Anyone experiencing acne after taking dextrose?

[just.push.it123]

Currently taking dextrose mono post workout and have had a few breakouts. I don't usually get acne, is this the likely cause? it has 45g of sugar.

[cls91]

Why don't you try stopping it and see if the acne clears up?


Is there a specific reason why you decided to take it in the first place?

[just.push.it123]

Why don't you try stopping it and see if the acne clears up?


Is there a specific reason why you decided to take it in the first place?

Just easy calories at a cheap price. I take it post workout there is a belief that it helps at that time but the main reason I take it is eSy calories in a bulking stage

[MrBillson]

Just easy calories at a cheap price. I take it post workout there is a belief that it helps at that time but the main reason I take it is eSy calories in a bulking stage

That belief has no scientific basis.

There are much easier and cheaper ways to get calories.

As for the acne, as stated above; cut it out and see if it improves.

[just.push.it123]

That belief has no scientific basis.

There are much easier and cheaper ways to get calories.

As for the acne, as stated above; cut it out and see if it improves.

What do you mean by no scientific basis. You recover your glycogen stores quicker, therefore if I'm playing sport later that day or just would like to recover quicker in general it could help. I feel mentally better eating larger amounts of food post workout anyway so psychologically I benefit aswell, which is a huge thing.

[MrBillson]

What do you mean by no scientific basis. You recover your glycogen stores quicker, therefore if I'm playing sport later that day or just would like to recover quicker in general it could help. I feel mentally better eating larger amounts of food post workout anyway so psychologically I benefit aswell, which is a huge thing.

You only need to concern yourself with quick glycogen restoration if you are doing multiple bouts of high endurance exercise using the same muscle groups within hours of each other.

The chances are your lifting sessions don't deplete your glycogen stores anyway. Even in the primary muscles you are training.

If you want to eat more PWO then that's fine of course, but there's no need to consume dextrose. Just eat something you like.

Oh and I haven't even touched on the fact that protein also spikes insulin, so you could just have that.

[necon76]

Lol dextrose.

What do you mean by no scientific basis. You recover your glycogen stores quicker, therefore if I'm playing sport later that day or just would like to recover quicker in general it could help. I feel mentally better eating larger amounts of food post workout anyway so psychologically I benefit aswell, which is a huge thing.

Weight training doesn't deplete glycogen to any great extent. (Fuk all really). And if you've eaten carbs beforehand they are still being digested post workout, so a super fast absorbing source like dextrose after training is not advantageous. So ditch it for real food.

[just.push.it123]

Lol dextrose.





Weight training doesn't deplete glycogen to any great extent. (Fuk all really). And if you've eaten carbs beforehand they are still being digested post workout, so a super fast absorbing source like dextrose after training is not advantageous. So ditch it for real food.

Where did you read that glycogen stores don't get depleted significantly? Yeh but dextrose is easy cheap calories

[MrBillson]

Where did you read that glycogen stores don't get depleted significantly? Yeh but dextrose is easy cheap calories

Where did you read that they do?

And I bet full fat dairy products, PB and ice cream are easier and cheaper calories. Not to mention more enjoyable.

[necon76]

Where did you read that glycogen stores don't get depleted significantly? Yeh but dextrose is easy cheap calories

It's pretty much common knowledge these days.


And all carbs are cheap. A kilo of rice is $1.50.

[just.push.it123]

Where did you read that they do?

And I bet full fat dairy products, PB and ice cream are easier and cheaper calories. Not to mention more enjoyable.

I havnt ready anything descent research but nearly everywhere on the internet and my dietition tells me to have fast carns post workout. Even in the post workout basic section in bodybuilding.clm they say to have carbs

[just.push.it123]

It's pretty much common knowledge these days.


And all carbs are cheap. A kilo of rice is $1.50.

You have to cook your rice and you don't exactly put rice with your protein shake....so not as convienient.

[MrBillson]

I havnt ready anything descent research but nearly everywhere on the internet and my dietition tells me to have fast carns post workout. Even in the post workout basic section in bodybuilding.clm they say to have carbs

Yeah it's pretty good for the people selling dextrose if you believe that.

And you've yet to respond to all the other points made ITT such as protein spiking insulin and food from before your workout still being digested after.

[necon76]

You have to cook your rice and you don't exactly put rice with your protein shake....so not as convienient.

Fuk me dead.

[just.push.it123]

Yeah it's pretty good for the people selling dextrose if you believe that.

And you've yet to respond to all the other points made ITT such as protein spiking insulin and food from before your workout still being digested after.

