The second Jeff Seid? - Is this guy natty? [srs]

[Benkei123]

Was this recorded between his cycles or what

[Milamber]

Seit kurzem ist er >175 bisher war er immer 172-173 was 5'7'' entspricht.
kennst du fakten ?

can you even googe?

175 centimetres =5.74146982 feet (5 feet 8 57⁄64 inches)

that 5.7 means that it is 5" and 0.7 of a foot aka 8" 57/64 of an inch

[KCBadBoy]

Was this recorded between his cycles or what

Legs look like ****, need to find something other than a speedo.

[Ragana]

Not talking about this thread specifically, but this is the typical misc mindset.. "Well if I can't do it then it's impossible!"

...****ing pathetic.

I speak from my physique and those of my friends. It's not hard to determine a natty limit.. and that kid is way beyond it.

[sebackers]

I like to think I have pretty decent genetics and this is as big as I was able to get after 4 years of natty, HARD training..



I look like a complete pussy compared next to this guy so.. yeah, no way in hell he's natty.

he's pumped up and lower bf% then you and is taking myspace angles , I think you could hold your own against him. Esp in the leg department . His genetics might be better as well, but I'd take your insertions over his.

[tomnr100]

correct

Repped for being honest.

[doubleGtromp]

don't ask the misc if anyone with a shredded body is natty. because apparently according to the misc it is physical impossible to become shredded without cell-tech.

so much this, IMO this dude could be natty

[BluMuscle]

Idk how lean I am doe.

You're my height and weigh over 200 LBs. I don't give a f*ck what you say. You ride bicycles, bro.

[Tamarisky]

/thread

[Garfeel]

For some reason he reminds me of bud bundy..

[gunshow101]

I speak from my physique and those of my friends. It's not hard to determine a natty limit.. and that kid is way beyond it.

That's why bodybuilding is such a great "sport" - it is pure individualism. You can't compare two people on what's possible and what's not. Everybody is different in genetics / diet / training / effort.

I know tons of people who juice hard and look like complete **** compared to me.. Does that mean I juice? I'm i a big liar?

[roid_monkey]

of course he's not. the real natty sick physique guys dont achieve it until their 30's

[Flexish]

Seid definitely wins the most aesthetic physique by comparison. This guy doesn't look "bad" but his proportions are a bit...strange and he's bulky (but not in a good way) His biceps look odd.

Kinda wondering the long term effects of doing this stuff so young.

[skullcrusher149]

Cool, another "natty" that's going to get famous on youtube for some reason.

[CHCL]

This guy right here sums up all of my insertions, excluding my biceps which are longer.

German checking in.

[Anabolex43]

He claims he cant even afford a gym membership and had to lend money from a friend. Could have spend all his money on celltech though who knows

[jujukonchalski]

depends on how lean you are

That chart rings so f*cking true, everytime.

I'm 5'9 and i've never been able to exceed around 165 when in single digit.

So many people either fraud about their stats, or fraud about natty.

[omxpunt]

something about his physique looks very off to me regardless. not something i'd strive for

[J1992]

Not impressed. Arms overpower already narrow shoulders and terrible chest inserts.

[Jay89LDN]

He's natty because he said he is natty and he also offered to do blood test

If his ******** fan page also has natty before his name he must be natty

herp derp

[naeDBrah]

no, he is not natural.

[oldstock]

Was this recorded between his cycles or what

From this video, I could easily believe that no anabolics were taken. I wouldn't bet against diuretics and other cutting agents making appearances, though.

[Chasthetics]

Does this mean I am not natty?

It means either that or you're over like 20% bodyfat. So yeah based on your AVI I would bet the former lol.

[Joocykunt]

So many people here talking chit about his chest genetics.. I don't see anything wrong with it lol? I mean he doesn't have 10/10 genetics but they're definately not "bad" or "terrible"
fukin misc standards I swear, brb no zyzz shaped chest: "HORRIBLE GENETICS KILL YOURSELF WHY DO U EVEN LIFT"








yes mad :/

[Ragana]

I can imagine lots of miscers claiming this is **** progress but in the real world 4 years natty progress doesn't get much better than this in terms of gains and i doubt you will be able to gain much more size at all from here. Maybe an extra 5lbs lean max

Brah, no amount of myspace angles would help me look that good. I'm 215lbs in that pic.. to get as lean as this kid, I'd need to drop at least 30-40 and I still wouldn't look as good.

[081034970]

Does this mean I am not natty?

We both know the answer to this question.

depends on how lean you are

This chart is truth.

correct

Would rep if I had greenz.

I like to think I have pretty decent genetics and this is as big as I was able to get after 4 years of natty, HARD training..



I look like a complete pussy compared next to this guy so.. yeah, no way in hell he's natty.

Nah, for a natty you look great for 4 years. Natty = diminishing returns. If you wanted to get into contest shape you'd easily have to drop 20-30lbs. And that's the harsh reality.


Be big.
Be cut.
Be natty.
Pick 2.


Oh, and the Deutsch guy isn't natty. Traps + delts. Also, holding that much mass at that low of bodyfat.

[AOJulian]

I really want to belive. He is arguing so hard that he is natty and he is just innocent 18 years old.. but he is just too big to be natty. no discussion.

[Ethanolbrah]

The worst thing about this ******* is his arrogance. German-speakers may appreciate this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYxIwHaOBQ

Cliffs:
-zyzz was a 5/10 and didn't look that great
-he regards himself to look better
-He doesn't get why zyzz is so influential.

[otakutrevan]

blood test wont meant sheet if he is using shorter ester celluar phones.

[Dakay]

srs this guy is dumb as phuck ..


Der Typ ist zu Blöd einen normalen Satz zu Sprechen, ich verstehe nicht wie irgendjemand seine Videos angucken kann..