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    Localized/Delocalized electrons (Orgo)(Measley reps)

    This is the first topic that has given me trouble so far in Orgo I. Can anybody coherently explain what localized and delocalized electrons are? My textbook is sucking at it right now and even the sites I've looked at on the internet aren't doing too well. The dots aren't connecting (lol somewhat of a pun intended).

    Gonna make it through Orgo alive even if it almost kills me and I end up in the hospital because I have to train like Goku to finish it crew
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    Cmon I know one of you neckbeards out there is an Orgo savant
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    I swear on me mum m8s I will cross 3000 miles with my dink dragging the whole way through glass infected with HIV just to get a chance to hear what a delocalized electron is through a walkie talkie
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    If i recall correctly, delocalized lone pairs participate in resonance while localized do not?
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    Originally Posted by FiloBrah View Post
    If i recall correctly, delocalized lone pairs participate in resonance while localized do not?
    Do you remember if you actually have to draw out all of the resonance structures to determine this? Because in my book it's not and it's literally just saying "this is delocalized, that is localized" etc. without explaining the dam concept or how to get to that point.
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    Originally Posted by Mav3535 View Post
    Do you remember if you actually have to draw out all of the resonance structures to determine this? Because in my book it's not and it's literally just saying "this is delocalized, that is localized" etc. without explaining the dam concept or how to get to that point.
    Nope, you can just look at the compound. You can see which lone pairs are affected/not affected
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    Originally Posted by FiloBrah View Post
    Nope, you can just look at the compound. You can see which lone pairs are affected/not affected
    Hmm ok. Expand on that a bit please, I feel like I'm not seeing something. I think it'll click on me though...
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    Localized: doesn't participate in resonance
    Delocalized: participates in resonance

    If you can push that lone pair around in making resonance structures it is delocalized. If you don't use that lone pair in resonance structure, like pushing/moving the lone pair, its localized b/c it doesn't move
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    Originally Posted by FiloBrah View Post
    Localized: doesn't participate in resonance
    Delocalized: participates in resonance

    If you can push that lone pair around in making resonance structures it is delocalized. If you don't use that lone pair in resonance structure, like pushing/moving the lone pair, its localized b/c it doesn't move
    Ok that's a bit clearer now. But how do you get that from just looking at it, ie. in its normal non-resonated structure. Because from what you describe here it sounds like you'd have to draw it to tell.
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