skim with 2 scoops gold standard every morning to get Anabolic again.

    I'm running 4 mornings a week for 6-10 miles no more than 60 mins after I wakeup. If I skip morning shake and go run I end up fasting like 12 hrs if I'm not careful.

    Previously I was able to run a little later after a shake and a solid breakfast. Seems like a big zero carb blueberry isopure sits entirely different than my standard milk and whey. Unfortunately I don't see a blueberry isopure mix.

    Do any other proteins mix up like fruit juice like the premade isopure? My usual protein shakes turn into a milk shake and bloat you up.

    Please try and stick to the question about protein and leave flaming my status as a runner out. I'm regularly setting lifetime PR's on both my runs and lifts at the same time and don't really buy into the whole one or the other thing. I prefer being great at both though it limits me from being elite at either sport.

    Thanks in advance
    Throw all this out. Not because you run, running is fine, but because you think you need a shake before you run. You don't. I'll assume you're covering 6-10 in under two hours. That's only catabolic if you don't eat enough calories throughout your day; none of them have to be immediately pre run. Personally, I train fasted every time, and I take a scoop of bcaas before, but it's not essential. Just make sure you eat good calories after your run, and throughout the remainder of your day.

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    Throw all this out. Not because you run, running is fine, but because you think you need a shake before you run. You don't. I'll assume you're covering 6-10 in under two hours. That's only catabolic if you don't eat enough calories throughout your day; none of them have to be immediately pre run. Personally, I train fasted every time, and I take a scoop of bcaas before, but it's not essential. Just make sure you eat good calories after your run, and throughout the remainder of your day.

    Worrying about eating before a morning run is dumb, unless you have time to eat, wait for it to settle, etc.
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    Yeah needing shakes and running with my unique goals is probably bewildering to some. It's sort of the Army's fault they value me for my ability to run 2 & 5 miles as well as push-ups and sit-ups. I have just been really astonished to see strength gains continue as I've gotten faster. Keeping my body constantly fueled with enough nutrients feels key to recovering and having enough energy for the next weight session.

    This morning for example I'm about to knock out an easy run 6 miles at 8:00 pace. Then I'll pound a 2 scoop protein shake WITH MILK and an orange. Then I'll grab a shower and have a big double serving of Greek yogurt and granola. An hour or so after that I'll probably eat a granola bar with some C4 and head out for international chest day. For me chest day is about 30-35 sets and I'll probably set a PR in strength and volume in every exercise I do right up til the last exercise.

    If I skimp on the eating portion my endurance during my lifts drops off noticeably.

    This morning 45 minutes before the run I tried a single scoop of whey with 8 oz water and ate a banana. 15 minutes later a pack of sports beans for a few more carbs and the caffeine and 16 oz of sports drink. 30 minutes after that the run starts.
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    Avoiding all the broscience talk, I really like SAN Titanium Chocolate Graham Cracker. Mixes really light, very thin consistency with water. Not thick like other proteins.
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    Throw all this out. Not because you run, running is fine, but because you think you need a shake before you run. You don't. I'll assume you're covering 6-10 in under two hours. That's only catabolic if you don't eat enough calories throughout your day; none of them have to be immediately pre run. Personally, I train fasted every time, and I take a scoop of bcaas before, but it's not essential. Just make sure you eat good calories after your run, and throughout the remainder of your day.

    Worrying about eating before a morning run is dumb, unless you have time to eat, wait for it to settle, etc.
    Ok I think this sort of assumes I'm eating to fuel the run. If I were just eating for the run the banana , cliff shots etc. would be plenty. But I'm eating cause the rest of my body is usually feeling quite sore from some workout or another and dying to get some protein to repair my muscles. I don't do Cardio to look pretty and burn fat. I run cause I want to be fast.

    I had pretty good luck this morning with a single scoop whey and 8 oz water. I think I'm just feeling bloated because of the full 16 oz of milk combine that with another 16 of water and I've got a qt of fluid within an hr of running.
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    Originally Posted by Spartan1414 View Post
    Ok I think this sort of assumes I'm eating to fuel the run. If I were just eating for the run the banana , cliff shots etc. would be plenty. But I'm eating cause the rest of my body is usually feeling quite sore from some workout or another and dying to get some protein to repair my muscles. I don't do Cardio to look pretty and burn fat. I run cause I want to be fast.

    I had pretty good luck this morning with a single scoop whey and 8 oz water. I think I'm just feeling bloated because of the full 16 oz of milk combine that with another 16 of water and I've got a qt of fluid within an hr of running.
    Fast isn't my game being a senior citizen around here but I do like to look pretty and burn fat...lol
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