Dietitions don't sell me dextrose. Havnt read anything about that but if you can show me some research Im I'll be more than happy to learn.

[just.push.it123]

Fuk me dead.

Not everyone has 1 hour post workout to eat the meals they would like man.

[necon76]

Not everyone has 1 hour post workout to eat the meals they would like man.

Sigh.

[MrBillson]

Dietitions don't sell me dextrose. Havnt read anything about that but if you can show me some research Im I'll be more than happy to learn.

I'm on my phone so I can't link you to anything at the moment, but if you'd search a little further than muscle and fitness magazine or the main part of this site I'm sure you'll find that I'm right.

And I suggest you ask your dietician to show the research they are working from.

[just.push.it123]

I'm on my phone so I can't link you to anything at the moment, but if you'd search a little further than muscle and fitness magazine or the main part of this site I'm sure you'll find that I'm right.

And I suggest you ask your dietician to show the research they are working from.

I don't read fitness magazines. I try to look at descent research but there is so much stuff out there it's hard to get a clear cut answer.

[MrBillson]

I don't read fitness magazines. I try to look at descent research but there is so much stuff out there it's hard to get a clear cut answer.

Here's a study for you: http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/42 and this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21289204 <---This one is only an abstract, so sorry about that.

And to quote Mr. Aragon:

"The postexercise "anabolic window" is a highly misused & abused concept. Preworkout nutrition all but cancels the urgency, unless you're an endurance athlete with multiple glycogen-depleting events in a single day. Getting down to brass tacks, a relatively recent study (Power et al. 2009) showed that a 45g dose of whey protein isolate takes appx 50 minutes to cause blood AA levels to peak. Resulting insulin levels, which peaked at 40 minutes after ingestion, remained at elevations known to max out the inhibition of muscle protein breakdown (15-30 mU/L) for 120 minutes after ingestion. This dose takes 3 hours for insulin & AA levels to return to baseline from the point of ingestion. The inclusion of carbs to this dose would cause AA & insulin levels to peak higher & stay elevated above baseline even longer.

So much for the anabolic peephole & the urgency to down AAs during your weight training workout; they are already seeping into circulation (& will continue to do so after your training bout is done). Even in the event that a preworkout meal is skipped, the anabolic effect of the postworkout meal is increased as a supercompensatory response (Deldicque et al, 2010). Moving on, another recent study (Staples et al, 2010) found that a substantial dose of carbohydrate (50g maltodextrin) added to 25g whey protein was unable to further increase postexercise net muscle protein balance compared to the protein dose without carbs. Again, this is not to say that adding carbs at this point is counterproductive, but it certainly doesn't support the idea that you must get your lightning-fast postexercise carb orgy for optimal results.

To add to this... Why has the majority of longer-term research failed to show any meaningful differences in nutrient timing relative to the resistance training bout? It's likely because the body is smarter than we give it credit for. Most people don't know that as a result of a single training bout, the receptivity of muscle to protein dosing can persist for at least 24 hours:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21289204

Here's what you're not seeming to grasp: the "windows" for taking advantage of nutrient timing are not little peepholes. They're more like bay windows of a mansion. You're ignoring just how long the anabolic effects are of a typical mixed meal. Depending on the size of a meal, it takes a good 1-2 hours for circulating substrate levels to peak, and it takes a good 3-6 hours (or more) for everythng to drop back down to baseline.

You're also ignoring the fact that the anabolic effects of a meal are maxed out at much lower levels than typical meals drive insulin & amino acids up to. Furthermore, you're also ignoring the body's ability of anabolic (& fat-oxidative) supercompensation when forced to work in the absence of fuels. So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction."

HTH

[respawn]

just.push.it123 no I have not experienced achne and yes I still consume dextrose. eay to consume and cheap.

1kg or rice is cheap around $1.50 or something as mentioned above. 4kg of dextrose is like $4.50 here for me. Dextrose is cheaper. Also consuming 50g of rice needs water, this will make that 50g of rice to around 100g+ of food to eat compared to 50g of dextrose. also 50g of rice will provide about 65 calories, 50g of dextrose will give you 188 calories. dextrose will give you nearly 3x the calories that rice will give you per 50g.

all of what they said about glycogen depletion and weight training is true but. there is no need for dextrose unless you want easy cheap calories. fats also restore glycogen. if your training like a BB then you will be resting your muscles and they will have enough time to restore glycogen over 12 hours easy as Dr Layne Norton said.

as cls91 said try stop taking it to see if it clears up. try eat some more fats instead. fats give double the calories carbs and protein does.