80% genetics 10% diet 10% training

[EastSideBoxer]

In gaining muscle strength and aesthetics

U r either born with good genes that can do the above or ur not no amount of training a certain way or eating a certain way will change your genetics.

I have a friend who watches diet trains hard but still holds a ton of fat even after a year of cutting

[asdf89]

*not gonna make it crew*

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[ironpump22]

Genetics is an excuse for those unwilling or unable to test their limits in my opinion. Everyone can make something great, the human body is remarkable.

Tired of ppl blaming things on genetics all the time. More like 80% nutrition 20% proper training and 100% dedication

[LegosInMyEgos]

do you know what epigenetics are OP?

Oh wait... this is one of those "Its hard so I will just make an excuse as to why I can't do it" threads.

nvm, carry on.

[BurnOneTwice]

Genetics is an excuse for those unwilling or unable to test their limits in my opinion. Everyone can make something great, the human body is remarkable.

Tired of ppl blaming things on genetics all the time. More like 80% nutrition 20% proper training and 100% dedication

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[EastSideBoxer]

Genetics is an excuse for those unwilling or unable to test their limits in my opinion. Everyone can make something great, the human body is remarkable.

Tired of ppl blaming things on genetics all the time. More like 80% nutrition 20% proper training and 100% dedication

Do u even math o wait ur on cell tech

Like I said my friend lifting for 5 years natty but his shtty genes won't allow him to lose fat that he holds and he still looks dyel he's the most dedicated person I know wood post pics but don't wanna ruin privacy

He watches diet and meals extremely hard too

[YolkedBrah]

Genetics is an excuse for those unwilling or unable to test their limits in my opinion. Everyone can make something great, the human body is remarkable.

Tired of ppl blaming things on genetics all the time. More like 80% nutrition 20% proper training and 100% dedication

This!

[lightsarefallin]

Genetics are a huge factor in bodybuilding...but everyone is capable of creating something significant if they dedicate 100%.

[TheJediBrah]

Genetics is an excuse for those unwilling or unable to test their limits in my opinion. Everyone can make something great, the human body is remarkable.

Tired of ppl blaming things on genetics all the time. More like 80% nutrition 20% proper training and 100% dedication

So sick of people always saying this. Genetics determines a lot. It's not always an excuse, it's a fact.

[Comboking]

brb people with good genetics come itt and say its not because of their genetics but their lifting routines and diets

lol.

[Bruthar]

Genetics does play a role in it, I can't remember where but I've seen videos and read articles that explain that each individual person has their own potential limit. In other words, not all of us can acquire the same body Arnold Schwarzenegger has, but we do have enough control to make a significant difference in our bodies.

I'd say it's 20% Genetics, 50% Diet, 30% training.

[AncientYouth]

I have a friend who watches diet trains hard but still holds a ton of fat even after a year of cutting

That's because he is very very special and his body defies science....or he was incredibly fat to begin with ....or he still over eats

[asdf89]

So sick of people always saying this. Genetics determines a lot. It's not always an excuse, it's a fact.

being 5'5 i cant put on as much muscle as someone 6 ft plus but i can still build an awesome physique for my frame and thats all that matters

[LegosInMyEgos]

real talk: a healthy person with ****ty insertions will NEVER look super pretty on stage

HOWEVER, a person with ****ty genetics can still attain roughly the same amount of muscle at a given body fat as someone with better predisposition through epigenetic changes, although it will take somewhat longer.

[Cfitz717]

lol. lame excuse is lame

[EastSideBoxer]

That's because he is very very special and his body defies science....or he was incredibly fat to begin with ....or he still over eats

He's really fkin dedicated man he cut for a fkin year and even he was mind blown got his thyroid levels checked and Wer normal

He's been lifting for 5 fkin years and if u say him ud be dyel he's round and is more fatty

He has good strength tho but his goals are aesthetics

[drFEEL]

In gaining muscle strength and aesthetics

U r either born with good genes that can do the above or ur not no amount of training a certain way or eating a certain way will change your genetics.

I have a friend who watches diet trains hard but still holds a ton of fat even after a year of cutting

whats the other 10%?

