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    Originally Posted by PlatonicIdeal View Post
    Imagine what would happen to the major ocean trade routes if the US military just stopped doing its job. Of course, imagination is for people who actually think and thinking doesn't seem to be in your realm of possibilities.
    this is pretty much the only reason for military to exist today.

    always lmao when I hear about USA military budget, what a big fat waste of fcking money.

    lmao @ anyone thinking they are "protecting our freedoms" LOL just LOL
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    ITT: A whole bunch of people who don't understand the difference between the military, and politicians who create policy.

    Cliffs: Stop electing dumbass politicians you don't agree with.
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    Originally Posted by gottaBKT View Post
    religious guy checking in, fully agree with you. nationalism is a disease

    also this. I have absolutely no sense of patriotism or "American Pride"..

    brb other countries aren't as co0lzz as us!!! Such a lame, limiting mindset.
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    Originally Posted by JMcC775 View Post
    You're an idiot. How about you get the **** out of America if you don't appreciate it. Who the **** are you to say people are lying when they say they're serving their country. Just because some actions the military takes isn't the best, a military is still necessary to keep us safe. People that join to serve understand this and are prepared to defend the country if needed.
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    Originally Posted by JMcC775 View Post
    You're an idiot. How about you get the **** out of America if you don't appreciate it. Who the **** are you to say people are lying when they say they're serving their country. Just because some actions the military takes isn't the best, a military is still necessary to keep us safe. People that join to serve understand this and are prepared to defend the country if needed.
    Queue the idiotic redneck from South Park.

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    Do you blame the sword for stabbing an enemy, or do you blame the person holding the sword......don't take your chit out on soldiers mate, look to the government if you want someone to blame.
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    Originally Posted by Leetdragoon View Post
    why not? they're contributing to the ever lasting system, these people are lining up ready to kill others and you're telling me the logical thing would be to respect these people?
    These very same soldiers would protect you if your country were invaded.

    Cry about how antiquated you believe military to be. The fact is that war will never end, therefore countries need soldiers to protect themself in the event that they are attacked.

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    Originally Posted by rnod View Post
    I hate the notion that they are "fighting for my freedom"

    they are fighting for a fuking paycheck... don't pretend you joined for me, you joined for the financial benefits for yourself
    lol I always laugh at other soldiers when they tell me that, our country is Sketchy as Fckkk, Ill be the first admit i joined for the benefits cause I felt the risk was worth it. I can give a rat's @ss about being patriotic and defending the country.... id be a slave a few hundred years back in time haha
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    Originally Posted by IawI View Post
    I guess those people you've met are brainwashed by the stupid ass movies put out by hollywood to make it seem like being in the military is some high honor. Serving my country lmao. That's some bullsh*t if I've ever heard it. I guess you probably think the "war on terror" was necessary.

    I have a lot of friends in the military who say the same thing I do. I've discussed this with them and they actually back up what I say. Anyone who thinks that being in Iraq is somehow protecting our freedoms is a moron. The military isn't used to protect this country, it's used to carry out our corrupt government's political agenda.
    Yeah, I've never understood having our military fight in Iraq, and then everyone telling us we need to thank them for fighting for our "freedom". I have nothing against the troops, but I could never appreciate what was going on in Iraq.
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    Originally Posted by RunAndPunch View Post
    For some reason, I get the feeling that OP wouldn't last five minutes under Chinese water torture.
    For some reason, I get the feeling you wouldn't last five minutes in a debate.

    Originally Posted by Amp30 View Post
    You obviously don't know anything about the military. A lot of people join the military for the benefits, not to kill people. Most of the time in the army or even the marines, you don't even go into combat, at least in these days. But every country needs a military, or else you are weak and you will be attacked. What do you think would happen if we just got rid of our military? everything would be peaceful?

    And btw, I don't agree with our military getting involved in random chit or other countries problems. When you're in the military though, you are under the command of the government and you can't refuse to do what they tell you, or you will face prison time.
    So, what you're saying is that they join the military for selfish reasons - to get benefits - and they don't stand up for what is right because they are actually cowards who fear going to prison if they don't partake in unjustified wars.

    Well, I can't disagree with that.
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    Truth is, we (Americans) live in the best country regardless of the military situation, taxes and other bullchit.

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    Always greatly frustrates me when people try to put soldiers / veterans and slump then with scheming politicians.

    Seeing footage of soldiers coming home from war back during Vietnam having people hate them and treat them like crap makes me rage. These people put their life on the line to protect our nation's interests -- the interests that they are not in control of.

