Vid of police officer shooting guy armed with knife just released (VID) (Bodycam)

[memcop]

A real American hero. Fuk the corrupt ass pigs!

Yup

[memcop]

You're a pig *******! Hope someone does a solid by the book shooting on your ******* ass

oh you

[hlimw18]

complete fuking potato

can't even argue with this it's so illogical

I wasn't being completely serious. But please explain how shooting him in the leg with birdshot wouldn't be a better idea than 5 shots to the chest.

[lazi]

oh you

how often do cops quit if they've shot and killed someone?
as in can't take the PTSD. only cop i knew killed a kid, had to retire.

[memcop]

I wasn't being completely serious. But please explain how shooting him in the leg with birdshot wouldn't be a better idea than 5 shots to the chest.

wat lol

how does birdshot disable anything besides birds? Its a blood pressure issue, not a scaring them or maiming then until they comply issue.

[r3pme]

I wasn't being completely serious. But please explain how shooting him in the leg with birdshot wouldn't be a better idea than 5 shots to the chest.

first of all the officer only had a taser and handgun

[dwill094]

Feel like should hAve shot once or twice.. Am I wrong (srs)?

this. he fkin unloaded on the guy

[memcop]

how often do cops quit if they've shot and killed someone?
as in can't take the PTSD. only cop i knew killed a kid, had to retire.

I know guys that have killed several people and have been just fine over the course of his career, I also know a guy that lost everything and killed himself, it up to the individual but in general as long as they stay on top of their mental health then chances are good.

[memcop]

this. he fkin unloaded on the guy

Well yeah thats the point shoot until stopped, all shots were while standing, in all honesty he could have gotten off several more.

[ceizer1985]

When a cop is pointing a gun towards you, it's time to listen to him and obey his orders 100%. Not much else to say here.

[lazi]

I know guys that have killed several people and have been just fine over the course of his career, I also know a guy that lost everything and killed himself, it up to the individual but in general as long as they stay on top of their mental health then chances are good.

in that case never tell any of them about the misc

[Market_Pantry]

Solid by the book shooting. Hope the officer can deal with it.

yep

[MJND]

lol this thread is still going???

[Sakeoe]

I allways lol at these kind of threads. American cops and cop lovers are so delusional. You all believe that your way is the right way. Its impossible to back up, its impossible to not use lethal force, its impossible to fire warnings shots, its impossible to aim for legs, its impossible to not empty your entire clip into someone. All these things are "retarded" and "only work in movies!".

You all just continue circle jerk these "truths" until you people really start to believe them. You are truly believing that there is nothing outside of these "truths". And when people speak against it you just claim that they "don't know since they haven't shot a gun before" or "aren't in the force" or call them "retarded".

But meanwhile, outside of your US fairy tale circle jerk world there is the real world, with other countries, that have different approaches to police work, which frankly told simply work better.

I of-course can only speak for the Dutch police, but there are clear differences in mentality between Dutch police officers and US police officers regarding these "truths". Dutch police officers fire warning shots, Dutch police officers aim for legs almost all the time, Dutch police officers limit their fire to 1 or perhaps 2 shots if they actually have to fire. Dutch police officers attempt to deescalate situations vs US police officers escalating them.

Of-course, words don't say anything so im going to post some examples (get your google translate ready).

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1040/Den-Haag...llie-dat.dhtml
While being moved to a hospital, a prisoner makes a run for it. The cop in charge first fires a warning shot (At this point I guess all the American cops reading this scream in choir "WHAT? THATS IMPOSSIBLE!"). As the prisoner continues to sprint away, the cop then takes a single clean shot (!) and hits the man in his legs (!!!!!). (I can only imagine the duress American cops currently reading this are going through, as their world is falling apart).

http://www.regio15.nl/actueel/lijst-...hollands-spoor
Police officers received a call about a man behaving suspicious, also receiving reports the man is armed. As they approach him, he runs away. As the police officers give chase he turns around and pulls something out of his pocket. Naturally he gets shot, this would have happened in the US aswell. However, that is were the similarities end as rather than blasting him away like a duck in a shooting range only a single shot gets fired (Dear Americans, if while reading this you started having hearth pains and feeling nauseous please do call an ambulance).

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1041/Amsterda...met-bijl.dhtml
This one is actually quit similar to the one in the OP. A clearly confused man is threatening police officers with an axe. As he advances on them, they fire an warning shot. When this does not work and the man starts to charge, they fire a single (!) shot in his leg (!!!!!!) taking him down. (At this point, I can hardly imagine there are any US cops left that haven't fainted yet reading this).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhUmFoyprTU
This video does not contain footage of the actual altercation, but its about the news report written below it. Cops get a called to an house due to an ongoing altercation (family conflict). As they approach the door, a man armed with two knifes charges out (Sounds familiar to the one in the OP eh?) and lunges towards the cop. Again, he gets taken down by a single shot in the leg.

http://www.blikopnieuws.nl/bericht/2...vuurwapen-been
This one is the most interesting of them all, the police get threatened by a man with a revolver (ib4 butgunsareillegal!!!!! retarded arguments, it was a legal one). Rather than blasting him away, they fire warning shots to try and get him to put down his gun. As the man runs away, and refuses to surrender he once again gets shot in the leg. The interesting thing about this one, is that he had a loaded firearm and aimed it at the officers. But they still didn't shoot to kill him.

