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    Originally Posted by tom11 View Post
    If you are doing 60-75 minutes of high intensity cardio per day, then it's not high intensity cardio I guarantee.
    I don't know how else to describe it. It is 150-175 BPM as far as my heart goes, so about 75-85% of max heartrate
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    I would bulk for a year and forget about abs personally. That's what I'm doing, had a similar physique, was 175 at 6'3. 185 in my avi. I'm 202 now, lost definition but making all kinds of strength gainz. Looking like you lift in a shirt is also nice.
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    Originally Posted by slee558 View Post
    Do a long clean bulk op, not enough lbm right now. Good luck!
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    What are ur lifting stats like?
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    Originally Posted by chiseledmanbeef View Post
    How big is your waist? Measured around the belly button fully relaxed?
    Haven't measured in about 10 lbs. When I was 10 lbs heavier my waist around the belly button was 30.5". Am assuming it is around 30-30.25" at this point. Could be slightly less
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    Originally Posted by MyAvatar View Post
    Been training for 2 years. I had really poor results for the first 20-21 months. I feel really great about the progress I've made in the last 3-4 months, and I really have to attribute that to Greg Plitt's program, so I'd have to disagree on that front.
    so you made an account on bodybuilding.com then didn't lift for 2 years...yeah I'm not believing that. either way you half ass it, and thats why you look the way you look.

    and even besides the whole two year thing, you've been here for 4 years and still think greg plitt runs a solid program for a beginner...dude come one.....at least attempt to try for success.
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    Originally Posted by esheg View Post
    What are ur lifting stats like?
    Lol effing terrible. I haven't really been able to gauge my true lifting ability because Greg Plitt's program is highly based on high rep schemes twice a day, meaning I don't get the chance to just use my brute force to see how strong I am. I am guessing for squats (below parallel), I can hit 12-15 reps at 135 pounds, same thing for bench press.
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    Damn bruh

    I thought I was getting too skinny trying to cut under 160lbs, 5'10" (didn't make it lel) and I already feel pretty small.

    Pls no jeff, don't go so low

    and why are you doing that sh*t Greg Plitt's doing, thought you were smarter than that essaybrah
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    Originally Posted by naich View Post
    so you made an account on bodybuilding.com then didn't lift for 2 years...yeah I'm not believing that. either way you half ass it, and thats why you look the way you look.
    Not denying that. If you read earlier in the thread you'll see that I said that all my training has been sub-par up until 3-4 months ago.
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    id guess ten pounds. I cut down to 153 at 5'10 and boy was i real skinny. I did it to try and pull off the forever lean bulk so hopefully it pays off in the end.
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    Originally Posted by Chango99 View Post
    Damn bruh

    I thought I was getting too skinny trying to cut under 160lbs, 5'10" (didn't make it lel) and I already feel pretty small.