[asdf89]

whats the other 10%?

in b4 you delete this

[AncientYouth]

He's really fkin dedicated man he cut for a fkin year and even he was mind blown got his thyroid levels checked and Wer normal

He's been lifting for 5 fkin years and if u say him ud be dyel he's round and is more fatty

He has good strength tho but his goals are aesthetics

He is not on a deficit....end of...dedicated to the biscuit tin in reality

[EastSideBoxer]

He is not on a deficit....end of...dedicated to the biscuit tin in reality

Oh yeah u know him? Known him for more than 5 years he fkin knows what he's doing and dedicated

I'm just saying his genetics are the reason he can't reach his goals and no matter how hard he changes his diet or training he will never reach his goal

[ironpump22]

Do u even math o wait ur on cell tech

Like I said my friend lifting for 5 years natty but his shtty genes won't allow him to lose fat that he holds and he still looks dyel he's the most dedicated person I know wood post pics but don't wanna ruin privacy

He watches diet and meals extremely hard too

My "genetics" are not good, look at any of the before pictures of me and not once in a million years would I have "good genetics". 6 years later I have made decent progress with lots of work left to do. The problem is people set standards for themselves in comparison to someone else's body. The focus is on becoming the best version of yourself that you can be. While your friend certainly sounds as though he's worked his butt off (which I don 't doubt), I would guess that what his goal is would be the issue. If you want to do bodybuilding/aesthetics or whatever the heck you want to call it, you will probably need to invest in training and work with someone who can train you for that specific goal. Otherwise I can guarantee that it's not going to be effective or that it will take much much longer to get there. But that's just my opinion of course

[recedingjaw]

Yeah genetics is a very huge factor; 80% is spot on OP. So tired of people with good genetics saying it was just their diet and routine lmao. Ive seen people dedicated as fuk but continue to look like chit regardless of how good they diet etc.

Also bone structure. For example you can literally be doomed to a perma hourglass figure with genetically wide hip bones. Genetics is literally everything. Such is life.

[thetrebel]

brb legs grow with 3 sets a week

brb cant train chest to much because grows to fast

brb biceps wont grow super sets, dc, hit, gvt, nada feels bad mayne

genetics play a huge role witch some people dont understand







dat being said dont be a lazy/sad kunt

[TheApathy]

Genetics is an excuse for those unwilling or unable to test their limits in my opinion. Everyone can make something great, the human body is remarkable.

Tired of ppl blaming things on genetics all the time. More like 80% nutrition 20% proper training and 100% dedication

50% training
40% nutrition
10% genetics

[EastSideBoxer]

brb legs grow with 3 sets a week

brb cant train chest to much because grows to fast

brb biceps wont grow super sets, dc, hit, gvt, nada feels bad mayne

genetics play a huge role witch some people dont understand







dat being said dont be a lazy/sad kunt

Bad tricep genes good bi delts Lats and chest genes checking in

[CONJbrah]

15% concentrated power of will

[andishehhank]

weight training is one of the hardest things you can take up if you get serious. everyone has that genetics excuse these days

[SuperDick1234]

Bull****

[SiZzLaX]

I though genetics for the most part is the shape of the muscle .. insertions etc. If your friend cant get lean hes doing something really wrong. everyone should be able to gain size and get lean with proper diet.

[recedingjaw]

My "genetics" are not good, look at any of the before pictures of me and not once in a million years would I have "good genetics". 6 years later I have made decent progress with lots of work left to do. The problem is people set standards for themselves in comparison to someone else's body. The focus is on becoming the best version of yourself that you can be. While your friend certainly sounds as though he's worked his butt off (which I don 't doubt), I would guess that what his goal is would be the issue. If you want to do bodybuilding/aesthetics or whatever the heck you want to call it, you will probably need to invest in training and work with someone who can train you for that specific goal. Otherwise I can guarantee that it's not going to be effective or that it will take much much longer to get there. But that's just my opinion of course

Lol save it bro. No disrespect but based on your before photos you have average genetics, which OP's buddy would probably kill for.

Normal hip bones and waist ratios (no wide hips etc). Yeah your genes arent great but they are pretty average which is all you need to look good. Some people are totally fuked like those with wide hips etc