All by all, I hope you are still conscious while reading this. Naturally, ill get neg trained to oblivion for posting opposing views, but if writing this can change the mind of even one of u US cop brahs, then it was worth it as I may have saved someones life by doing so.

Neg away!

[Ldzp]

anyone arguing that it wasn't a 'by the book' shooting is a moron. how that's even an issue being brought up is ridiculous, if you were in that officers shoes you'd be an idiot not to do the same thing. the issue is that officer obviously wasn't trained to handle that situation in a proper manner, when his girlfriend/whatever said he had intentions of injuring himself with a knife (no one else in house, no other methods of egress except front door), why would you even walk in there? the second you know he is holding a weapon 'by the book' you are already justified to kill him. what the precinct did was basically dispatch an executioner to that house. for the police records that's just standard procedure, that entire system needs an overhaul, more training in different scenarios and planning in situations like that are necessary..

[memcop]

in that case never tell any of them about the misc

I hope I make it

[jaries12]

He shot with the intent to kill him...

[gotspeed22]

I know guys that have killed several people and have been just fine over the course of his career, I also know a guy that lost everything and killed himself, it up to the individual but in general as long as they stay on top of their mental health then chances are good.

incredibly valid point. if one stays on top of their mental health their will be no unfavorable repercussions from poor mental health.

[hlimw18]

wat lol

how does birdshot disable anything besides birds? Its a blood pressure issue, not a scaring them or maiming then until they comply issue.

first of all the officer only had a taser and handgun

I never said the officer would be able to do that in this situation. The officer made the right move. I was just saying that a shotgun blast of birdshot to the leg would have put the guy down.

Riot officers used to use birdshot all the time to stop rioters from coming at them. Even from 20 yards away, it would have a guy put on the ground. Use it from 5 feet away, and there would be no problem, also pretty hard to miss/no chance of doing much damage to anyone else.

[memcop]

anyone arguing that it wasn't a 'by the book' shooting is a moron. how that's even an issue being brought up is ridiculous, if you were in that officers shoes you'd be an idiot not to do the same thing. the issue is that officer obviously wasn't trained to handle that situation in a proper manner, when his girlfriend/whatever said he had intentions of injuring himself with a knife (no one else in house, no other methods of egress except front door), why would you even walk in there? the second you know he is holding a weapon 'by the book' you are already justified to kill him. what the precinct did was basically dispatch an executioner to that house. for the police records that's just standard procedure, that entire system needs an overhaul, more training in different scenarios and planning in situations like that are necessary..

You're right, everyone knows when you have a crash and are able to run away from the scene and make it home it's olly olly oxen free and you made it to base so therefore you are immune to all laws.

[Power_Strike92]

That was one of the coolest things I have ever seen.


Anyone who thinks the cop wasn't justified in shooting him that many times is an idiot.

[pehzan]

5 bullets? rly?

[gary69]

I would've done the same thing.

loling at the taser comments. is the misc really this stupid?

[memcop]

I never said the officer would be able to do that in this situation. The officer made the right move. I was just saying that a shotgun blast of birdshot to the leg would have put the guy down.

Riot officers used to use birdshot all the time to stop rioters from coming at them. Even from 20 yards away, it would have a guy put on the ground. Use it from 5 feet away, and there would be no problem, also pretty hard to miss/no chance of doing much damage to anyone else.

I cannot reason with you, you are beyond the realm of real life and possibility. I don't say that to insult you I really don't, you're on an island of thought, alone.

[lazi]

You're right, everyone knows when you have a crash and are able to run away from the scene and make it home it's olly olly oxen free and you made it to base so therefore you are immune to all laws.

i have a question. if this were my house, and I said the police weren't allowed in, would they be able to go in anyhow?

[romapwr88]

That was one of the coolest things I have ever seen.


Anyone who thinks the cop wasn't justified in shooting him that many times is an idiot.

Anyone who thinks the cop WAS justified is an idiot. Oh look this thread is full of idiots.

[War Machine]

Are cops allowed to do that if the suspect just has a knife? (srs, i don't know)

Come at you with deadly weapon

Answer is yes

[memcop]

i have a question. if this were my house, and I said the police weren't allowed in, would they be able to go in anyhow?

In that situation or if there were other circumstances that permit them there yes we are allowed. It's always best to complain later if you feel there has been a violation.

[hlimw18]

I cannot reason with you, you are beyond the realm of real life and possibility. I don't say that to insult you I really don't, you're on an island of thought, alone.

Okay, please explain how a person wouldn't be down after there knee cap is shattered from a shotgun blast 5 feet away? Pellets literally in your joint making use pretty much impossible. I get that people will still lunge forward after being shot, but you can't really run forward when your knee doesn't work.

[gotspeed22]

I cannot reason with you, you are beyond the realm of real life and possibility. I don't say that to insult you I really don't, you're on an island of thought, alone.

he is speaking like this situation is happening in a vacuum with no other circumstances. if that is indeed the case and then from a health loss / probability of living standpoint then yes, you are correct the birshot/shotgun combo would prove to be better.