    Pls no jeff, don't go so low

    and why are you doing that sh*t Greg Plitt's doing, thought you were smarter than that essaybrah
    Just read a lot of good reviews from other bb.com users bro. Also, I've seen great progress with it honestly. Sometimes you have to be willing to try something before writing it off, nom sayen?
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    Originally Posted by MyAvatar View Post
    Lol effing terrible. I haven't really been able to gauge my true lifting ability because Greg Plitt's program is highly based on high rep schemes twice a day, meaning I don't get the chance to just use my brute force to see how strong I am. I am guessing for squats (below parallel), I can hit 12-15 reps at 135 pounds, same thing for bench press.
    Lool start bulking end of the month. Got to get them lifts higher
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    Originally Posted by dethcomesrippin View Post
    id guess ten pounds. I cut down to 153 at 5'10 and boy was i real skinny. I did it to try and pull off the forever lean bulk so hopefully it pays off in the end.
    How did you change your training/diet program when you switched from cut to a lean bulk? That is my intention as well. How long have you been lean bulking thus far, how much weight have you gained and are you seeing more lean gains than fat gains?
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    Originally Posted by MyAvatar View Post
    I am endo as fawk doe. lol. Meaning I'll get chunky again before I can get lean, if I decide to put on 'mass' per se.
    I know these feels. Was chunky, got addicted to running. That runners high is something else. Dropped from 230 to 160 pretty quick, and it didn't look pretty. Don't be afraid to put on a little weight brah. I had to constantly remind myself that if I could lose weight that quick once, I could do it again.
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    Originally Posted by esheg View Post
    Lool start bulking end of the month. Got to get them lifts higher
    Lulz that'll probably happen. Feeling weak as phawk cuz. I feel like a 12 yr old can come and just flick me aside. Dat feel doe.
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    Originally Posted by MyAvatar View Post
    Haven't measured in about 10 lbs. When I was 10 lbs heavier my waist around the belly button was 30.5". Am assuming it is around 30-30.25" at this point. Could be slightly less
    I bet you'd be ripped at 140 - 143 assuming all weight lost is fat. Keep goin' and get that chit out of the way
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    140-145 pounds seems about right.
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    Originally Posted by MyAvatar View Post
    Lulz that'll probably happen. Feeling weak as phawk cuz. I feel like a 12 yr old can come and just flick me aside. Dat feel doe.
    Ur gonna gain some fat when u bulk..who cares. Just lift hard as u can and eat slightly above maintenance.
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    Originally Posted by Reach4More View Post
    I know these feels. Was chunky, got addicted to running. That runners high is something else. Dropped from 230 to 160 pretty quick, and it didn't look pretty. Don't be afraid to put on a little weight brah. I had to constantly remind myself that if I could lose weight that quick once, I could do it again.
    For sure. I hear you. How did you adjust your training program and diet when making the transition to a lean bulk from a cut?
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    Op you do know that you build abs on a bulk right? They are like any other muscle.......unless they are developed you are not going to see a decent 6 pack no matter what your bf% is.
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    Originally Posted by chiseledmanbeef View Post
    I bet you'd be ripped at 140 - 143 assuming all weight lost is fat. Keep goin' and get that chit out of the way
    That has basically been my approach. I don't see the point of bulking until I am as lean as I can truly be. Even if it doesn't look pretty per se. I am using a 'six pack' more as a measure of leanness, as opposed to actually looking good at this point.
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    Originally Posted by jeffl1980 View Post
    Op you do know that you build abs on a bulk right? They are like any other muscle.......unless they are developed you are not going to see a decent 6 pack no matter what your bf% is.
    I hear you, but am not cutting that much below maintenance levels, so am hoping for some recomp effects. we shall see.
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    what exactly is your infatuation with having abs as opposed to actually being in good shape and not a skinny dude who weighs as much as a woman?
    Raise ya glass.. Lets toast to when we didn't have.. Hustle + Muscle = success... I did the math...
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    Originally Posted by MyAvatar View Post
    That has basically been my approach. I don't see the point of bulking until I am as lean as I can truly be. Even if it doesn't look pretty per se. I am using a 'six pack' more as a measure of leanness, as opposed to actually looking good at this point.
    Listen u can go both ways right now. Either continue cutting or jump into a bulk. What do u want to do???
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    Originally Posted by Fokized View Post
    what exactly is your infatuation with having abs as opposed to actually being in good shape and not a skinny dude who weighs as much as a woman?
    Just using abs as a measure of leanness brah as far as reaching a bottom line goes, before starting a lean bulk. Ultimate goal is aesthetics, but am okay not being aesthetic or "looking like i lift" during the long process.
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    Thread like this make no sense to me.

    Bro I'm 5'10 200lbs and have abs
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    For sure. I hear you. How did you adjust your training program and diet when making the transition to a lean bulk from a cut?

    Cut cardio at least in half unless you can stuff your face to make up for it.

    I added Milk and a lot of brown rice into my diet and added a whole other meal. It's all trial and error. Something else I did that pushed me past 200 was start eating red meat. Just watch the scale closely, if you put on more then 1lb a week, or even .5lb a week depending on how lean of a bulk you want, then eat less.

    Also you want to do 6-8 reps for compounds, and no more then 12 for accessory. Past that you start to go for endurance more so then gains.
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    Listen u can go both ways right now. Either continue cutting or jump into a bulk. What do u want to do???
    Keep cutting till I hit what I feel is my max leanness (sensible levels), and then leanbulk4lyfe
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    I'm not familiar with that program but you have to train your abs as much as any other muscles. Of course when you're doing heavy deads, squats, etc you're training your core as well, but abs can use some progressive overload, so try something like the pallof press or weighted crunches.
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    Originally Posted by Reach4More View Post
    Cut cardio at least in half unless you can stuff your face to make up for it.

    I added Milk and a lot of brown rice into my diet and added a whole other meal. It's all trial and error. Something else I did that pushed me past 200 was start eating red meat. Just watch the scale closely, if you put on more then 1lb a week, or even .5lb a week depending on how lean of a bulk you want, then eat less.

    Also you want to do 6-8 reps for compounds, and no more then 12 for accessory. Past that you start to go for endurance more so then gains.
    Awesome. That sounds like a pretty simple change. I'll probably just load up on potatoes once its time to lean bulk, just because I could use the actual energy for lifting and what not.
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