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    Please watch more Fox News and overdramatic military propaganda movies to further your stupidity.
    Ok just keep telling people to stop watching Fox News and not have a real debate. Your other go to is that everyone else but you is stupid. Hmm. Right. You probably support Obamacare and stealing more freedoms from the American people.
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    Originally Posted by EddieKasady View Post
    Yeah, I've never understood having our military fight in Iraq, and then everyone telling us we need to thank them for fighting for our "freedom". I have nothing against the troops, but I could never appreciate what was going on in Iraq.
    Implying Iraq is the only military conflict the USA has been in

    Want to know why you need a military? Look at the American revolution, the First World War and the conflicts leading up to it. The Second World War. The napoleon wars.

    The people guilty for Iraq are war criminal politicians, not soldiers.
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    Originally Posted by rnod View Post
    also this. I have absolutely no sense of patriotism or "American Pride"..

    brb other countries aren't as co0lzz as us!!! Such a lame, limiting mindset.
    My exact view. I wish I could rep you again. Patriotism never made sense to me since you're born in a specific country by accident.
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    I don't agree with US domestic/foreign policy nor do I feel like I'm defending our freedom. I'll be honest, I joined to learn a trade (communications) and to grow as an individual. The thought of being a defender of freedom didn't even cross my mind when I signed that dotted line..
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    forgot bb misc is filled with religious conservatives, sorry for the thread guys!
    Lol what does religion have to do with this?
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    Originally Posted by DMRed View Post
    Always greatly frustrates me when people try to put soldiers / veterans and slump then with scheming politicians.

    Seeing footage of soldiers coming home from war back during Vietnam having people hate them and treat them like crap makes me rage. These people put their life on the line to protect our nation's interests -- the interests that they are not in control of.

    Respect the soldiers and military, but hate the politicians and those with agendas.
    EXACTLY! People dont realize that if everyone just decided to think the way they do and decide NOT to enlist... the government would start the draft again, and then nobody would legally have a choice on whether or not they enlist. People are so blind... smh
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    i respect the british in WW2, what u gonna say now ***got?
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    Originally Posted by Leetdragoon View Post
    I don't get it, it's all about imperialism what are we even "defending". I can't imagine trying to give your life to the government, seems like a very jason genova thing to do
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    Originally Posted by guitarwar241 View Post
    Queue the idiotic redneck from South Park.

    lol, this is EXACTLY what I see in my head every time I hear someone say "WELL, YOU CAN GIT OUT!"

    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    ITT: A whole bunch of people who don't understand the difference between the military, and politicians who create policy.

    Cliffs: Stop electing dumbass politicians you don't agree with.
    ITT, someone who thinks soldiers can't be held responsible for their actions because some guy with more stars and patches than them told them to do it. For as much as you conservatives talk about personal responsibility, you give zero responsibility to a soldier who's following orders that are deemed legal by a bunch of cowards who would never do what they send others to go do.
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    Originally Posted by JMcC775 View Post
    Ok just keep telling people to stop watching Fox News and not have a real debate. Your other go to is that everyone else but you is stupid. Hmm. Right. You probably support Obamacare and stealing more freedoms from the American people.
    Please stop.
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    Originally Posted by IawI View Post
    Please watch more Fox News and overdramatic military propaganda movies to further your stupidity.
    It says a lot when people like you need to argue against points/sources that nobody has used
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    Originally Posted by invrlose123 View Post
    Implying Iraq is the only military conflict the USA has been in

    Want to know why you need a military? Look at the American revolution, the First World War and the conflicts leading up to it. The Second World War. The napoleon wars.

    The people guilty for Iraq are war criminal politicians, not soldiers.
    I'm simply using one example dude.
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    Originally Posted by DerpHunter View Post
    ITT, someone who thinks soldiers can't be held responsible for their actions because some guy with more stars and patches than them told them to do it. For as much as you conservatives talk about personal responsibility, you give zero responsibility to a soldier who's following orders that are deemed legal by a bunch of cowards who would never do what they send others to go do.
    Please go f*ck yourself for claiming the exact opposite position I've held and stated on multiple occasions.

    Keep fighting against your own fiction... people like you prove their ignorance and blind hatred with every post.
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    Originally Posted by iRockAminos View Post
    lol I always laugh at other soldiers when they tell me that, our country is Sketchy as Fckkk, Ill be the first admit i joined for the benefits cause I felt the risk was worth it. I can give a rat's @ss about being patriotic and defending the country.... id be a slave a few hundred years back in time haha

    Props to you for being able to admit to that and not try to cover it up with a story about looking out for everyone else. I respect that
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